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FSogol

(45,578 posts)
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 01:13 PM Feb 2022

Former suburban Minneapolis officer Kim Potter sentenced to 2 years in prison for killing Daunte Wri

Source: Washington Post

The former suburban Minneapolis police officer convicted of manslaughter for fatally shooting Daunte Wright during a traffic stop last April was sentenced to two years in prison in a Hennepin County courtroom Friday.

A Hennepin County jury in late December found Kim Potter guilty of first- and second-degree manslaughter for shooting Wright, a 20-year-old unarmed Black man in the Minneapolis suburb of Brooklyn Center last April. Potter claimed she mistook her gun for a Taser when she fired on Wright to stop him from driving away.

“This case is highly unusual,” Judge Regina M. Chu said Friday, and called it “one of the saddest cases I’ve had in my 20 years on the bench.”

Ultimately, Chu said Potter made a “tragic mistake ... and ended up killing a young man.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/02/18/kim-potter-sentence/

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Former suburban Minneapolis officer Kim Potter sentenced to 2 years in prison for killing Daunte Wri (Original Post) FSogol Feb 2022 OP
Two years? That's it? AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #1
16 months and probation Beachnutt Feb 2022 #3
Justice for police commiting crimes. . .no wonder faith in the Justice System is at an all time low AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #4
They claim she must do 16 months,bet she doesn't Bengus81 Feb 2022 #42
Yep...subtract another 58 days for time served Bengus81 Feb 2022 #45
my reaction also vlyons Feb 2022 #8
+1 2naSalit Feb 2022 #10
White cop kills black man left-of-center2012 Feb 2022 #2
White cop murders black man in Minnesota AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #5
sentence reflects the jurors harumph Feb 2022 #6
If I mistake my gas pedal for my brake pedal Beachnutt Feb 2022 #9
The video was her best defense in this case. Usually its the best prosecutor oldsoftie Feb 2022 #13
I'm left-handed AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #18
I'm right handed. So you're opposite. You still get the point oldsoftie Feb 2022 #20
Yep. To me this is either, at beast, gross incompetence, or, at worse, murder. AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #27
She moved a piece of paper from her right hand to her left hand before the draw Calista241 Feb 2022 #36
Isn't the taser a bright yellow color or something other? How the HELL did she not see that? Bengus81 Feb 2022 #43
And it did not hurt to have a female judge. Sneederbunk Feb 2022 #14
Are they changing anything to prevent more "tragic mistakes"? IronLionZion Feb 2022 #7
No zipplewrath Feb 2022 #22
Cops are generally trained on what they call the ATM (Ask, Tell, Make) System. Jedi Guy Feb 2022 #26
De-escelation zipplewrath Feb 2022 #31
Not entirely accurate. Jedi Guy Feb 2022 #33
And that's the problem zipplewrath Feb 2022 #47
It might change for misdemeanor warrants, I suppose. Jedi Guy Feb 2022 #48
Time served plus 16 months? That's what Black lives taken by white cops are going for now? brush Feb 2022 #11
When its an accident, you get a lesser sentence. Intent carries more weight. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #15
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've heard all that. Time served and 16 months is not a lesser... brush Feb 2022 #23
More cop privilege than white. But ok. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #30
It's a white cop killing a Black man. Wash, rinse, repeat. Call it cop privilege if you want... brush Feb 2022 #38
Black cops kill at about the same rate as white ones. And get away with it. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #40
With all due respect OldBaldy1701E Feb 2022 #44
In this case musclecar6 Feb 2022 #12
Say someone just above the legal drinking limit gets into a single car accident and kills AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2022 #32
Unbelievable marieo1 Feb 2022 #17
The Wright family must be devastated. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2022 #19
I just can't Lotusflower70 Feb 2022 #21
A lot of considerations are taken into account during sentencing. Jedi Guy Feb 2022 #24
I have no sympathy for her...the judge didn't give a damn about the victim and is just oozing Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #50
For those that do not find this fair, and those that do, watch the judges verdict: mysteryowl Feb 2022 #25
America's justice system in not colorblind - conviction & sentencing is along racial lines iluvtennis Feb 2022 #28
Truth. FailureToCommunicate Feb 2022 #34
If you think those two cases are the same, you're sadly mistaken. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #41
Quelle surprise. AngryOldDem Feb 2022 #29
Do Black Lives really Matter? walkingman Feb 2022 #35
Watching that teary eyed judge ask for compassion for the murderer was unbelievable. SharonClark Feb 2022 #37
Watched the trial and the judge was excellent and unbiased throughout. Guess iluvtennis Feb 2022 #39
I think the judge should be impeached. It was a horrible decision. She acted liked this murderous Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #46
+++ agree. n/t iluvtennis Feb 2022 #49
I am appalled. The feds should charge her...she has it coming. Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #51

AZLD4Candidate

(5,837 posts)
1. Two years? That's it?
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 01:16 PM
Feb 2022

Last edited Fri Feb 18, 2022, 02:14 PM - Edit history (1)

Give me a break!

I'm expecting all the badge defenders to come out and say "justice was served."

On edit: They already have.

Bengus81

(6,936 posts)
42. They claim she must do 16 months,bet she doesn't
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:45 AM
Feb 2022

Max sentence could have been 15 years,normal for no criminal history is 6-8 years. She'll be out by this time next year.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,837 posts)
5. White cop murders black man in Minnesota
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 01:25 PM
Feb 2022

Gets 22 years maximum.

Black person murders white anything. . .25-Life.

No, the justice system works!



A classmate in high school killed someone in his car driving drunk, showed extreme remorse, and the mother of the victim begged the court to show mercy by forgiving the guy. . .sentenced to seven years in prison.

harumph

(1,918 posts)
6. sentence reflects the jurors
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 01:37 PM
Feb 2022

opinion that it wasn't intentional. From following the case, I don't think
she intended to shoot him either (at least with her firearm). That said,
it was absolutely negligent and I'm not sure what prison time would
be appropriate for the crime. 5 years? 10 years? 20 years?

Beachnutt

(7,356 posts)
9. If I mistake my gas pedal for my brake pedal
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 01:43 PM
Feb 2022

in my car and I run over a cop will I only get 16 months in jail for my mistake ?

oldsoftie

(12,651 posts)
13. The video was her best defense in this case. Usually its the best prosecutor
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 02:08 PM
Feb 2022

But she totally lost it when as soon as she shot.
Still don't know why her gun and taser would be on the same side. I'd never draw a gun with my left hand. Thats where the taser should be then.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
36. She moved a piece of paper from her right hand to her left hand before the draw
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 08:38 PM
Feb 2022

Which probably affected her thinking she’s drawn her taser. Not an excuse, but maybe an explanation.

Bengus81

(6,936 posts)
43. Isn't the taser a bright yellow color or something other? How the HELL did she not see that?
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:48 AM
Feb 2022

Answer is she would have noticed the color difference.

IronLionZion

(45,614 posts)
7. Are they changing anything to prevent more "tragic mistakes"?
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 01:40 PM
Feb 2022

Or is it OK to shoot an unarmed person if you just yell "taser taser taser" first.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
22. No
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 02:35 PM
Feb 2022

This problem extends from the fundamental training and tactics. Police believe that they must control every situation. There was no real reason to use force here at all. He was resisting, so their tactic is to increase force. They escalated the situation in an attempt to gain control. To the police, refusing their direction is by definition "dangerous". If they aren't in total control, then the situation, by their definition, is dangerous. They assert that the citizen escalated the situation, when in fact they did by attempting to assert more and more control. They use more and more dangerous tactics, without any real justification, merely to establish control.

Jedi Guy

(3,278 posts)
26. Cops are generally trained on what they call the ATM (Ask, Tell, Make) System.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 03:07 PM
Feb 2022

First, they'll ask someone to do what they want them to do. If the person fails to comply, then they'll move on to telling them to do it. If that doesn't work, then they'll make the person comply and will use force to do so if necessary. Establishing and maintaining control of a situation/suspect is a very large part of their training.

While "danger" is a consideration, it's mainly just part of their job. They're law enforcement, so the force is built in. They're going to deal with people who don't want to be pulled over, don't want to be searched, don't want to be detained or arrested, don't want to go to jail. In those cases, they use force. Sometimes that involves pain compliance (e.g., bending a wrist backwards so that it hurts to get someone to stop struggling), throwing punches, and/or using a baton, Taser, or sidearm.

What's the alternative? Asking nicely and just letting people walk/drive away if they don't feel like obeying the law? Reasonable people can disagree on whether and what degree of force are appropriate, but it's an inescapable fact of law enforcement that force will have to be used sometimes.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
31. De-escelation
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 05:20 PM
Feb 2022

The point is to not escalate the situation just to get or maintain control. In this case, there was no reason to attempt to force him out of the vehicle. The worst case result would have been him leaving and picking him up later. They knew where he lived, they knew the car he was driving, and the warrants had been out for a while and there was no sense of urgency in arresting him. There was no justification for using deadly force (and yes, a taser is still dangerous). There was nothing here to justify breaking bones. Force is used when the suspect escalates. The only escalating done by the suspect here is that he tried to leave.

Look, I understand their training, and I'm not suggesting they didn't follow it. She really screwed up. It's not even really clear to me how she could have done it. It suggested there was some confusion in her mind about which weapon to use. But what is clear is that she was thinking more about which weapon to use, that whether to use one at all.

Jedi Guy

(3,278 posts)
33. Not entirely accurate.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 06:18 PM
Feb 2022

The car he was driving was not his, it was registered to his brother. He had no license or proof of insurance card on him, so they may not have known where he lived. That'd depend entirely on whether any information in public records was accurate and up-to-date. He had a warrant, which is why they wanted him out of the vehicle. They didn't force him out, either. One of the officers opened the door, and Wright stepped out.

More to the point, he was being cuffed when he began to resist (escalation), then broke free and tried to get back into the car (escalation and attempt to flee). How do you suppose things might have played out differently had he not done that? You're presenting this as if the cops immediately went to physical force and escalated the situation, which isn't accurate.

Simply letting someone with a warrant drive away is just not how cops do things, and I doubt it will ever be how cops do things. If you have a warrant and cops make contact with you and find out, they're going to arrest you. That's how it works.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
47. And that's the problem
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 02:55 PM
Feb 2022
Simply letting someone with a warrant drive away is just not how cops do things, and I doubt it will ever be how cops do things. If you have a warrant and cops make contact with you and find out, they're going to arrest you. That's how it works.


That's how it works, and that's how Dante got shot for no good reason.

It can be different, and in some countries, it is.

Jedi Guy

(3,278 posts)
48. It might change for misdemeanor warrants, I suppose.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 03:12 PM
Feb 2022

Very doubtful it will ever change for felony warrants. In any case, resisting arrest doesn't tend to end well. Best case, you get away but pick up extra charges. Worst case, you go to the morgue. This is why fighting the charge in court is wiser than fighting the cops in the street.

brush

(53,962 posts)
11. Time served plus 16 months? That's what Black lives taken by white cops are going for now?
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 01:45 PM
Feb 2022

Such white privilege. It's disgraceful.

oldsoftie

(12,651 posts)
15. When its an accident, you get a lesser sentence. Intent carries more weight.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 02:12 PM
Feb 2022

You can't compare her case to ones who shoot intentionally & without justification.
Well, you CAN, its just disingenuous

brush

(53,962 posts)
23. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've heard all that. Time served and 16 months is not a lesser...
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 02:54 PM
Feb 2022

sentence. It's a comparative slap on the wrist. The man is dead and won't be back in 16 months. The sentence should've been longer. She was sentenced for less than the state guidelines.

As I said, its such white privilege.

brush

(53,962 posts)
38. It's a white cop killing a Black man. Wash, rinse, repeat. Call it cop privilege if you want...
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 09:17 PM
Feb 2022

but most of us know better.

oldsoftie

(12,651 posts)
40. Black cops kill at about the same rate as white ones. And get away with it.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:02 AM
Feb 2022

Its an inconvenient truth. Look it up. But the white ones will make national news. Most of the black ones won't. Many cops have a POWER problem more than a RACE problem. They crave the power and control the badge gives them. They get to be the "tough guy".
But some (many times foreign) sources use these cases to divide us. And its been working for years.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,195 posts)
44. With all due respect
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 10:13 AM
Feb 2022

I doubt we need a foreign source to divide us on the issue. Morality, ethics, and reason do that already. This behavior is unacceptable. If that person had been a rich, white dude with 'connections, they would have just told him that he has to turn himself in because of an outstanding warrant, not become the modern equivalent of stormtroopers just to take him into custody. And, sure, they would technically be in trouble for 'not doing their duty', but as to real consequences for the 'transgression'... please.

musclecar6

(1,693 posts)
12. In this case
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 01:49 PM
Feb 2022


From what I’ve seen and heard, it looks like she just fucked up and used the wrong gun intending to taze Duante. A terrible mistake to be sure, with lifelong hurt for his relatives and friends. I can see the logic in the Judge’s sentence. If Potter was a frothing at the mouth right wing nut job, like some of our well known elected members of congress or other high profile positions, then it would be appropriate to throw the book at her. In this case, I think the sentence was probably appropriate.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,837 posts)
16. Say someone just above the legal drinking limit gets into a single car accident and kills
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 02:13 PM
Feb 2022

the passenger in the car.

That person just "fucked up too." Happened to a classmate of mine where he showed so much remorse for it that the victim's mother forgave him and asked the judge to be light on the sentence in an impact statement.

Just sentenced him to seven years.

Your argument falls flat. There are two justice systems: one for the rich, powerful, important, and connected (cops are connected) and one for the rest of us.

As my sig line says: It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You and I are not part of the big club.

Response to musclecar6 (Reply #12)

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
17. Unbelievable
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 02:15 PM
Feb 2022

I can't believe it - this young man's life was only worth 2 years? What is wrong with our justice system? A sad day for this young man's family and for the people that respect law and order. Apparently, this doesn't apply to police officers.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
21. I just can't
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 02:28 PM
Feb 2022

That is absolutely grotesque. She was sentenced less than the state guidelines and she can serve part of her time at home. Miscarriage of justice. My city is going to continue to be trashed. And then there is going to be the Amir Locke case. I am sick and tired of the corruption of the MPD and the lack of accountability.

Jedi Guy

(3,278 posts)
24. A lot of considerations are taken into account during sentencing.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 02:55 PM
Feb 2022

Prior criminal history, intent to cause harm, likelihood of committing future offenses, and remorse, among other things. All of those things were going in Potter's favor in this particular instance, though "remorse" really is impossible to weigh objectively. Some will say she's genuinely remorseful for killing Wright, while others will say she's only remorseful about the impact it's had and will have on her own life. Ultimately, the only person who truly knows whether and why she's remorseful is Potter herself.

All that said, though, two years is an incredibly generous and lenient sentence. Under state law, someone convicted of more than one crime for the same act is sentenced on the more/most serious offense, so Potter was looking at a maximum of 15 years and/or a $30,000 fine. So two years is just way, way on the low side.

I don't think Potter intended to kill Wright and I'm generally a lot more sympathetic to law enforcement than most people here on DU, but even so... two years? I feel like the state's request of seven years was reasonable, and even five would have been somewhat fair to all concerned. But two years just doesn't make a lot of sense.

Demsrule86

(68,753 posts)
50. I have no sympathy for her...the judge didn't give a damn about the victim and is just oozing
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 10:23 PM
Feb 2022

sympathy for the murderer. she killed him and intended to kill him IMHO. The judge is no doubt racist.

mysteryowl

(7,431 posts)
25. For those that do not find this fair, and those that do, watch the judges verdict:
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 03:02 PM
Feb 2022

The judges verdict starts @1:44:20



iluvtennis

(19,897 posts)
28. America's justice system in not colorblind - conviction & sentencing is along racial lines
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 03:40 PM
Feb 2022

Mohamed Noor (black cop) sentenced to 12 1/2 years for 2nd degree manslaughter for killing white woman

Kim Potter (white cop) sentenced to 2 years for 1st degree manslaughter for killing black man (Dante Wright)

America's justice system in not colorblind - conviction & sentencing is along racial lines.

Both shootings happened in Minneapolis.

oldsoftie

(12,651 posts)
41. If you think those two cases are the same, you're sadly mistaken.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:09 AM
Feb 2022

Noor INTENTIONALLY shot that woman; unarmed & unthreatening. SHE was the one who had called them. And he had his body cam off.
To equate the two cases is just to be divisive or willingly ignoring facts to make it racial.
I'm sure you could have found a much better representation somewhere out there

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
29. Quelle surprise.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 03:47 PM
Feb 2022

20-year veteran of the force doesn’t know which side her gun’s on.

Uh-huh. Bullshit.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
37. Watching that teary eyed judge ask for compassion for the murderer was unbelievable.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 09:13 PM
Feb 2022

I understand that sentencing guidelines should have required at least 6 years in prison.
What a horrible decision.

iluvtennis

(19,897 posts)
39. Watched the trial and the judge was excellent and unbiased throughout. Guess
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 11:37 PM
Feb 2022

she held it all goes n for today. In my opinion judges shouldn’t display emotion in court room, but if they do show it for both sides of such a tragic incident. She showed no compassion for Dante Wright and his family.

Demsrule86

(68,753 posts)
46. I think the judge should be impeached. It was a horrible decision. She acted liked this murderous
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 01:03 PM
Feb 2022

the policewoman was the victim and she is a vicious murderer, not the victim...I am disgusted with this verdict.

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