China stresses diplomatic solution to Ukraine crisis

[AntiFascist]

Source: AA News Broadcasting System

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi on Saturday highlighted the urgent need for a diplomatic solution to the Ukraine crisis.

“We hope that a solution can be found through dialogue and consultation that will really guarantee security and stability in Europe,” Wang said in his video speech to the Munich Security Conference.

China’s chief diplomat added the Minsk agreement could be the basis for resolving the crisis diplomatically.

“We believe that now we need to go back to the initial solution of the Minsk agreement because that agreement was reached by all parties related to this issue, which is a binding agreement,” Wang said.

Read more: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/china-stresses-diplomatic-solution-to-ukraine-crisis/2507283

[blue-wave]

1. In translation

The Chinese thought about it and realized that a second Russian invasion of Ukraine would also hurt the Chinese economy. Gee, maybe you should have a heart-to-heart with your buddy Vlad, China.

[BlueIdaho]

4. Who is a better trading partner

Russia - where they wear cardboard suits and ride concrete bicycles, or the West?

[quakerboy]

18. Or more likely

They now actually believe Bidens statement that the US wont be sending in troops, so they have lost their reason to encourage Russia in its aggression.

They wouldnt mind having russia as full dependant. And if they could support it.. that brings them a step closer to breaking the wests control over world finances.

And they really wouldn't mind having the USA, especially in its trump weakened condition, embroiled in a European war, potentially leaving the back door to Taiwan open for Chinese moves.

[PortTack]

2. China isn't going to be the big ally russian thought? Hum ...at least they've got some common sense

[AntiFascist]

5. The problem with Ukraine joining NATO appears to be that it is still too corrupt...

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/558376-biden-ukraine-must-clean-up-corruption-to-be-admitted-to-nato

President Biden ... said Ukraine must root out corruption before it can become a full member of the NATO alliance, something Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has pushed for.

"It depends on whether they meet the criteria. The fact is, they still have to clean up corruption. The fact is, they have to meet other criteria to get into the action plan. And so school’s out on that question. It remains to be seen," Biden said at a press conference at the NATO summit.

[stopdiggin]

6. pretty cozy deal for Putin -(nt)-

[C Moon]

23. DU now needs to keep an eye out for putin sympathizers and bots.

[elleng]

31. Thanks

[Wicked Blue]

7. The Baltic states can and do have NATO troops.

I can't understand why you say they shouldn't.

The people in these nations are not Russians and they are sick of Russian aggression. Centuries of it.

Nations join NATO for protection against Russia. Russia has no right to tell other nations what to do.

[Red Mountain]

8. Why?

NATO isn't an offensive alliance. It is defensive.

Putin shouldn't gain anything from his threats or we'll be back again and again.

[blue-wave]

19. 100% agree

NATO never attacked any country unless it was attacked first. And the first and only time NATO's article 5 was invoked was after 9-11. There is no threat from NATO. Putin is creating a possible catastrophic situation to take the Russian people's attention away from a whole host of serious domestic problems. But if he, for the second time attacks Ukraine, his current problems will look like peanuts compared to what the west must do in response.

The Russian situation to me appears quite pathetic. And it's all due to extremely poor leadership in the Kremlin.

[marie999]

28. Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq

[blue-wave]

30. NATO never approved

action in Vietnam. Some NATO countries sent small contingencies to Vietnam, but NATO overall stayed out of that conflict. As for Afghanistan and Iraq, well, think of 9-11.

[marie999]

32. So, there are rogue nations in NATO?

[blue-wave]

36. You must be kidding!!!!!!

NATO countries have acted on their own militarily without involving NATO. Just because a country is a member of NATO doesn't mean their actions are sanctioned by NATO.

[marie999]

33. So, we fought in Afghanistan for 20 years because of 9-11 an extra 10 years after Bin Laden.

What did Iraq have to do with 9-11? Why are we trying to overthrow the government of Syria?

[blue-wave]

37. I would suggest

finding a library and studying those situations further.

[Yorkist]

11. Is that so ?

And should “the west” bother to ask the Ukrainian people if that particular surrendering of their rights is ok with them first ?

[Polybius]

21. I agree

If it prevents a war, it's worth it. Russia doesn't want NATO in their backyard.

[turbinetree]

9. While this authoritarian state builds islands in the South China Se, while this authoritarian

state sends jets towards Taipei, and coming from a country that basically threw out an agreement between itself and Britain over Hong Kong, and from the same authoritarian state that goes after Muslim and has been pretty quiet in Tibet so far...yeah they stress for diplomatic solution, because if people are not working they get restless....

[dalton99a]

13. +1

[HUAJIAO]

17. What do you mean by "pretty quiet in Tibet, so far?"

[Baitball Blogger]

10. Just wait. China is going to turn into the Susan Collins of the International World.

[Roy Rolling]

12. Ha!

So, just to piss off Joe Biden China will prove him wrong. How? By convincing Russia not to invade Ukraine.

Man, that’s gonna hurt Joe. 😅😅😅

[dalton99a]

14. And China never throws its weight around the neighborhood

[Martin68]

16. A good development. Putin could use this to save face and back off.

[GB_RN]

20. I Read This As Xi Jin-PingPong Saying...

"This can be dealt with if Ukraine hands over the eastern 1/4 of its territory to our good friend Vlad 'The Impaler' Putin. If they do that, then he won't need to invade to take his territory they've been squatting on since...forever." /sarcasm

[roamer65]

22. I smell a rat.

Putin gets all aggressive then China swoops in to “save the day” and look like a world hero.

Sounds like some scheming between Putin and Xi.

[SheltieLover]

29. Absofuckingloutely!

[C Moon]

24. I said it not long ago, China would get involved,

and make it look like they are the adult in the room.

Something stinks. And it's China and Russia.

[EndlessWire]

25. Bulls*t.

"...that will really guarantee security and stability in Europe...”

SOS. All that means is that they think we should give in to Putin's demands and weaken NATO. That's what Putin wants, and it's the point that he has never changed. Well, that can't happen. There WAS stability in Europe--Ukraine--until Putin came along to eff with them.

I watched the NATO meeting regarding the Minsk agreement. The Chinese spokesperson spent some time bitching about the Quad partners (having nothing to do with the Minsk agreement, just a chance to bitch.) Boy, they are REALLY upset about that new group (US, Australia, a couple of others, can't remember) in the Asian area. I guess if it works for Putin, maybe they can try to break that group up, too.

Yet, what did asshole number 1 do with asshole number 2 at the Olympics, a venue for nations to hobnob and be friendly with one another? That's right, they stood up together and declared their manifesto denigrating the West and declaring their intent to dominate other countries. Well, eff them both.

[Buckeyeblue]

26. What about this thought

What if by saying Putin has made up his mind to attack that NATO allies are really trying to goad him into doing something stupid? Maybe they are tired of Putin's shit and would use an act of aggression as an excuse to lay out extreme sanctions that could lead to Putin's regime to crumble. Or to wage a counter attack to eliminate Putin altogether.

China knows the Russia is a mess. And there is no real solution. I also think that Putin has done such a poor job of managing this whole thing that maybe China is rethinking their interest in him and Russia altogether.

If your allie is the town drunk, you may be able to get some short term benefits from him being willing to stir things up. But in the long run, your going to spend most of your time taking care of him. That's the Russian problem.

[Farmer-Rick]

27. Not sure what they mean by invoking the Minsk protocols

The protocols were never fully implemented. And we are right back here where we were before Minsk.

But it does look like China is not going to be a puppet of Putin's. Instead of demanding NATO back down, Wang is talking diplomacy. I think Chinese leaders don't see attacking Ukraine as a good thing for them.

[asiliveandbreathe]

34. Indeed...The Minsk ll - Conundrum..

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/9/what-is-the-minsk-agreement-and-why-is-it-relevant-now

Russia views the deal as obliging Ukraine to grant rebel authorities in Donbas comprehensive autonomy and representation in the central government, effectively giving Moscow the power to veto Kyiv’s foreign policy choices.

Kyiv says it will never allow Russia to have a de facto veto on Ukrainian foreign policy decisions, and many in Ukraine see the fulfilment of Minsk II as a concession to Russian aggression. But there may be room for compromise – all parties have expressed willingness for dialogue

[AntiFascist]

35. Sounds like Macron will be busy the next couple of days...

Some of the demands seem contradictory: it seems that if Donetsk and Luhansk are given a degree of self-government then they should have much less of an ability to veto Kyiv's foreign policy choices, unless those choices are directly affecting those regions' borders with Russia. Who controls those borders now?