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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 07:52 PM Feb 2022

BREAKING Ukraine president: Russia has approved offensive

Source: BBC

Posted at 18:41

Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky has just said that Russia has approved an offensive against Ukraine.

He also said President Vladimir Putin had not replied to his invitation to hold talks.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60454795



Zelenskiy makes national address, says Russia has approved offensive against Ukraine

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has just given a 10-minute national address to his country in the early hours of Thursday morning, local time.

Zelenskiy said Russia had approved an offensive against Ukraine and said Russian President Vladimir Putin had not replied to his invitation to hold talks, Reuters reports citing the address in which he spoke in both Ukrainian and Russian.

He also warned that any flare-up from Russian could “burn everything” and create a catastrophic crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/feb/23/ukraine-russia-news-crisis-latest-live-updates-putin-biden-europe-sanctions-russian-invasion-border-troops

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BREAKING Ukraine president: Russia has approved offensive (Original Post) inanna Feb 2022 OP
Is this going to lead to another Cold War? BigmanPigman Feb 2022 #1
IMO, yes. inanna Feb 2022 #2
Experts on CNN saying... AngryOldDem Feb 2022 #5
already has qazplm135 Feb 2022 #15
Cold War? llashram Feb 2022 #17
one suspects commercial airlines will not have rights to fly over russia soon nt msongs Feb 2022 #3
Reported 8pm est Ukrainian airports in Kharkiv, Dnipro and Zaporizhzhia are closed & runways are yaesu Feb 2022 #16
many airlines overfly central russia and siberia as great circle routes as well will be cancelled n msongs Feb 2022 #18
The United Nations security council will hold an emergency meeting on Wednesday night to discuss yaesu Feb 2022 #4
I don't get where UN and NATO are on this...reminiscent of 'thoughts and prayers' rather wiggs Feb 2022 #6
Turkey, a NATO country, has several A400 transport aircraft heading for Kyiv right now yaesu Feb 2022 #10
Thank you for these remarks Drum Feb 2022 #11
you're welcome nt yaesu Feb 2022 #12
Turkey is worried Putin wants to control the Bosporus. haele Feb 2022 #19
We are arming them with weapons, sending supplies, and providing intelligence. Gore1FL Feb 2022 #20
Thanks for updating. n/t inanna Feb 2022 #7
You're welcome nt yaesu Feb 2022 #13
Damn Russia.. KR Cha Feb 2022 #8
I find myself singing a BigmanPigman Feb 2022 #9
I made up a "we hate you Donald Trump, oh, yes we do"... electric_blue68 Feb 2022 #21
I like it! BigmanPigman Feb 2022 #22
At least five explosions were heard in the separatist-held eastern Ukraine city of Donetsk early on yaesu Feb 2022 #14

inanna

(3,547 posts)
2. IMO, yes.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:04 PM
Feb 2022

But I am by no means an expert on these matters.

Hoping others will chime in and respond to you.

Very upsetting past few days.



AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
5. Experts on CNN saying...
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:17 PM
Feb 2022

…this will be much worse than the Balkan conflict. One is Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
15. already has
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:49 PM
Feb 2022

Putin takes Ukraine
China takes Taiwan
Putin takes Georgia

Those are all things we won't intervene militarily, no not even Taiwan.

Then, Putin will test our commitment to the Baltics.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
17. Cold War?
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:13 PM
Feb 2022

Seems very warm at this time and possibly will turn very hot, very soon. ex-KGB DIRECTOR Putin wants Mother Russia as Kruschev, Stalin had it.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
16. Reported 8pm est Ukrainian airports in Kharkiv, Dnipro and Zaporizhzhia are closed & runways are
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:03 PM
Feb 2022

blocked in case of a possible attack, the Kyiv Independent reports, citing a report from ZN media.

The airport in Kherson is to be closed next. Flight paths along the Ukrainian border have also been closed.

Aviation analyse Alex Macheras said multiple airlines, including European carriers, have been informed by aviation risk management agencies that Ukraine is now considered a “do not fly” area.

Reuters has just confirmed our earlier report that the three Ukrainian airports of Dnipro, Kharkiv and Zaporizhzhia have been closed to traffic until Thursday morning, citing a recent notice to airmen.

msongs

(67,405 posts)
18. many airlines overfly central russia and siberia as great circle routes as well will be cancelled n
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:29 PM
Feb 2022

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
4. The United Nations security council will hold an emergency meeting on Wednesday night to discuss
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:12 PM
Feb 2022

Ukraine, diplomats said, after separatists in eastern Ukraine asked for Russia for help to repel “aggression”, Reuters is reporting.

Update: 2m ago
00:28
The UN has confirmed that there will be an emergency meeting of the security council to discuss the Ukraine crisis at 9.30pm on Wednesday, New York time. That is 4.30am in Ukraine and 2.30am GMT.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
6. I don't get where UN and NATO are on this...reminiscent of 'thoughts and prayers' rather
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:19 PM
Feb 2022

than action.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
10. Turkey, a NATO country, has several A400 transport aircraft heading for Kyiv right now
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:29 PM
Feb 2022

probably full of military aid. Turkey is friends with both countries & the president of Turkey is a bit of a nasty sort but he told putin he doesn't agree with his BS. Its just the tip of the iceberg as far as NATO response, many other countries are doing the same. Its about all we can do as its their fight but the US does have drones flying over the border near russia and you can bet we know everything that putin is up to in realtime.

haele

(12,650 posts)
19. Turkey is worried Putin wants to control the Bosporus.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:31 PM
Feb 2022

Russia is also working on Moldova, and probably working on getting eastern Romania by hook or crook, no matter what NATO says.

Haele

Gore1FL

(21,130 posts)
20. We are arming them with weapons, sending supplies, and providing intelligence.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:00 PM
Feb 2022

On top of that, the mobilization of NATO forces to member nations closer to Russia applies an increased passive pressure.

I think the biggest thing being done right now are the sanctions. I don't think they are the answer if the question is "what will deter Putin." But as part of the whole strategy, that has to be a part of it. I don't think they are strong enough, yet, but easing into it is going to be less shocking for Western economies who need to make some quick adjustments as this progresses.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
9. I find myself singing a
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:28 PM
Feb 2022

"Fuck you, Putin" song that I made up. It is mostly profanity but it has a nice tune and is easy to dance to.

electric_blue68

(14,891 posts)
21. I made up a "we hate you Donald Trump, oh, yes we do"...
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 04:03 AM
Feb 2022

Sometime by the end of 2017.

Had ? 4 verses. 😄👍

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
14. At least five explosions were heard in the separatist-held eastern Ukraine city of Donetsk early on
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 08:41 PM
Feb 2022

Thursday morning, a Reuters witness has said. Following the blasts, four military trucks could be seen heading for the scene.

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