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mahatmakanejeeves

(69,854 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:31 PM Mar 2022

A 13-year-old was behind the wheel in Texas crash that killed nine people and left two ...

Source: CNN

A 13-year-old was behind the wheel in Texas crash that killed nine people and left two University of the Southwest golfers critically injured

By Ray Sanchez, Steve Almasy, Rosa Flores

Updated 5:04 PM ET, Thu March 17, 2022

(CNN) -- A 13-year-old boy drove the pickup truck involved in a fiery head-on collision in Texas that killed nine people, including six University of the Southwest golfers and their coach, a National Transportation Safety Board official said Thursday.

Preliminary information indicates the left front tire of the pickup was a spare that failed, causing the vehicle to pull hard to the left into oncoming traffic of a two-lane roadway, NTSB Vice Chairman Bruce Landsberg said. ... Investigators were able to identify the remains of the driver by his size, Landsberg said. Both vehicles were probably moving close to the posted speed limit of 75 mph, he said.

Henrich Siemens, 38, of Seminole, Texas, was in the truck with the boy, authorities said. He was among the nine people killed in the Tuesday evening crash.

Two survivors of the crash, both students, are still hospitalized. ... The survivors are recovering and making steady progress, University of the Southwest Provost Ryan Tipton said Thursday.

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Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/17/us/usw-golf-team-van-crash-thursday/index.html



This is already posted elsewhere at DU.

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ESPN: NTSB says 13-year-old driving truck in crash involving University of the Southwest golf teams

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216494995

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My "WTF is wrong with this guy?" story of the day, guy lets a 13-year old drive a truck and crash...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216495003
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A 13-year-old was behind the wheel in Texas crash that killed nine people and left two ... (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2022 OP
Does anyone know why the 38 year old allowed the 13 year old to drive? Ilsa Mar 2022 #1
Maybe the adult was drunk? pfitz59 Mar 2022 #4
Might be why the one tire was out already Effete Snob Mar 2022 #7
in texas , - monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #22
Because it's TEXAS. James48 Mar 2022 #5
Yeah, I anticipated your post. Paladin Mar 2022 #10
As a fellow Texan, my experience differs. Especially where I am from in West Texas, it is... keopeli Mar 2022 #15
If this was a rural area, it might not be so uncommon. cab67 Mar 2022 #17
That has been my experience. murielm99 Mar 2022 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #23
That is an "oh no!" headlines, so sad and yet why was he allowed to be in control of a lethal weapon yaesu Mar 2022 #2
Looks like the 38 year old may have been a trucker JudyM Mar 2022 #3
Oh shit. milestogo Mar 2022 #6
Why wasn't the adult driving and why did the adult.. LiberatedUSA Mar 2022 #8
My spare, I just looked at it, says 50 MPH max. marie999 Mar 2022 #9
I don't even have a spare. halfulglas Mar 2022 #16
Stupidity is more common... Xoan Mar 2022 #11
Old enough howardmappel Mar 2022 #12
The speed limit on a two-lane road is 75 mph? Huh? ironflange Mar 2022 #13
Excuse me . . . Haggis 4 Breakfast Mar 2022 #18
A narrow road though? ironflange Mar 2022 #19
Yes, a narrow road and Haggis 4 Breakfast Mar 2022 #20
Yecchh ironflange Mar 2022 #21
guessing some people don't travel much ? monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #24
MMMUUUUUHHHH RIIIIOTS BradAllison Mar 2022 #14
this need's to be flagged !! monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #25
Why? BradAllison Mar 2022 #26

Ilsa

(64,371 posts)
1. Does anyone know why the 38 year old allowed the 13 year old to drive?
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:34 PM
Mar 2022

Did anyone explain to him that driving on a spare means more caution and lower speed are prudent?

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
22. in texas , -
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:46 PM
Mar 2022

I lived in Northern Texas & a lot of parents teach the kid's to drive at a early age & if they are drunk , the kid's get them home ! see it a lot ! not just putting Texas down , happen's all over the country ! just another rude awakening !

James48

(5,215 posts)
5. Because it's TEXAS.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:46 PM
Mar 2022

Last edited Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:43 PM - Edit history (1)

It’s a whole ‘nother country down there.

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
10. Yeah, I anticipated your post.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 06:31 PM
Mar 2022

Contrary to your wishful thinking, we Texans do not encourage 13-year-old children to drive. Depriving them of the chance to read a classic like "Maus"? Yes. Getting behind the wheel and killing a bunch of college kids? No.

keopeli

(3,582 posts)
15. As a fellow Texan, my experience differs. Especially where I am from in West Texas, it is...
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 07:22 PM
Mar 2022

very common for parents to let their 13 or 12-year-old son drive their car, even without the parent in the passenger seat. It is less common for parents to let their daughters drive at such a young age, though they still let them drive before they are old enough to do so.

To be fair, I do not have scientific studies to prove this to be the case. However, in my experience, the West Texas culture promotes all sorts of inappropriate behavior for pre-adolescent boys.

Peace

cab67

(3,754 posts)
17. If this was a rural area, it might not be so uncommon.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 08:57 PM
Mar 2022

It's not unique to Texas, either - kids growing up on farms are not infrequently allowed to drive, though parents usually don't let them drive beyond their property.

Response to James48 (Reply #5)

yaesu

(9,328 posts)
2. That is an "oh no!" headlines, so sad and yet why was he allowed to be in control of a lethal weapon
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:36 PM
Mar 2022

on a highway,

milestogo

(23,084 posts)
6. Oh shit.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:49 PM
Mar 2022

Well if there were issues with the tire it could have happened anyway, but someone with no driving experience should not have been at the wheel.

What a tragedy.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
8. Why wasn't the adult driving and why did the adult..
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 06:04 PM
Mar 2022

…allow the kid to go so fast on a spare? Good fucking grief.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
16. I don't even have a spare.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 07:51 PM
Mar 2022

My 2017 Ford has one of those "kits" that has slime in it that you're supposed to put in your tire and then drive on it.

howardmappel

(101 posts)
12. Old enough
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 06:55 PM
Mar 2022

Dagnabit (or whatever the appropriate saying is), is he is old enough to shoot a gun then he is old enough to drive. And stopping children from driving is even worse than making them get vaxxed or wear a mask. So there.

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,505 posts)
20. Yes, a narrow road and
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:36 PM
Mar 2022

very few highway patrol cars up there.

What I find crazy are some state speed limits in the mountain passes. It's like they're begging for accidents.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
26. Why?
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:58 PM
Mar 2022

Because I think this is how sociopath shitbags think? Letting their 13 year olds drive while they're pissing themselves drunk?

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