China Warns West as Report Promises to Resolve 'Taiwan Question'
Source: Newsweek
The Chinese government warned Saturday against foreign interference in its relations with Taiwan as it released a new report pledging to resolve the issue of Taiwanese independence "in the modern era."
The issue of Taiwanese independence has long put China at odds with many Western nations, as China considers Taiwan to be part of its nationstaunchly opposing any independence movements. Taiwanese leaders, however, consider the island to be its own country, making the relationship between the two all the more difficult.
During remarks at the opening of China's parliament meeting, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang stood by the "One China" principle, which states that Taiwan is part of a unified China.
"We will advance the peaceful growth of relations across the Taiwan Strait and the reunification of China," he said, according to Reuters. "We firmly oppose any separatist activities seeking 'Taiwan independence' and firmly oppose foreign interference," adding, "All of us, Chinese on both sides of the Taiwan Strait, should come together to advance the great and glorious cause of China's rejuvenation."
Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/china-warns-west-report-promises-resolve-taiwan-question-1685219
Interesting timing on this, no?
Clearly an attempt to pressure supporters of our democratic ally Taiwan to back off.
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)and the whole world can see how Ukraine isn't going as well for the Russians as they expected. Being an island, Taiwan would be more difficult to take.
bluewater
(5,376 posts)While Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24th, 9 days ago.
An honest assessment is that invading Ukraine is a major major undertaking and the Russian advances are not that much slower than the US's during the Iraq war, certainly in the same rough ballpark.
And Ukraine is bigger than Iraq, larger than Texas in fact.
It's important to realize how large Ukraine is: 784.93 miles wide and 346.4 miles long.
And Ukraine has more people than Iraq, 44 million compared to 28 million.
It's important to not get caught up in the news cycle that expects things to all happen instantly and to underestimate the Russian threat.
Russia is progressing relentlessly in their invasion and Ukraine needs more help, that is the fact of the matter.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,361 posts)to USA vs. Iraq. They are in much worse shape than we were.
I was opposed to that war, but I could not help but admire the efficiency of the US military in waging it, as a 'military strategic problem'...
Besides the differences you note, there are these:
1: Saddam Hussein was NOT a good guy, even if he wasn't really working on building nuclear weapons. He was a murderous despot, and thus did not receive the sympathy of the world, nor sanctions against the US for our actions. Ukraine is a fledgling democracy, with a leader who has rapidly become a hero to the world.
2 If my memory serves correctly, the US very rapidly established air superiority in that war... maybe a "no-fly zone" was still even in effect, since the first gulf war, I do not recall now..
3. US forces knew what they were there for, and knew it was not for "exercises", or as a "peacekeeping force" (!) lol
4. US forces were not stalled in a 40 mile line outside of Baghdad because they had run out of gas, and run out of food, or because our soldiers were puncturing the gas tanks because they did not want to fight, or selling the fuel because they had no food...
5. The US was not arresting protesters by the thousands, or making it a "crime" to say that our invasion of Iraq was "a war" lol
6. The Iraqi civilian population was not so united nor active in fighting to oppose the US invasion-- that came later as a war of insurgency, when we failed to leave... If memory serves, much of the Iraqi armed forces could not wait to lay down their arms-- as opposed to this war, where it is elements of the invading forces who beg to surrender...
Anyway, if the Russians hoped to duplicate their subjugation of Ukraine upon the US-Iraq war, they are failing very miserably.
They might eventually succeed in toppling the government, but as we learned in Iraq (and as the Russians learned in Afghanistan, but have failed to remember), that would only be "the end of the beginning".
bluestarone
(16,926 posts)China asked little pooty to wait until after the Olympics??? Bunch of fucking bastards for sure!
bluewater
(5,376 posts)localroger
(3,626 posts)...considering what a clusterfuck the Ukraine invasion has become. Yeah, China was probably hoping for that to provide cover for a move on Taiwan, but the exact opposite has happened; Russia has failed to consolidate gains, lagged far behind expected goals, and drawn the ire of the whole world in sanctions and dissolved business relationships. Does China really want any of that?
bluewater
(5,376 posts)March 5, 2022
Russian attacks on nuclear sites could destabilize Ukraines energy supply
Russian forces attacked the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant on March 3 and are now reportedly pushing toward the South Ukraine nuclear power plant. These are Ukraines two largest nuclear power plants, together responsible for one-third of Ukraines electricity generation.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/world/europe/ukraine-maps.html
Don't be fooled, the Russian invasion is on going and relentless.
This is just day 9 of the Russian invasion so perhaps it's informative to remember that it took the US 19 days to capture Baghdad in the Iraq War.
President Zelensky has been making daily and sometimes hourly statements on how drastic the situation actually is for Ukraine.
I believe him whole heartedly.
Ukraine needs more help now, the entire country is in danger.
localroger
(3,626 posts)But it's been far more expensive than Putin expected, both in terms of military expenditures and losses and in international standing. Even if Russia "takes" Ukraine now the best that can be hoped for is a WW2 occupied France type of situation where there will be a vigorous and relentless insurgency armed with far more effective weapons and communication tools than the French resistance had, and ongoing weapons resupply from a long series of borders which can't be effectively sealed. So again, having seen what Putin has (not) achieved in the last two weeks, who in their right mind would want some of that for themselves?
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)Do you think Putin and Xi are in their right minds?
localroger
(3,626 posts)Russia and China have an animosity going back to well before the USA existed, though, and I'd expect any Chinese leader to be rather enjoying the shitshow performance their ancient nemesis was putting out and the weakness it is exposing. Xi even joined in the pile-on once it was clear the sanctions were going to be a global thing and there was no downside for them to joining in. So I'd think Xi would look upon the ruin looming for the Russians and be gloating about it rather than seeking to share the pain. But yeah, that does assume that Xi is assessing the situation sanely.
Me.
(35,454 posts)not fooled
(5,801 posts)from dictator Xi.
That might turn out to be the fallback position for dictators trying to fend off criticism of their empire building.
bluewater
(5,376 posts)I do not doubt that he would use nuclear weapons on Taiwan if he felt the need.
colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)The Chinese are very, very good business people, and making Taiwan uninhabitable or unappealing to any trade is a losing option all around. They are very smart and would want to keep this ideal port location open and thriving to benefit them.
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)If china does that.. all the places around the world that theyve been investing in buying favor and power and resources.. suddenly get way way more nervous about what strings come with that money.
Xoan
(25,320 posts)😂
bluewater
(5,376 posts)China is committed to resolving the Taiwan question in the new era, it said in its annual government report issued Saturday, using sharper wording than in previous such reports amid debate among foreign-policy experts over whether Beijing would attempt a takeover of the self-ruled island similar to Russias invasion of Ukraine.
Beijings annual work report traditionally includes a couple of paragraphs declaring that the government will continue working toward the unification of Taiwan. This is the first year since President Xi Jinping came to power a decade ago that this section of the annual report includes a time frame in the new era although its unclear how long a period this means.
The stronger wording is in line with Beijings signals of impatience on Taiwan over the past few years, which have alarmed residents of the island. Xi said in 2019 that we should not allow this problem to be passed down from one generation to the next.
Huang Kwei-bo, associate professor of diplomacy at Taiwans National Chengchi University, said the term in the new era was closely associated with Xis rule and has been showing up more often in various contexts.
Huang said Xi likely wants to send the message that he is ready to deal with both old and new problems in the new era.
Saturdays report also repeated previous language on advancing the peaceful growth of relations across the Taiwan Strait and opposing separatist activities.
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Russia's war in Ukraine has created ripples around the world, revealing an undercurrent of concern among the people of Taiwan that they, too, could be vulnerable to invasion.
Chinese leader Xi Jinping's refusal to criticise Vladimir Putin's war has raised concerns that Beijing is watching Russia's invasion with an eye to a future conflict for control of the island.
Taiwan's President Tsai Ing-wen has played down comparisons with Ukraine, using a speech last week to declare "fundamental differences", including the "natural barrier of the Taiwan Strait".
While many Taiwanese analysts share her assessment, there are still uneasy parallels, including authoritarian leaders who stoke nationalism, historical claims to territory and a focus on specific leaders and parties as valid targets.
"China's passive role in this Ukraine crisis is very embarrassing and awkward," said Kuo Yujen, a China specialist at National Sun Yat-sen University in Taipei.
"But I definitely believe China will study at least two things from it: Putin's military strategy and the responses of the US and the international community."
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/taiwan-is-watching-russias-war-in-ukraine-warily-with-fears-chinas-xi-jinping-could-learn-from-vladimir-putins-strategy/ar-AAUAmoM?ocid=uxbndlbing
marie999
(3,334 posts)and Taiwan isn't. Only 15 countries but not the US or any European country believe Taiwan is a sovereign country.
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)there is strategic ambiguity about its status. Which from my simplistic view seems mean it depends on the specific situation. Bit ambiguous... I guess that's the point.
marie999
(3,334 posts)quakerboy
(13,920 posts)Can we offer China most of Russia in exchange for permanently giving up on taking Taiwan and recognizing them as an independant country?
colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)quakerboy
(13,920 posts)But they might feel it would be a step up from Putin.
Its not a real answer. I know this. But as i look for any way out of this mess that doesnt leave the world with a nuclear war, its a thought that popped into my head.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,361 posts)Especially in practice...
So it would seem to me, that it would be an unnecessary provocation to 'the mother country' that they should make any such "declaration of independence"...
They could participate in diplomatic negotiations with China on the matter, and drag it out for many years... China is not Russia, and has a desire to try to resolve the matter peaceably (and may be incapable of resolving it by force, at present... What is happening now in Ukraine must be a sort of "object lesson" to them...)
Hekate
(90,674 posts)
. never actually declared over and settled by them. In their minds, Taiwan belongs to them and is an unreclaimed territory. The Peoples Republic of China intends to have it back.
All during my lifetime it was an American satellite and it served our Cold War purposes to keep it in Chinas face and under our aegis. I think China has been very provocative of late, frequently buzzing the islands airspace with fighter jets and the like.
I think Trump didnt give a rip, so they were emboldened.
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)Also, China has a much larger toolkit to achieve whatever goals they have. And if at some point they do decide war is the only solution, they are still pretty unproven, and this Russian mess might give them some pause. Although, I'm sure they are taking notes. They seem pretty good at learning from others (passively and actively) I'm not sure if they would get the same economic hit as Russia is getting, though. Might makes right, and China is a mighty economic power. Is it much different than when the US invaded Iraq? Many wagged their fingers and said bad bad bad, but were there any real consequences outside of the ones we gave ourselves by starting that needless war? But even if they are not hit as bad economically, it's not going to be nice when they lose their biggest trading partner (us). Given all the investments and other activities they have around the globe, it's hard to see them put that at risk just so they look like huge assholes to the world when they think they have other means of getting what they want.
But I'm just a dork on the internet who likes to type nonsense. I like to add the disclaimer to everything I write so that no one takes anything I say as being anything other than things I think of when taking a shower...and doing a #2...but only if my phone isn't on me.