Defense: FBI knew Whitmer kidnap suspects were 'stoned' crazy talkers

[SouthBayDem]

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Source: Detroit Free Press

The suspects charged with plotting to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer were stoners who got so high that they talked about attaching Whitmer to a kite and flying her over a lake, about barking in the woods to get her to come out of her house, or playing loud music at night to get her attention, a defense lawyer argued Wednesday.

"The FBI knew this was stoned crazy talk," defense attorney Joshua Blanchard told the jury, arguing the FBI set up the suspects with an undercover informant who also got high with them.

The FBI had many opportunities to shut down this investigation, and should have done so, Blanchard told jurors. But the government was hell bent on building a case that it knew didn't exist, he argued, alleging there were many pot-induced conversations that should have prompted the FBI to call off the investigation.


Read more: https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/03/09/whitmer-kidnap-trial-defense-stoned-suspects/9439974002/

[NQAS]

1. Okay

The world also knows that Putin is a delusional, evil fuck. And he bombed a children’s hospital. By the defense’s reasoning, that means Putin can’t be tried for war crimes.

Being stupid and stoned shouldn’t be a stay out of jail free defense .

[Diamond_Dog]

2. Oh, yeah, so it was all a big joke....

LOCK THEIR STONED ASSES UP.

[keithbvadu2]

3. The lawyer probably left out this part: with guns.

The lawyer probably left out this part: with guns.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

4. LOL,

yeah, good luck with that defense.

[unblock]

5. i was gonna just talk to the gov / but i got high

i was gonna leave it at that / but i got high

now they're sending me to jail / and i know why

because i got high

because i got high

because i got high

[Warpy]

6. Two things wrong with this defense

First, "Reefer Madness" was a movie, one so bad it became a cult classic and it was a total lie, produced by scared old white men. While pot produces nasty side effects in some people (anxiety, racing heart, vomiting with high THC doses), most people just lay back and enjoy the buzz.

Second, these "stoners" had high powered weapons, military gear, lots of ammo, and (if I'm not having a senior moment) some bomb making materials. These were not idle dreamers. These were men who were assembling the means to act on their fantasies and that, dear counselor, is against the law.

[Alpeduez21]

7. At some point you have to take responsibility for your actions

It was true when I was a child and it's still true today. "Just because everyone else is kidnapping the Governor doesn't mean you can too."

[NCjack]

8. I have no problems with the FBI listening to plans of stoned criminals.

[cstanleytech]

9. So, people should not be held accountable if they now start driving when they are drunk and

kill someone because its not their fault they were to drunk to know any better? In fact its all the fault of the liquor companies?

[chowder66]

10. And Charles Manson took low doses of LSD and recorded an album.

[Hekate]

11. Riiiiiight. Actually I think they're women-hating thugs.

[Torchlight]

12. A variation of the Fox News defense.

"Your honor, no one in their right minds could take what our clients said with any degree of seriousness. They're just entertainment/too stoned."

[EarthFirst]

13. Give me a break on the "stoner" meme

Millions of daily cannabis users in its various deliveries have never once gathered weapons or concocted plots to kidnap government officials.

Refer madness was debunked decades ago…

[Delphinus]

18. Thank you

That can't be lost.

[bucolic_frolic]

14. Pot is an excuse for everything. Just tell them you were stoned.

Uuuum ... no. Can't go down that road.

[jalan48]

15. So, Cheech and Chong with guns?

[C Moon]

16. Twinkie Defense

[appleannie1]

17. You do crap stoned that you don't have balls to do sober.

Being drunk or high does not mean you are not capable of committing a crime.

[ruet]

19. Are They 15 or Something?

What kind of "stoners" are we talking about here? They have to blame THC because it's legal in MI.

[VGNonly]

20. The devil made me high!

[Thomas Hurt]

21. The christofascist squeal when people call them stupid. Then they whine about being cancelled.

Then when they screw up and commit crimes they say it was because they were joking, stupid, or what they did was so surreal that no one could believe they were serious.

[Buckeyeblue]

22. That's not much of a defense they are paying for

Probably should have taken the deal.

[LiberalFighter]

23. Are the defense attornies stoned?

[Obvious85]

24. So if you're stoned (or drunk) then crimes committed don't count?

Nice Try. That defense screams GUILTY

[Omaha Steve]

25. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING

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