Shooting at a Portland Protest Against Police Violence Leaves 1 Dead
Source: New York Times
PORTLAND, Ore. One person was killed and five others were wounded in a shooting on Saturday night during a protest in Portland against killings by police officers.
The Portland Police Bureau said a woman was dead when officers arrived. Two men and three other women were taken to a nearby hospital, the police said. Information on their conditions was not immediately released.
The shooting took place near a park in Portland that has been the staging ground for a number of protests against police killings in recent years. Neighbors said several shots were fired.
I was sitting in the room talking to my wife, and all of a sudden you hear repeated gunshots, said Jeff Pry, who lives in the area. Few other details about the shooting were immediately available.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/us/portland-shooting-protest.html
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)Seizing the property and freezing the bank accounts of people blocking traffic and protesting.
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)is done against those street protesters we dont like. I think the tune would be different if BLM protesters had their checking and cash accounts taken by the government. Just a hey, we dont like your protest so now you must hand over any money you have in the banking system. Its ours now. Thanx, bye!
PSPS
(13,620 posts)I have vivid memories of "BLM protesters" bringing all of those semi and other trucks driven into town, tires then flaffened, then horns honking 24/7, urinating on monuments, attacking unmasked people, trying to set fires in apartment buildings, and all the rest!11! Completely the same thing!!111!!!
You forgot to throw the legendary "antifa" in there too.
MichMan
(11,985 posts)On May 26, 2020, after the death of George Floyd in police custody, protests and riots broke out in Minneapolis, Minnesota and spread over the weeks that followed to another 140 U.S. cities, including Washington, D.C., New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, and Los Angeles. The National Guard was deployed in at least 21 states and Washington, D.C.
The Property Claim Services (PCS) a unit of a Verisk Analytics, designated the civil unrest that took place from May 26 to June 8, 2020 as a multi-state catastrophe event, with over 20 states experiencing significant losses. The 2020 event is the costliest civil unrest in U.S. history with insured losses estimated at over $2 billion by PCS (subject to further evaluation).
This was the first time since 1992 that PCS has compiled significant insured losses for a civil disorder and declared it a catastrophe. PCS had compiled insured losses for the Baltimore, Maryland riots of April 2015 but these riots did not meet PCSs threshold for a catastrophe (insured losses reaching $25 million) when they occurred.
The second costliest U.S. civil disorder occurred from April 29 through May 4, 1992, in Los Angeles, California, after a jury acquitted Los Angeles Police Department officers for using excessive force in the arrest and beating of Rodney King. The event caused $775 million in insured losses, according to PCS, or about $1.4 billion in 2020 dollars. For more information on Civil Disorders, see Facts + Statistics, Civil Disorders.
https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-civil-disorders
PSPS
(13,620 posts)Protesting cop death squads is the exactly the same as blockading residential neighborhoods and international borders, trying to overthrow the government, eliminate democracy, and raising the confederate and nazi flags!!!111!!
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)
now has justification to do it to others depending on who is in charge. Your ideas only work, if the side you agree with remains in power. This applies to Canada too. If Canada ever becomes rightwing, they can now bankrupt anyone protesting that rightwing government.
Do you think we on the left will remain in power here?
PSPS
(13,620 posts)As they say in Canada, C'est exactement pareil!11!!!!1
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)It matters who is in charge and how they see it. This is called longterm thinking over short term satisfaction. For now, Canada is very safe from any sort of rightwing takeover; but we on the other hand are in the midst of a fight for the soul of this country.
I feel like the right might not much care about any sort of false equivalency accusation and just say goose/gander.
Polybius
(15,498 posts)Just curious.
moriah
(8,311 posts)So I'm weird. I was trained as a green hat back in NYC during the 2002-2003 anti-war protests.
I was back home in my own state (and freshly divorced) when the RNC/DNC protests happened.
In NYC, there was a rule about allowing protests without a permit within certain rules. I was late to one (worked nights in Long Island) where the police had finally had enough and did a mass arrest of everyone on the opposite side of the sidewalk and not blocking half of it. Those arrested won their lawsuit, and I spent that day printing out the "You're Out, but Not Done" type booklets for arrestees to know when to appear for their Desk Appearance Tickets, etc, and standing outside 1PP to hand them to those released.
But since they won the lawsuit, clearly our affinity group was trying to play by the rules. No bullhorns, no blocking of pedestrian traffic, not in the street.
The RNC/DNC protests have often seemed to be more what we used to call the "Anarchist Block" people. They didn't care about rules and damages -- and also really didn't have organizers who may have had any type of deep pockets.
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There were MANY peaceful, organized protests during that time. There were also a lot of folks who were angry, pent up because of COVID rules, etc, and went out of their own accord/not part of an organized group to break things.
I would support lawsuits against anyone who was organizing people to come from other states, etc, to protest at specific sights being liable for damages -- at least if the purpose of their organizing was not peaceful protest like many were, but were specifically wanting to burn a targeted town down.
Unfortunately, organizing isn't the same as it was 20 years ago. I had met and taken classes with the core group of people who showed up to the protests I went to (or at least, my affinity group's representatives) but today people organize online and sometimes to cross state lines vs just the people living there being a part of it. Now if people organize a protest and say there should be certain rules, if they make it public or even on a FB group only it's highly likely someone who doesn't need to be protesting will be out there and act like an idiot.
That's another thing... our people, even the ones not acting as legal observers, took classes about jail solidarity, etc -- and taking/offering those classes allowed them to screen out people who seemed either like plants or were wanting to go further than we did insofar as "direct action" -- for our group, that meant sitting with arms interlocked in front of an entrance or something. They knew they'd get arrested. but they also knew to not resist the arrest (and weren't chained or anything, so easy to break up). We weren't into laying in the streets.
electric_blue68
(14,954 posts)I was at the RNC match but during any problems.
I was near some anarchists, made sure I moved away.
Never know what they're going to do, and I didn't want to be possibly be caught up.innot.
JI7
(89,276 posts)They would never be allowed to block things as long as they did in Canada.
but did the cops and government get to have their bank accounts as a punishment for protesting? Just a we get your money! Your accounts are ours now!
What if some dont have a lot of money in their accounts? That might not sit well with those that get to spend their robbery money. Will they go an extra mile and raid some homes and take more property to get a more satisfying dollar amount for protesting?
Hey, we froze your account for protesting but we felt like you had a lot less money than others. So, we are gonna need you to leave your home; we need to sell it and get a more satisfying amount of loot.
JI7
(89,276 posts)by trying to claim black people in the US are treated better
cadoman
(792 posts)All the businesses had BLM on the front. Residents put out BLM flags and kept supporting them at all hours of the day. BLM also worked with residents to setup safe long-running protest zones like CHAZ, where traffic and pedestrians could still safely pass through.
You don't see "Go Truckers" or anything like that on your local Target or Starbucks. There is ZERO support for these white trash.
JI7
(89,276 posts)The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)You say that like it's a bad thing.
It is not.
There is no neutral authority which hands out rewards for either consistency or decency. There is only a contest one side wins and the other loses.
Stand by your people and fuck the enemy, any way it can be done.
"Americans love a winner, and hate a loser!"
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)
after the next couple of elections.
Our police sure do seem to follow that policy.
The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)I expect no quarter, which is why I am not inclined to offer it.
Someone will win, someone will lose.
jalan48
(13,894 posts)protesting out in the streets against the GOP stealing elections.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Blocking it with people is more likely. However that seems to have nothing to do with thus incident.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)When have Portland protests blocked traffic? You can easily drive around a few blocks of people marching down a street.
KPN
(15,662 posts)cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)If a governor had this rule, would they not have?
We had very light protests where I lived. Still roads (including highways) were blocked and Asian owned businesses were burned down.
I am not equating the two. I am saying if you give government a hammer, don't be surprised when they wield it against someone you support as well.
Also the issues in Portland have been going on for well over a year. I think the city really does need to remove all protestors from any side so the citizens can once again enjoy their beautiful city.
KPN
(15,662 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)is the order of the day...now. These mindless pricks called themselves human beings can't pass a test as to whether they are, anywhere, anymore. Trump gave them their marching orders and they haven't stopped their cruelty yet.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)llashram
(6,265 posts)yet maybe, just maybe if there wasn't so much gun violence in America and by the police, things would be different. And with 300-million guns in private hands in Amerika, violence is inevitable. Especially with a lot of those guns in unstable hands on both sides of this issue.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)llashram
(6,265 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)BadGimp
(4,019 posts)#Kenosha again!
maxsolomon
(33,418 posts)More likely a homeowner annoyed by the crowd, gets into a shouting match, gets more angry, gets enraged, gets gun to illustrate his anger. Portland is a powder keg; right & left and in between are all armed.
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)of a group of people on a persons front porch yelling and kicking the house and being very threatening. I said they were lucky the homeowner didnt come out blasting.
tonekat
(1,823 posts)The protest was about someone who got killed in Minneapolis, right?
I imagine the neighbors there have come to pretty much expect this happening every time a POC gets killed somewhere in the U.S..