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Eugene

(61,964 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:54 PM Mar 2022

Florida House passes election police bill, sends it to gov

Source: Associated Press

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Florida lawmakers on Wednesday passed a voting law package that would create a police force dedicated to pursuing election crimes, a proposal pushed by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

The GOP-controlled House approved the measure on a party lines vote with Republicans in support. The bill now heads to the governor’s office, where it is expected to be signed into law.

DeSantis, a potential 2024 presidential candidate, called for an election police unit in a speech last year where he referenced unspecified cases of fraud. Such allegations have become popular in parts of the GOP that have embraced former President Donald Trump’s false claims that his reelection was stolen due to widespread fraud.

Voter fraud is rare and generally detected. An Associated Press investigation of every potential case of voter fraud in the six battleground states disputed by Trump — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — found fewer than 475 cases out of 25.5 million ballots cast. There is also consensus among election officials and experts that there was no fraud that could have impacted results in the last presidential election.

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By ANTHONY IZAGUIRRE
35 minutes ago


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-crime-police-florida-voting-3d66da7e765a0dd7f4db590654185c26

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GB_RN

(2,391 posts)
12. That's The Idea...
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 12:01 AM
Mar 2022

And, harass and intimidate minorities at the polls because they "heard" there was something fishy going on at those precincts.

ShazzieB

(16,559 posts)
10. Does anyone really still think that?
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 11:35 PM
Mar 2022

Anyone who doesn't expect the FL GOP to keep looking for ways to get nastier or crazier hasn't been paying attention, imo.

Same with TX and a bunch of other red states. ID is one of the pack leaders at the moment, but it's just a matter of time before some other red state surpasses even them.

Jimvanhise

(304 posts)
5. ELECTION POLICE?
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 09:31 PM
Mar 2022

When Obama was running for his second term, 5 guys calling themselves the New Black Panther Party showed up as poll watches, and Fox News had a meltdown. But apparently Florida having election police is fine with them. When other countries had election police, it was to insure that the dictator in chief was re-elected.

patphil

(6,230 posts)
7. And we're absolutely certain this will never be used as a partisan tool to intimidate voters.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 10:02 PM
Mar 2022

How effin' transparent is this? First make it hard to vote, then come down hard on people who do vote.
Voter fraud is in itself a fraud perpetuated by Republicans. Election police is an agency looking for a reason to exist.
Unfortunately, the reason is to insure the Republicans never lose another election.

turbinetree

(24,726 posts)
9. Let's see Florida now has goons checking voting, Texas you damn near can't vote....
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 11:10 PM
Mar 2022

and now hidden in plain site is what is called the Independent State Legislature (ISL) doctrine.

How the right turned a fringe constitutional theory into a brutal political weapon that could lock in GOP power
While this week has brought good news on voting rights from the Supreme Court, it may very well be a temporary win.

In a pair of orders issued on Monday, the justices allowed court-ordered congressional maps to stand in North Carolina and Pennsylvania , refusing to interfere with decisions by those state supreme courts. Republicans in both states had asked the court to block those maps under a tortured legal theory that has been advancing on the right, known as the Independent State Legislature (ISL) doctrine.

Make no mistake: This is a tremendous victory for voters in both states. The North Carolina state Supreme Court had rejected a GOP-drawn congressional map that guaranteed Republicans at least 10 and potentially 11 of the state's 14 seats as a violation of the state constitution. In Pennsylvania, where the state Supreme Court unwound last decade's extreme GOP gerrymander in 2018, that court mandated what most observers consider a balanced 9-8 map that does not favor either party.

The orders indicate an unlikely alliance. While the Pennsylvania order was unsigned, it appears the three liberals were joined by Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett to deny the emergency application in the North Carolina case, with a concurrence by Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Justices Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch joined Justice Alito's dissent.

Yet while fair maps in North Carolina and Pennsylvania dodged a bullet, there is frightening news: As we first warned in Salon last September , the Independent State Legislature doctrine remains a live threat to free elections. Alito's dissent called the ISL — which speaks to whether a state court has the power to reject laws adopted by a state legislature concerning federal elections, or whether the legislature has unfettered control — "an exceptionally important and recurring question of constitutional law."

RELATED: Beware the "Independent State Legislatures doctrine" — it could checkmate democracy

https://news.knowledia.com/US/en/articles/will-the-independent-state-legislature-doctrine-literally-mean-the-end-of-301b235a001573900a4f08513806b06a3a68bb4a

PufPuf23

(8,843 posts)
14. Why doesn't DeSantis and the Florida GOP make voting while Democrat illegal?
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:05 AM
Mar 2022

Much more straightforward, honest, and easier to enforce.

XacerbatedDem

(511 posts)
15. How come I feel like I'm reading Orwell's "1984" all over again?
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 08:59 AM
Mar 2022

This is how it starts. What's next for FL, Thought Police?

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