Radioactive Waste Facility in Kyiv Struck by Russian Missile, Ukraine Says

[TheProle]

Source: Vice

A Russian missile hit a radioactive-waste burial facility in Kyiv overnight, the State Nuclear Regulatory Inspectorate of Ukraine posted on Facebook. The organization said there is “no way to assess the scale of the destruction” at the moment but it believes there’s no immediate threat to human life caused by the radiation alone (though Kyiv obviously remains a war zone).

“As a result of the mass bombing in Kyiv, missile weapons struck a burial point of radioactive waste,” the nuclear regulatory inspectorate posted. The agency said that employees of the organization that handles Ukraine’s radiation storage “are in shelter due to ongoing mass shelling.” It added that the facility’s automated radiation monitoring system is currently broken but surveillance cameras captured the strike. “The radiation environment will be evaluated by portable devices after the shelling is completed. According to the preliminary assessment of the State Regulation, outside the sanitary and protection zone, there is no threat to the population.”

Read more: https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dgjwa/radioactive-waste-facility-in-kyiv-struck-by-russian-missile-ukraine-says

[Evolve Dammit]

1. This is scary shit. Targeting these sites is a crime against humanity. aka war crime

[Wicked Blue]

2. Oh, don't worry. It's all green energy, right?

[cstanleytech]

6. No energy production that we currently have the tech for will be "green".

With solar and wind you have the problem of the batteries needed to store the energy being rather harmful to the environment from mining and refining the materials needed to long term effects of disposing of spent batteries.
Plus you have the problem that solar and wind are unable to produce energy at a constant rate unlike nuclear which can.
That's not to say nuclear is perfect as you do have issues with if there is a leak it can be deadly depending on how much radiation a person is exposed to and the issue of long term storage of spent fuel.
But anyway the point we come back to is that no energy production is green and probably never will be.

[Blues Heron]

7. Wind and solar dont need deadly fuel

thats the big difference. You wont render vast swaths of land uninhabitable for centuries with wind or solar.

[cstanleytech]

9. Actually they both use cadmium and or lithium and those can be extremely deadly and

are almost as much of a pain in the ass to dispose of safely as nuclear.
Thats not say we should abandon them as they can and should play a part but they are unlikely to be the solution to a true clean source of energy for our needs.

[Blues Heron]

12. thats not fuel though

and you dont need batteries either - they just kick out clean fuel free watts and are non hazardous during wartime. Nuke people never really think about what happens to the nukes when it all goes sideways. At the rate we are going probably every nuke plant will eventually be a Chernobyl sooner rather than later.

[cstanleytech]

13. Actually to maximize the usefulness of solar and wind batteries for storage are almost a must.

Why? For solar because if you do not have it on cloudy days or at night you wont produce any energy so if you need a constant source of power batteries are must.
Wind also needs batteries for calm days as there are few places that get a constant amount of wind to produce a constant supply of power so you need batteries to store power for those times.

[Blues Heron]

14. actually most wind farms do not have batteries

they are just plain old grid tied wind farms. Your point is pretty much a red herring used by nuke people a lot.

Remember- nothing needs to be mined to fuel solar or wind, unlike dirty oil or nukes which require industrial scale mining just to keep them running.

[cstanleytech]

15. " nothing needs to be mined to fuel solar or wind"

You mean other than the copper and other metals that might be needed to produce and or mount them.
As for my personal opinion on nuke plants……..I don’t like having to rely on them for our energy needs at all so I fully support the solar and wind investment.
Hopefully one day it will pan out and be able to fully replace things like nuke and coal plants.

[Blues Heron]

18. They dont need fuel to run

obviously everything that is built is built from stuff, no one is saying they are not.

They do not need dirty, hazardous, radioactive, mined fuel to kick out clean watts though.

[MerryBlooms]

11. Will the Russians be bombing spent battery

facilities? Serious question. Do those battery disposal sites pose the same risk as the bombing of nuclear waste facilities?

[womanofthehills]

16. Large scale wind & solar is not being stored in batteries

- it’s part of a system that usually includes coal, natural gas and nuclear. It works with other systems and is increasingly being a larger part of the system. So when the wind dies down more natural gas or whatever will take up the slack. NM and Texas are two states with lots of wind farms.

[cstanleytech]

17. To be honest I am not a fan of using natural gas as it is not zero carbon but I will

grant you it is far less than coal which is good thing.
What I really wish we could transition to is geothermal or fusion if they can ever get it to produce more energy than it takes in right now.

[cinematicdiversions]

10. Well you can be pro global warming. Or you can embrace energy sources that don't increase it.

The support for oil and gas and coal on this board because they are stuck in the early eighties marching against nukes and for coal never fails to amaze me.

[womanofthehills]

19. So in NM, PNM has solar wind farms in middle and southern part of state.

I have some 90’ high transmission lines from the wind farms crossing my land. However, this line is selling the wind energy to Arizona. Our coal plants were pretty much closed down. NM gets over 20% of its electricity from wind. PNM announced last week that if the coal plant isn’t reopened this summer we will have rolling blackouts. But, hello, they are sending energy they produce out of state - so making more money overrides pollution.

[IronLionZion]

4. Malicious, like they just want to spread radiation around

a lot of targets don't seem to have much military value but mostly screw the people who live there.

[AntiFascist]

5. Putin is proving that he is a terrorist. n/t

[Cheezoholic]

8. "We havent used dirty bombs

Every weapon weve used is conventional. Now if they ust happen to have a waste facility or even just radioactive dirt where we are shooting, that's on them" is what they will say.

Sounds like a billion dollar multi national arguing an environmental case.