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brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 05:12 PM Feb 2022

Top Republican Plans Tax Hikes on 100 Million Americans

Source: Political Wire



Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL), who is heading up the Senate Republican campaign effort this year, released a 31-page glossy GOP agenda because, as he said to Politico, “it’s important to tell people what we’re gonna do.”

...snip...

Scott’s top priorities include completing the border wall and naming it after Donald Trump, declaring that “there are two genders,” ending any reference to ethnicity on government forms and instituting 12-year term limits for members of Congress.

And then there’s this one: “All Americans should pay some income tax to have skin in the game, even if a small amount.”

While that might sound innocuous in theory, in practice it means raising income taxes on more than 100 million, mostly poor Americans.


Read more: https://politicalwire.com/2022/02/22/top-republican-proposes-tax-hikes-for-100-million/
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Top Republican Plans Tax Hikes on 100 Million Americans (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2022 OP
Like Rick ever gave a shit about anyone other than himself packman Feb 2022 #1
So in essence... orwell Feb 2022 #2
In all fairness, poll taxes used to be VERY popular... brooklynite Feb 2022 #3
Of course because... orwell Feb 2022 #5
When the fuck are these assholes going to get Raptured up? Orrex Feb 2022 #4
Jesus doesn't want them either. DemocraticPatriot Feb 2022 #14
LOL! And nobody's ever said he ain't allowed to change his mind. XacerbatedDem Feb 2022 #21
On taxes, he's right. Everyone SHOULD pay SOMETHING into the Federal system. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #6
Erm as someone over 300% below the poverty line mntleo2 Feb 2022 #12
How can you be more than 100% below anything? Thats zero. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #18
Yes mntleo2 Mar 2022 #26
Republicans only want everyone to "pay something" so that their tax cut propoganda DemocraticPatriot Feb 2022 #15
Get rid of the SS income cap. Should've been done years ago oldsoftie Feb 2022 #19
We have been using Social Security taxes to fund the government for decades dsc Mar 2022 #28
Which is NOT what the program was designed for. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #36
that doesn't make them less of taxes dsc Mar 2022 #38
My payment was 6 years in the army. Don't touch my VA disability. marie999 Mar 2022 #33
Your disability shouldn't be taxed. Its not income. Period. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #37
Will multimillionaires like Trump, still be exempt from paying any taxes? gab13by13 Feb 2022 #7
Glad he thinks Old Crank Feb 2022 #8
Hear Hear! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Feb 2022 #22
He lost me with the naming of the border wall. patphil Feb 2022 #9
Ya gotta give it to 'em, if cruelty is the point... czarjak Feb 2022 #10
So they can cut taxes on the uber wealthy. paleotn Feb 2022 #11
Him a top? Brainfodder Feb 2022 #13
Kick Omaha Steve Feb 2022 #16
Term Limits Zambero Feb 2022 #17
It was scrapped because it was ruled unconstitutional. I don't agree, but there it is. oldsoftie Feb 2022 #20
Hear Hear! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Feb 2022 #23
The intent is garnering votes in the short term Zambero Feb 2022 #24
We have them now, they are called elections dsc Mar 2022 #29
Yeah yeah, sure. Incumbents have no advantage at all oldsoftie Mar 2022 #30
voters aren't infants and shouldn't be treated as such dsc Mar 2022 #32
BARELY did it with trump. There's nothing wrong with limiting terms. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #34
There is a massive amount wrong dsc Mar 2022 #35
Like a 1st year Member would be elected Speaker. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #39
Most limits are for at most 12 years dsc Mar 2022 #40
A rare time I agree with Scott Jimbo S Feb 2022 #25
Agree with participation GenThePerservering Mar 2022 #27
Just like citizens in the Eu; everyone pays SOMETHING. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #31
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
1. Like Rick ever gave a shit about anyone other than himself
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 05:20 PM
Feb 2022

Man is a perfect distillation of a Repuke - Self centered, crooked, and willing- hell, even eager- to kill for a dollar.

"After his company defrauded Medicare while he walked away with $300 million, Scott has consistently stood with health care corporations and special interests allies to restrict access to health care for working families"

https://www.accountable.us/news/after-overseeing-biggest-medicare-fraud-in-history-sen-scott-doesnt-want-to-vote-on-health-nominee-that-would-crack-down-on-medicare-fraud/

orwell

(7,769 posts)
2. So in essence...
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 05:24 PM
Feb 2022

...Tax the poor

Put false gods before you

AND

"God" created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

Got it.

Let's see how that works out for y'all...

oldsoftie

(12,489 posts)
6. On taxes, he's right. Everyone SHOULD pay SOMETHING into the Federal system.
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 05:36 PM
Feb 2022

Of course, he ruins that by adding that other bullshit
Doesn't have to be a ton, but every year fewer & fewer pay all the income taxes. Can't be sustained. Yes, people who pay no income taxes likely pay some local and/or state taxes, but that does nothing to fund the US government.
In Europe everyone pays into the system. It should be that way here. Along with a minimum corporate tax.

mntleo2

(2,535 posts)
12. Erm as someone over 300% below the poverty line
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 09:29 PM
Feb 2022

I pay upwards of 18% of my meager income in taxes. Http://www.itep.org/whopays. I live in WA State, and two of the richest men in the world live here. They pay less than 2% of their $billions in taxes. If just one of them paid the 18+% I pay, they would still have over $70+billion to "eke" out their living AND would take care of the deficits we have. And anybody who dares to try to tell the poor they don't pay federal taxes just state taxes, well yes we do as state's revenues go to the feds as well. Rick Scott is a GOP tool who needs to pay what the poor pays or STFU!

oldsoftie

(12,489 posts)
18. How can you be more than 100% below anything? Thats zero.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:03 AM
Feb 2022

State tax revenue doesn't go to the federal government
I never said the rich shouldn't be paying more. They should. And the loopholes like "carried interest" need to be dealt with as well. Basing a company offshore should (somehow) be stopped.
Why can't we have an EU style tax system? It seems to work well for them.

mntleo2

(2,535 posts)
26. Yes
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 03:14 PM
Mar 2022

Statistics like 300% are used all the time by politicians and wonks even though you are correct, there is nothing higher than 100%. But multiply that 100% X those who pay the lowest and that is what I pay. Actually I was low balling this percentage. In my state Bill Gates pays about 2% of his $billions, I pay 18% in our income. I am actually paying 900% more by these numbers. See?

And yes, states pay plenty of revenue to the feds in order to BE a state, a tiny amount through corporate taxes and other resources ~ and yes, paid by We The People. The reason for this is myriad. In my state Boeing, which was founded and paid for by We The People in this state did not pay one cent in corporate taxes for the past 2 decades. Who paid in their place then? Oh yes, cook the books so as not to pay any taxes so where that money comes is ~ from where?

You guessed it, We The People again.

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/what-are-sources-revenue-federal-government

Just saying here is where this money comes from ~ And most certainly, it is *not* the rich or their money sucking, polluting, slave laboring corporations. Thus because of this situation the poor pay the highest percentage of their incomers in every single state. Here is my state but you can look up yours there as well. https://itep.org/whopays/washington/

My (way more than) 2 cents

Cat in Seattle

DemocraticPatriot

(4,310 posts)
15. Republicans only want everyone to "pay something" so that their tax cut propoganda
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 10:32 PM
Feb 2022

can be made more effective as a campaign issue.


But wait--- does this mean he wants to repeal the Trump 2017 tax cuts? It can't be done without that...

Anyway, anyone with more than $600 is already "paying something into the federal system"-- social security taxes, which are regressive, and into which the better off do not pay their fair share.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
28. We have been using Social Security taxes to fund the government for decades
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 10:11 PM
Mar 2022

and those are paid on every dollar earned up to $120k or so.

oldsoftie

(12,489 posts)
36. Which is NOT what the program was designed for.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 11:12 AM
Mar 2022

The SS program should be solely for payment of benefits.
But Congress couldn't keep their hands off it.

oldsoftie

(12,489 posts)
37. Your disability shouldn't be taxed. Its not income. Period.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 11:13 AM
Mar 2022

You served our country & have earned whatever level you have.

Old Crank

(3,525 posts)
8. Glad he thinks
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 05:40 PM
Feb 2022

that poor Americans don't have 'skin in the game'
The poor have more in teh game than Scott the criminal has.

patphil

(6,150 posts)
9. He lost me with the naming of the border wall.
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 05:43 PM
Feb 2022

First off, we don't need a border wall, and secondly, why would we want a border wall called "The lying sack of shit border wall"?

And then there's this income tax thing. Let's tax the poor so they can "have skin in the game". What he really means is he wants to skin them alive. God forbid he would ask the top 1% to pay their fair share.

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
17. Term Limits
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 11:10 PM
Feb 2022

Back in '94 Newt and the gang made a bunch of noises by highlighting a term limits proposal as part of their "Contract With America". Once they were in power, it was immediately scrapped.

oldsoftie

(12,489 posts)
20. It was scrapped because it was ruled unconstitutional. I don't agree, but there it is.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:17 AM
Feb 2022

We need an Amendment for term limits now!

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
24. The intent is garnering votes in the short term
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:16 AM
Feb 2022

And not long-term implementation, given the "unconstitutionality" involved. Political DNA does not include a career-limiting "death wish". Interesting to note that one of the few elected offices that is term-limited is the POTUS. I'm a proponent of extending term limits to Congress and the Supreme Court as well, but the manner in which this issue has been bandied about since day one tends to leave one just a bit cynical.

oldsoftie

(12,489 posts)
30. Yeah yeah, sure. Incumbents have no advantage at all
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 07:18 AM
Mar 2022

Serving was never meant to be a career nor should you be able to lord over the other members because you've been there 40 years.
Almost ALL Americans support term limits

dsc

(52,152 posts)
32. voters aren't infants and shouldn't be treated as such
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 09:10 AM
Mar 2022

they are perfectly capable of voting out incumbents. We did that with Trump, we did that with many Senators.

oldsoftie

(12,489 posts)
34. BARELY did it with trump. There's nothing wrong with limiting terms.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 11:07 AM
Mar 2022

Especially when almost everyone supports it. It would require an Amendment, so put it to a vote & see.
Many get very rich while in office. And little is done to stop it. We'll see how this trading rule comes out, but they're already loopholing it. 30,40+ year terms are totally unwarranted.
Presidents were term limited because of the obvious power a sitting president has & how it grows over time. Congress has gotten just as bad or worse.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
35. There is a massive amount wrong
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 11:10 AM
Mar 2022

imagine if we had someone trying to find the bathroom as Speaker with Trump as President.

oldsoftie

(12,489 posts)
39. Like a 1st year Member would be elected Speaker.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 11:15 AM
Mar 2022

Limits don't have to be ONE term. Just not UNLIMITED.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
40. Most limits are for at most 12 years
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:19 PM
Mar 2022

meaning that you either get a first time speaker with 10 years experience or if you are lucky speaker gets to start at say year 7 and go to year 12. Neither would have been remotely good given the challenges of Trump. We were very fortunate to have Pelosi both times she was speaker.

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
25. A rare time I agree with Scott
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:34 AM
Feb 2022

I've always thought all adult Americans (at least pre-retirement) should pay something in federal tax, even if it is just a nominal $1.

GenThePerservering

(1,772 posts)
27. Agree with participation
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 06:13 PM
Mar 2022

Unfortunately, the administrative costs to handle that $1 would far outstrip the contribution.

I'd rather see these corporate welfare kings/queens get off the teat and start paying their share, and as well work to lift more people out of poverty so they can live better and contribute to the common good. As a former member of the Poors, I know how little one makes to not have to pay taxes -I was close to sleeping on park benches - and that a third of our population is in this boat in a supposedly wealthy nation is a scandal.

oldsoftie

(12,489 posts)
31. Just like citizens in the Eu; everyone pays SOMETHING.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 07:19 AM
Mar 2022

We need a sales tax/vat tax to capture the trillions of untaxed, unreported income.

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