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AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 09:19 PM Feb 2022

Biden and Putin agree in principle to Ukraine summit- French presidency

Source: Reuters

Feb 21 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden and Russia's Vladimir Putin have agreed in principle to hold a summit on the Ukraine crisis, the office of French President Emmanuel Macron said on Monday.

"The substance will have to be prepared by (U.S.) Secretary Blinken and (Russian Foreign) Minister Lavrov during their meeting on Thursday 24 February," the Elysee palace said.

"It can only be held at the condition that Russia does not invade Ukraine."

Macron will help prepare the contents of the discussions, the statement added.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/biden-putin-accept-principle-summit-ukraine-french-presidency-2022-02-21/

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Biden and Putin agree in principle to Ukraine summit- French presidency (Original Post) AntiFascist Feb 2022 OP
The media will continue to hype a doomsday prospect liberal N proud Feb 2022 #1
I notice a Russian troop dot near the border with Poland and north of Lviv... AntiFascist Feb 2022 #2
I think Poland is part of NATO left-of-center2012 Feb 2022 #16
US has sent additional troops to Poland, just in case... AntiFascist Feb 2022 #17
Harris said today that we could be looking at "a world war". mobeau69 Feb 2022 #3
Thank you orangecrush Feb 2022 #8
As will some people here..... brooklynite Feb 2022 #4
There's a lot of necessary theatre being played. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2022 #6
That would be more convincing and comforting quakerboy Feb 2022 #19
Kamala Harris orangecrush Feb 2022 #9
Post removed Post removed Feb 2022 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2022 #7
Brent Crude $92.87 down $0.70 -0.75% L. Coyote Feb 2022 #10
Here is how it plays out James48 Feb 2022 #11
you forgot to mention GOP agents sabotaging power grids and the like here to help putin. nt yaesu Feb 2022 #15
Weather forecast: James48 Feb 2022 #12
Another Putin head fake. Don't count on it ashredux Feb 2022 #13
Peace in our time, where have I heard that one before. nt yaesu Feb 2022 #14
President Macron will solve it. roamer65 Feb 2022 #18
LOL! Candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize. n/t EndlessWire Feb 2022 #20

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
2. I notice a Russian troop dot near the border with Poland and north of Lviv...
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 09:30 PM
Feb 2022

by hyping the "biggest war since 1945," one wonders if the US could be drawn in via Poland?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
16. I think Poland is part of NATO
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 12:16 AM
Feb 2022

If I am correct then if Poland is attacked then NATO and the US will be involved by treaty.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
17. US has sent additional troops to Poland, just in case...
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 12:40 AM
Feb 2022
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-us-send-3000-additional-troops-poland-officials-say-2022-02-11/

WASHINGTON, Feb 12 (Reuters) - The United States will send 3,000 additional troops to Poland, Poland's Defence Minister said late on Friday, confirming an earlier Reuters report, as Russia held military exercises in Belarus and the Black Sea following the buildup of its forces near Ukraine.

mobeau69

(11,144 posts)
3. Harris said today that we could be looking at "a world war".
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 09:45 PM
Feb 2022

The media reported that. Do you consider that “hype”?

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
6. There's a lot of necessary theatre being played.
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 09:59 PM
Feb 2022

Putin is performing his own version of saber rattling, and he expects that "the west" will be paying very close attention, as is appropriate. But IMO, Putin has way too much to lose by invading, in the short and long term. Even now, he's likely losing millions of dollars a day just maintaining ground forces in late February. Playing soldier games is expensive. If he invades, Russia will be decimated economically, its people will not be happy, and Putin will be looking over his shoulder. Does he want to take these risks? For what? A return to the USSR "Glory Years"?

Nonsense.

Nonsense or batshit crazy, self-destructive results. Take your pick.

BTW, Biden has yet to show his cards. And he's got aces. (What is he NOT saying?)

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
19. That would be more convincing and comforting
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:57 AM
Feb 2022

If there weren't Russian troops currently occupying various portions of Ukraine at this moment (and for the past few years)

orangecrush

(19,555 posts)
9. Kamala Harris
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 10:17 PM
Feb 2022



"We're talking about the potential for war in Europe. I mean, let's really take a moment to understand the significance of what we're talking about," she told reporters in Munich

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James48

(4,436 posts)
11. Here is how it plays out
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 11:10 PM
Feb 2022

Russia moves from Belaruse and from Eastern Ukraine, and sends tanks into action near Kiev.

Thousands of Ukrainians then flow over the borders trying to escape, including a large group that run into Poland as refugees. Pursuing armored vehicles clash with Polish and American patrols along the Polish/Ukrainian border, and then all bets are off. WW III begins.

James48

(4,436 posts)
12. Weather forecast:
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 11:15 PM
Feb 2022

For the Polish/Ukrainian border-

Continued light rain today, temp 48’F.
Low clouds in the area today and tomorrow are poor for Russian air support. Spotty rain continuing until Wednesday afternoon. Dry on Thursday.

Best weather for Russian invasion would be: clouds clearing for Russian air support- Wednesday morning to afternoon. Weather improves by Monday next week.

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