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Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:00 AM

Ivermectin didn't protect people from COVID-19, study shows

Source: Marketwatch

Researchers testing repurposed drugs against Covid-19 found that ivermectin didnít reduce hospital admissions, in the largest trial yet of the effect of the antiparasitic on the disease driving the pandemic.

Ivermectin has received a lot of attention as a potential treatment for Covid-19 including from celebrities such as podcast host Joe Rogan. Most evidence has shown it to be ineffective against Covid-19 or has relied on data of poor quality, infectious-disease researchers said. Public-health authorities and researchers have for months said the drug hasnít shown any benefit in treating the disease. Taking large doses of the drug is dangerous, the Food and Drug Administration has said.

The latest trial, of nearly 1,400 Covid-19 patients at risk of severe disease, is the largest to show that those who received ivermectin as a treatment didnít fare better than those who received a placebo.

ďThere was no indication that ivermectin is clinically useful,Ē said Edward Mills, one of the studyís lead researchers and a professor of health sciences at Canadaís McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario. Dr. Mills on Friday plans to present the findings, which have been accepted for publication in a major peer-reviewed medical journal, at a public forum sponsored by the National Institutes of Health.


Read more: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ivermectin-didnt-protect-people-from-covid-19-study-shows-11647602256



That, of course, is what Big Science WOULD say.....

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Reply Ivermectin didn't protect people from COVID-19, study shows (Original post)
brooklynite Mar 2022 OP
bluevoter4life Mar 2022 #1
bullimiami Mar 2022 #3
Runningdawg Mar 2022 #15
ck4829 Mar 2022 #2
keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #11
Mz Pip Mar 2022 #4
Aristus Mar 2022 #5
Ray Bruns Mar 2022 #7
paleotn Mar 2022 #6
NCjack Mar 2022 #8
IronLionZion Mar 2022 #9
discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #10
jmowreader Mar 2022 #22
discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #23
Ocelot II Mar 2022 #12
vlyons Mar 2022 #13
lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #14
louis-t Mar 2022 #35
Rebl2 Mar 2022 #16
lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #17
live love laugh Mar 2022 #18
Warpy Mar 2022 #19
krispos42 Mar 2022 #20
moriah Mar 2022 #21
Rebl2 Mar 2022 #24
brooklynite Mar 2022 #32
Rebl2 Mar 2022 #33
LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #25
Vinca Mar 2022 #26
Initech Mar 2022 #27
Jetheels Mar 2022 #28
lees1975 Mar 2022 #29
TheRickles Mar 2022 #30
sakabatou Mar 2022 #31
tonekat Mar 2022 #34
JCMach1 Mar 2022 #36
TheFarseer Mar 2022 #37

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:03 AM

1. *shocked Pikachu face* nt

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Response to bluevoter4life (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:05 AM

3. Yeah a big newsflash from the NoShit Dept.

Hereís an idea.

Why donít the flat earth crowd develop their own insurance and care network and do it their own way.

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Response to bullimiami (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:01 PM

15. They have. I get electronic spam and junk mail from them all the time.

I think the big one around here is Christian Health Care Network. Their insurance system works about as well as their social media apps. No one is buying.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:05 AM

2. "'Sample size', 'double blind', 'peer review', and reporting conflicts of interest are backdoors to

SOCIALISM. Do some RESEARCH, here's a Youtube video posted by some rando!"
-The right-wing rebuttal.

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:33 AM

11. Yeah! Do some RESEARCH.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:07 AM

4. It's all just part of

The Deep State.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:13 AM

5. I'm shocked.

This is my shocked face:

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Response to Aristus (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:25 AM

7. Me too. Well, not that shocked.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:14 AM

6. Think I'll slip this one into the "Well, NO!" file.

Then again, the "No Shit" folder may be more appropriate.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:28 AM

8. But, did the researchers follow the protocols published on the INTERNET?

Big science is never successful when testing alternative medicines. It always performs the tests to make them fail.

I test Ivermectin at home and it works! But Big Science tests it and it fails.! That is why you should not trust them.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:30 AM

9. Those researchers are in the pocket of big vaccine and big mask

real research is on videos shared on social media. That's why they call it "viral videos".

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:31 AM

10. re: Ivermectin didn't protect...

Don't you have to parallel that with some horse laxative and wash them down with bleach?

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 01:00 PM

22. Ivermectin has laxative action all by itself

And it would make sense that it does - if you are deworming your horse you want the worms on the ground as quickly as possible.

Which leads to the next question: do the antivaxers understand that viruses, worms and parasites are different things?

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #22)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 01:10 PM

23. IMO...

...in a tactical situation believing that the enemy of my enemy is my friend probably works okay as a short term strategy. However, viewing virology, diplomacy, politics and the rest of life as a tactical situation is a major mistake.

Just because someone may hate Democrats as you may, (and of course this is a hypothetical you), doesn't make their advice sound.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:36 AM

12. But at least they got rid of their tapeworms and fleas.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:50 AM

13. surprise surprise !!!

that's because it's a dewormer. I used it to deworm my alpacas and llamas. Well at least all the dead from covid had intestines free of worms when they died.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 11:56 AM

14. Good news.

I hope the MAGATs keep using it.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:45 AM

35. Well, they are all full of shit anyway

and probably needed it.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:16 PM

16. Well it's

a scientific study so they wonít believe it.

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:19 PM

17. More dead MAGAT voters.

OK.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:19 PM

18. What a wa$te.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:26 PM

19. No bnefit in treatment, either

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2789362

A smaller study offshore did show a statistically significant improvement in severe illness, but not enough to outweigh the risks of giving this drug to seriously ill people.

Still, the needle weenies howl for it. Just get the shot, fools, it's the only way to prevent severe illness from this bug.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:30 PM

20. Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Jesus, the toxic substances people will put into their bodies to avoid getting a vaccine are simply incredible.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 12:44 PM

21. I found out my shrink has been doing ivermectin and had done HCQ.

He said he'd also gotten the base two shots, but no boosters. I mean, I'm not surprised (he has a Jesusfish on his business card), but the man is OLD.... and contrary to the usual thing when that's on a business card, he's a decent shrink (well that and I come across as very square IRL so as long as I don't speak of religion the assumptions work in my favor).

He was the first to correlate some of my worst symptoms with different head meds to the fact they are generally tested on grown men and I wear kids shoes and consider pediatric dosing -- I just hope the fact I've been relatively stable on this regimen will pass over to whoever else manages my mental health when he retires and they see my records.

Makes me very glad I've stayed virtual with him since the pandemic started, though...

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 01:36 PM

24. I think in

KS they want to pass a law that requires doctors to give patients ivermectin if they request it when they have Covid. Real doctors are not happy about this of course. I would not be surprised to see some leave KS. over this idiocy.

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #24)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 07:38 PM

32. Nonsense; all they have to do is say prescribing it is against their sincerely held religious belief

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #32)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 08:08 PM

33. Good answer

Of course doctors take an oath to do no harm, but republicons would not accept that.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 02:33 PM

25. Who is surprised by this?

Only idiots/RWNJs believed that this treatment worked

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 02:50 PM

26. On the plus side, the ones who lived don't have worms.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 03:08 PM

27. I'm shocked, SHOCKED! Well... not that shocked.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 03:16 PM

28. "Thanks, but I'll do my own research". /s

 

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 03:31 PM

29. That will be good for hospitals

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 07:28 PM

30. Say what you will, but this study didn't follow the protocol of the doctors who found it effective.

An early start to ivermectin is the key, not after 8 days of symptoms (as in this study). And use the correct dose, for Pete's sake. These may sound like ridiculously petty objections, but why didn't the study just use the same protocol that so many doctors claim has been effective, and have done with it?

If you want to debunk ivermectin, then replicate the regimen that the proponents claim to be effective, and prove your point. IMO, and speaking as an MD, there are significant shortcomings in this study, of the sort that would call into question any study of any drug for any illness. It's not a joking matter.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Statement-on-Together-Trial-WSJ-Article-Mar-18-1.pdf

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 07:33 PM

31. Of course it didn't!

An anti-parasitic does NOT work against a virus!

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2022, 08:40 PM

34. I just bought the liquid version...

...because there's a fox with mange that I can't stand to see suffer that suns in my front lawn sometimes. I've gotten one dose into him as of a couple days ago by injecting the stuff in a big meatball. I put out two hardboiled eggs in shells for him today. Hope he finds them tomorrow.

When I lived in N.VA, a neighbor would do this with chicken legs for the local foxes who had mange.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2022, 11:41 AM

36. Even worse, the users will gain weight as they have now lost their 'natural' worm flora

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:04 PM

37. I point these kind of studies out to RWers

Who think that whoever is supressing Ivermectin because of whatever reason and they don't care. They simply declare that they weren't using Ivermectin right or at the right time or whatever. No facts will change their mind.

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