U.S. claims Russia has list of Ukrainians 'to be killed or sent to camps' following a military occup

[brooklynite]

Source: Washington Post

The United States has informed the United Nations it has credible information showing that Moscow is compiling lists of Ukrainians “to be killed or sent to camps following a military occupation,” according to a letter to the U.N.’s human rights chief obtained by The Washington Post on Sunday night.

The letter alleges that Moscow’s post-invasion planning would involve torture, forced disappearances and “widespread human suffering.” It does not describe the nature of the intelligence that undergirds its assessment.

The new warning comes after the Biden administration, amid weeks of speculation about President Vladimir Putin’s intentions in Ukraine, said late last week that the Russian leader had decided to launch an invasion.

“I would like to bring to your attention disturbing information recently obtained by the United States that indicates that human rights violations and abuses in the aftermath of a further invasion are being planned,” said the letter, written by Bathsheba Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. and other international organizations in Geneva.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/02/20/ukraine-russia-human-rights/

[nvme]

1. The sad thing is Putin Unlike Hitler

has NUKES!

[Demsrule86]

23. That is true. Did you know Stalin killed far more people than Hitler...a brutal country. What can

be expected when the 'freedom'(not) begins with executing children.

[Pantagruel]

2. Not news to me

Had to assume Russia would be planning a post-invasion repression. Guess it can't hurt reminding the future freedom fighters they must win or die. No illusions.

[Salviati]

5. If you're suggesting that the Biden administration is lying to get us into a war...

... then I think you're at the wrong website...

[JohnSJ]

14. +++

[blue-wave]

8. So what's your message?

The U.S. is bad and Russia/Putin good? Putin and his puppets are not humanitarians. I'm convinced our intelligence, considering Russia's past on such matters, is accurate.

RIP Secretary Powell

[ramen]

16. Wait, are we pro-Powell now? I don't think Biden is lying us into war,

but Bush and Powell certainly did, and they set the course for the twenty-plus-year nightmare that was to come. It's not that Powell never did anything else, but it is hard for me to live and let live on something of that scope. The resulting skepticism upthread about intelligence claims is unfortunately one of the many costs of what that generation of neocons and the PNAC did. Major difference: the claim of Putin's list is believable and tracks with observable reality, whereas the WMD claims did not.

[blue-wave]

17. Colin Powell passed away

last year due to complications from Covid. I was raised to show respect for the dead and not speak badly about them.


Therefore I will say it again: RIP Secretary Powell

[Skittles]

19. it's someone who thinks they fly under the radar

best to ignore

[Skittles]

18. you are trying way too hard

you know?

it is REPUKES who like to lie their way into a war

[PortTack]

4. I believe Russia already put this out a few days ago. Evil!!

[Roy Rolling]

6. The Information War

Or rather, the misinformation war. Propaganda is a gigantic part of war, and why it’s often called the fog of war. Communication is deliberately shut down.

Preemptively exposing the Putin plan is “the best defense is a good offense” tactic. Never surrendering the media advantage is even more important in 2022 than the leaflets dropped behind the enemy lines to communicate directly with civilians from the Allies during World War 2.

I’m encouraged by the Biden approach. I happened to tune over to a propaganda station where the host was asking the shill guest “what possible reason could Biden have for not slapping sanctions on Russia now to prevent war?” And the guest said “none”.

The answer is: if you punish them before they invade there is no incentive any more not to invade. The moron couldn’t say even one reason. Not one. Not one theoretical obstacle.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

7. Who is surprised by this?

Putin is KGB.

[JohnSJ]

15. I know someone who isn't surprised by this

Alexei Navalny

[yaesu]

9. Well, so much for the "peace in our time" negotiations. nt

[AZLD4Candidate]

10. I said earlier that this smells like a Chamberlain moment and got poo-poo'ed

being told I need to learn the subject I've taught for 18 years.

[NBachers]

20. I know who Neville Chamberlain is. Please explain to me why you say "This smells like a Chamberlain

moment." I don't understand why you make this statement. Are you comparing Joe Biden to Neville Chamberlain?

[AZLD4Candidate]

22. No. I said this has the makings of a "peace for our time" moment like you said

hence, a Neville Chamberlain moment.

[Demsrule86]

24. We will not go to war with Russia. That would be madness.

[Demsrule86]

26. I understand about Chamberlain...but has anyone ever considered that between the Chamberlain

situation and the war...England had time to prepare with our aid...had they immediately gone after Hitler I have no doubt, they would have lost as Poland and France did. Seriously have you never considered this?

As much as we hate Putin and what he does...we can't have a war with them over Ukraine which is not in NATO. I expect the American people would not stand, for it and they would be right. You are talking about two nuclear-armed countries going to war...as I said before that is madness.

And consider all the rogue regimes, including China, who have committed Genocide...are we supposed to police the entire world?

[CousinIT]

11. Oh. Putin wants to Trump Ukraine. n/t

[cstanleytech]

12. Sounds like Putin. nt

[monkeyman1]

13. Vlad just pissed his stooge got pitch'd to the curb & has no more use for him !

[RandySF]

21. History wants to repeat itself.

Will we allow it?

[Demsrule86]

25. I don't honestly see how we stop it if Putin is determined. We can not fight the Russians...that

would be crazy.

[rockfordfile]

27. It wouldn't surprise me. Russia's leader is a right-wing murder

[Danascot]

28. It would be great if our intelligence community

could get hold of the list and make it public.

[Sapient Donkey]

29. There is a video going around of a bunch of T-80 tanks rolling down the highway

less than 5 miles from the Ukraine border. Not sure how accurate the location is, or even if the video is legit (hard to say these days), but it seem like a lot of people who would know think it's accurate. Seeing a column of over 50 tanks like that makes it clear what's about to happen. People are going to die in large numbers and lives are going to be ruined. It's the similar sinking feeling in my gut that I had on the days leading up to our invasion of Iraq. Just needless death and destruction. It's also unfortunate to see so many people are supportive of these actions. People who were not quiet during the lead up to Iraq are now either silent about this or are actively cheering it on. Crazy world.