Russia acquires the right to build military bases in eastern Ukraine

[inanna]

Source: Guardian

00:59

Russia has acquired the right to build military bases in Ukraine’s two breakaway regions under treaties signed by President Vladimir Putin with their separatist leaders, Reuters is reporting.

Putin on Monday officially recognised the two breakaway republics of Donetsk and Luhansk in eastern Ukraine. He later announced he was ordering troops to the region on a “peacekeeping mission”, defying western warnings that such a step would be illegal and kill peace negotiations.

Under the two identical friendship treaties, submitted by Putin for ratification by parliament, Russia has the right to build bases in the separatist regions and they, on paper, can do the same in Russia.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/feb/21/russia-ukraine-news-latest-crisis-putin-biden-summit-kyiv-kiev-russian-invasion-threat-live-updates

[Evolve Dammit]

1. And the response will be............

[Budi]

2. Sold their souls didn't they.

Wow.

[Solly Mack]

3. "acquired" the "right"

Snort.

[Slammer]

33. +1 n/t

[electric_blue68]

34. +100 🙄

[RussBLib]

4. set up puppets, then make deals with them

slick, but not new

I would not want to be in Biden's shoes

[dalton99a]

5. Well, that was quick

[RockRaven]

6. No Russia didn't. They illegitimately claim to have done so in collusion with seditionists.

Those "separatists" don't have the legal authority to sign any such treaty. The rights in question are not theirs to grant.

It's as legitimate as The Guardian writing that I am Emperor of Scotland because I wrote that I was on a McDonald's napkin and Ewan McGregor and Robbie Coltrane signed it too.

[FreepFryer]

9. +1.

[orangecrush]

11. +2

[Ray Bruns]

31. Well, I am the emperor of Scotland the the image of William Wallace

appeared in my Sugar Smacks cereal this morning and said that he supports my claim.

[electric_blue68]

35. +100

[alittlelark]

7. Bullying liars lie and bully. Nuff said.

[The Mouth]

8. Thank god we never did shit like this, ever...

Malcolm X's quote about 'Chickens coming home to roost. And of course, none of our English, French, or German allies have ever participated in a baldfaced landgrab under laughable pretenses.

Putin is grabbing what he can get away with, a chunk of Ukraine; no one is going to go to War over an area that does have a significant number of Russian speakers; I think he has calculated very carefully. Not saying I agree or am not repulsed by the blatant power politics, but he's playing the same game that we played 50-60 years ago and the Brits 100.

[TeamProg]

13. Ahem..

Is your subject line sarcastic? I'm confused by your post.

I do need to say though that we invaded, killed, starved, introduced diseases to natives in America before rounding them up to live on crummy, arid reservation land.


And then there is this:

Mexican-American War (“War of the United States Against Mexico”) war between the United States and Mexico (April 1846–February 1848) stemming from the United States’ annexation of Texas in 1845 and from a dispute over whether Texas ended at the Nueces River (Mexican claim) or the Rio Grande (U.S. claim). The war—in which U.S. forces were consistently victorious—resulted in the United States’ acquisition of more than 500,000 square miles (1,300,000 square km) of Mexican territory extending westward from the Rio Grande to the Pacific Ocean.


So, " Thank god we never did shit like this, ever..." ??



I am absolutely AGAINST what Putin is doing with Ukraine just because he's afraid of NATO. He should've JOIN NATO.

[Lucky Luciano]

14. Clear sarcasm

[The Mouth]

18. Yes

America is the last country on the face of the earth with any standing to criticize other nations for such blatant theft and domination. Yeah, I know it's wrong, it's also what we were doing 75-100 years ago anywhere we could. Malcolm X made his 'Chickens come home to roost' remark in response to the assassination of JFK, the context being that the USA had brutally assassinated any leader of another nation we needed to; this being amongst speculation that the Cubans may have had something to do with it as payback.....

[C Moon]

25. And that makes pooton's actions okay, how? Because that's what's being discussed here.

Not the U.S. Not Great Britain. Not China.

[Moebym]

28. So your point is that we should just stay out of it?

Just let Putin take what he wants because, after all, we've done the same or worse in the past?

Because that's what I took away from your replies.

[The Mouth]

32. Yes,

The whole of Ukraine isn't worth the blood of one soldier.

[electric_blue68]

36. I don't believe in sending troops, but I do believe in continuing to send ancillary aid

The USA has horrific actions, as well as greatness.

Yeah, I do believe we have a right to point things out, while owning our past history as well doing better in the present into the future.

You do realize there are a few full, or partial Ukrainian
Americans (like myself) here on DU.

You needn't put your objections in such crass terms.

[electric_blue68]

39. You don't know a darn thing about me buster...

I marched against Vietnam, and the Iraq War.

Of, course it's a big deal destruction, injuries, and deaths.


As a half 2nd gen Ukrainian American this isn't BS to me.

[PSPS]

26. Whataboutism

[msfiddlestix]

38. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t

[blue-wave]

10. Russia has absolutely no "right"

To build anything on sovereign Ukrainian territory. Period

[turbinetree]

12. Well any aircraft departing to and from a Russians airport to lets say go to Germany should be

denied the means to land and take off.....this is going to get nasty...real quick....

[LiberalFighter]

15. Acquired the right? Bull!

[Beastly Boy]

16. In related news, Putin acquires the right to ride a stolen Ukrainian car from the thief who stole it

[cstanleytech]

17. Unless the Ukrainian government sanctioned it Russian has actually invaded

and taken land from a sovereign country.
Edit: Forgot to add that it is now officially time that the world’s governments institute crushing economic and travel sanctions against Russia.

[OnlinePoker]

20. They already got away with it in Crimea

Seeing how tepid the response was, Vlad is just expanding his grab. Next is the rest of the Ukraine.

[AZLD4Candidate]

19. Acquires the right means the legit government gave him the ability

Traitorous Russian operatives intent on overthrowing Ukrainian sovereignty is not legit.

That's like saying ISIS gave Hamas the right to put training camps in Haifa.

[EndlessWire]

23. Probably were his own operatives, anyway.

I'm going to eat some cake. It's okay, because I gave myself permission.

[orleans]

21. apparently putin wanted to kill peace negotiations

so no more talk?

now what?

[Bayard]

22. It's an invasion

Make no mistake, said several respected experts on MSNBC tonight. I was particularly impressed with Professor Timothy Snyder. He said Putin's claims that Ukraine was always part of Russia is completely untrue. Their history as a country goes back hundreds of years.

No matter how much the separatists in those two areas of Ukraine want to claim they are separate countries, that's just crap. Putin instigated it to give him an excuse for sending troops into Ukraine.

This is going to get ugly for everybody, including us. I feel bad for the many Ukrainian people who will be killed for Putin's ego.

[Javaman]

24. it's almost as if this was planned, almost...nt

[herding cats]

27. Acquires? No. No. No.

No. Assumes, takes advantage of, gets hands on, takes possession of, are all more applications here. "Acquires" is not what took place.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

29. Next up: Xi will "acquire the right" to build military bases in Taiwan.

After all, many people in Taiwan speak Chinese.

[DFW]

30. This could get nasty fast. The breakaway regions are NOT fully under Russian control.

Ukrainian forces control just around a third of each region now "recognized by Russia" to be independent Republics. Of course, the rest of the world still recognizes them to be part of Ukraine. So, to the world outside of Russia and Fox "News," the Ukrainians are controlling a third of their own territory in both breakaway regions. If Putin insists on the fantasy that they are now independent "Republics," and is rushing to provide them with "assistance" from their big neighbor to the east, the stage is set for a war that could expand at any time, and engulf all of NATO. No one wants this, including Putin, and he is gambling that the west will pressure Ukraine to withdraw and accept a fait accompli as the new status quo. If he gets that on a silver platter, he has already stated that he will be adding the rest of Ukraine "back into the fold."

I doubt he will get his wish. If he thinks Biden, Johnson and Macron are the political descendants of Neville Chamberlain, he is flat out wrong. If he thinks sending rockets into the center of London will do the trick, he should consider what happened to the last tyrant that tried that tactic.

For that matter, considering how internal power struggles play out Russian style, I doubt he would be in power a week after the first Russian would hit British soil. I also think he knows it. He is waiting to see what the limit is. My personal view is that the west would be well advised to show him sooner rather than later.

[msfiddlestix]

40. ✔️

completely agree with everything... are you back in Germany as this is all unfolding?

I doubt he will get his wish. If he thinks Biden, Johnson and Macron are the political descendants of Neville Chamberlain, he is flat out wrong. If he thinks sending rockets into the center of London will do the trick, he should consider what happened to the last tyrant that tried that tactic

For that matter, considering how internal power struggles play out Russian style, I doubt he would be in power a week after the first Russian would hit British soil. I also think he knows it. He is waiting to see what the limit is. My personal view is that the west would be well advised to show him sooner rather than later.

Copy that DFW... succinctly put.