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brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:04 AM Feb 2022

Russian conscripts being sent unprepared to Ukraine, says Russian human rights group

Source: Washington Post

BELGOROD, Russia — Russian conscripts are being forced into signing contracts and taken to serve in Ukraine amid a large-scale attack, human rights group the Committee of the Soldier’s Mothers told The Washington Post in an interview on Friday.

“Issue number one right now, eight out of 10 calls that we get are about the same question: ‘Is my child alive? Where is he?’" said Andrey Kurochkin, the organization’s deputy head.

Russia has mandatory one-year-long military service for all men under the age of 27. According to Russian regulations, conscripts can be sent to a combat zone no earlier than four months into their training. The Committee says it received a barrage of calls saying some conscripts barely served two months and are unprepared for the battlefield.

Kurochkin explains that, according to their mothers, some of the conscripts thought they were heading toward the Ukrainian border for drills, which is how Russia explained its massive buildup for weeks. “Then they are being told: now you are contractors,” he said. “And everyone’s phones are being taken away, while moms are crying and in panic.”


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/25/ukraine-invasion-russia-news/#link-AL7FFRO36NBENP5HOJVMZ2ELMM
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Russian conscripts being sent unprepared to Ukraine, says Russian human rights group (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2022 OP
"Then they are being told: now you are contractors," atreides1 Feb 2022 #1
Key point to repeat. Conscripted mercenaries paid by Russian citizens for oligarch benefit Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #11
Reading a bit into the translation. Igel Feb 2022 #19
Absolutely No regard for honor, truth, or for that matter, LIFE. Guilded Lilly Feb 2022 #2
I just had an image of the Mothers taking out the russian madman. niyad Feb 2022 #3
Despite its size, the Russian military is revealing fatal weaknesses. C_U_L8R Feb 2022 #4
I'm put in mind of the Soviet soldiers charging the Germans at Stalingrad CanonRay Feb 2022 #5
About 1.5 percent of retreating Soviets were shot TomWilm Feb 2022 #12
As Stalin said gladium et scutum Feb 2022 #15
Reeks of desperation, but why? ck4829 Feb 2022 #6
If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance UpInArms Feb 2022 #7
Putin seems in a rush. Cracklin Charlie Feb 2022 #8
I read a few articles blue-wave Feb 2022 #9
And a large percentage of the officers are raging alcoholics. SunSeeker Feb 2022 #18
How Trump-like. "Pure genius!" n/t TeamProg Feb 2022 #10
all the more reason for them to give up their arms & surrender so this senseless war is over with onetexan Feb 2022 #13
Remember the much-vaunted Iraqi Royal Guard? Collapsed like a house of cards. Midnight Writer Feb 2022 #14
The Iraqi Elite Republican Guard. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 #17
I have read many stories saying that life for a Russian conscript PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2022 #16

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
11. Key point to repeat. Conscripted mercenaries paid by Russian citizens for oligarch benefit
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:01 PM
Feb 2022

Except Putin is overplaying his hand and the oligarchs aren't going to be pleased with the sanctions.

Igel

(35,274 posts)
19. Reading a bit into the translation.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 08:53 PM
Feb 2022

I had a student last year who signed a *contract* to serve in the Marines. Assuming he passed training.

He passed training. The contract's in effect. He's a contractor. In an odd meaning of the word.

Watch out for strange things in translations. Many translations from Russian into English use the words that speakers might have not been intending. Ahem.

Old phrase for it, "Moscow English." Absolutely fluent, often grammatically unblemished, but, we know, there is something just a small bit off with much of it. (Instead of "flawless" and "little bit." It's not *wrong*, it's just not right.)

C_U_L8R

(44,987 posts)
4. Despite its size, the Russian military is revealing fatal weaknesses.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:11 AM
Feb 2022

Military planners around the world are surely noticing Putin and Russia project more image than actual strength.

CanonRay

(14,084 posts)
5. I'm put in mind of the Soviet soldiers charging the Germans at Stalingrad
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:12 AM
Feb 2022

without weapons. And being shot by their officers if they retreated.

TomWilm

(1,832 posts)
12. About 1.5 percent of retreating Soviets were shot
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:13 PM
Feb 2022
A report to the Commissar General of State Security (NKVD chief) Lavrentiy Beria on October 10, 1941, noted that since the beginning of the war, NKVD anti-retreat troops had detained a total of 657,364 retreating, spies, traitors, instigators and deserting personnel, of which 25,878 were arrested, of which 10,201 were sentenced to death by court martial and the rest were returned to active duty.

- The UK executed 306 'cowards' in WW1

Deserting soldiers and conscientious objectors have never been treated fair. Neither today:

- Ukrainian Males Aged 18 to 60 Are Now Banned from Leaving Ukraine.

- Ukrainian journalist and pacifist Ruslan Kotsaba was put under trial, because he published a blog calling to boycott mobilization for armed conflict in Eastern Ukraine. For his expression of antiwar thoughts, he is accused of treason and obstructing military operations. Prosecutor asks the court to sentence him to 13 years of imprisonment.



Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
8. Putin seems in a rush.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:44 AM
Feb 2022

Everything about it seems rushed. I am wondering if he is in a hurry because of something to do with his health.

Trying to complete his bucket list?

blue-wave

(4,344 posts)
9. I read a few articles
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:49 AM
Feb 2022

which stated that the Russian army forces many of their conscripts to the front lines by beating them. And they are young, just kids 18 or a little older. Think of when you were 18 and you witness some half crazed army officer beating your friend to the front line. How dedicated would you be?

And the officers are of poor quality too, allegedly poorly trained.

SunSeeker

(51,511 posts)
18. And a large percentage of the officers are raging alcoholics.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 05:14 PM
Feb 2022

As is the case with the general population in Russia. It's how they cope with their miserable lives.

onetexan

(13,020 posts)
13. all the more reason for them to give up their arms & surrender so this senseless war is over with
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:15 PM
Feb 2022

quickly. I'm really hoping this w be the case and the russian people w rise up to depose this horrendous authoritarian jackass.

Midnight Writer

(21,712 posts)
14. Remember the much-vaunted Iraqi Royal Guard? Collapsed like a house of cards.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:52 PM
Feb 2022

This is conscripted teenagers against people fighting for their homes, families, and ways of life.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,739 posts)
17. The Iraqi Elite Republican Guard.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 03:34 PM
Feb 2022

When some moron wants to say Nazis were Socialists I respond the Hussein's Elite Republican Guard were members of the GOP.

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