Ivermectin didn't protect people from COVID-19, study shows

[brooklynite]

Source: Marketwatch

Researchers testing repurposed drugs against Covid-19 found that ivermectin didn’t reduce hospital admissions, in the largest trial yet of the effect of the antiparasitic on the disease driving the pandemic.

Ivermectin has received a lot of attention as a potential treatment for Covid-19 including from celebrities such as podcast host Joe Rogan. Most evidence has shown it to be ineffective against Covid-19 or has relied on data of poor quality, infectious-disease researchers said. Public-health authorities and researchers have for months said the drug hasn’t shown any benefit in treating the disease. Taking large doses of the drug is dangerous, the Food and Drug Administration has said.

The latest trial, of nearly 1,400 Covid-19 patients at risk of severe disease, is the largest to show that those who received ivermectin as a treatment didn’t fare better than those who received a placebo.

“There was no indication that ivermectin is clinically useful,” said Edward Mills, one of the study’s lead researchers and a professor of health sciences at Canada’s McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario. Dr. Mills on Friday plans to present the findings, which have been accepted for publication in a major peer-reviewed medical journal, at a public forum sponsored by the National Institutes of Health.

Read more: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ivermectin-didnt-protect-people-from-covid-19-study-shows-11647602256

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That, of course, is what Big Science WOULD say.....

[bluevoter4life]

1. *shocked Pikachu face* nt

[bullimiami]

3. Yeah a big newsflash from the NoShit Dept.

Here’s an idea.

Why don’t the flat earth crowd develop their own insurance and care network and do it their own way.

[Runningdawg]

15. They have. I get electronic spam and junk mail from them all the time.

I think the big one around here is Christian Health Care Network. Their insurance system works about as well as their social media apps. No one is buying.

[ck4829]

2. "'Sample size', 'double blind', 'peer review', and reporting conflicts of interest are backdoors to

SOCIALISM. Do some RESEARCH, here's a Youtube video posted by some rando!"
-The right-wing rebuttal.

[keithbvadu2]

11. Yeah! Do some RESEARCH.

[Mz Pip]

4. It's all just part of

The Deep State.

[Aristus]

5. I'm shocked.

This is my shocked face:

[Ray Bruns]

7. Me too. Well, not that shocked.

[paleotn]

6. Think I'll slip this one into the "Well, NO!" file.

Then again, the "No Shit" folder may be more appropriate.

[NCjack]

8. But, did the researchers follow the protocols published on the INTERNET?

Big science is never successful when testing alternative medicines. It always performs the tests to make them fail.

I test Ivermectin at home and it works! But Big Science tests it and it fails.! That is why you should not trust them.

[IronLionZion]

9. Those researchers are in the pocket of big vaccine and big mask

real research is on videos shared on social media. That's why they call it "viral videos".

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

10. re: Ivermectin didn't protect...

Don't you have to parallel that with some horse laxative and wash them down with bleach?

[jmowreader]

22. Ivermectin has laxative action all by itself

And it would make sense that it does - if you are deworming your horse you want the worms on the ground as quickly as possible.

Which leads to the next question: do the antivaxers understand that viruses, worms and parasites are different things?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

23. IMO...

...in a tactical situation believing that the enemy of my enemy is my friend probably works okay as a short term strategy. However, viewing virology, diplomacy, politics and the rest of life as a tactical situation is a major mistake.

Just because someone may hate Democrats as you may, (and of course this is a hypothetical you), doesn't make their advice sound.

[Ocelot II]

12. But at least they got rid of their tapeworms and fleas.

[vlyons]

13. surprise surprise !!!

that's because it's a dewormer. I used it to deworm my alpacas and llamas. Well at least all the dead from covid had intestines free of worms when they died.

[lagomorph777]

14. Good news.

I hope the MAGATs keep using it.

[louis-t]

35. Well, they are all full of shit anyway

and probably needed it.

[Rebl2]

16. Well it's

a scientific study so they won’t believe it.

[lagomorph777]

17. More dead MAGAT voters.

OK.

[live love laugh]

18. What a wa$te.

[Warpy]

19. No bnefit in treatment, either

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2789362

A smaller study offshore did show a statistically significant improvement in severe illness, but not enough to outweigh the risks of giving this drug to seriously ill people.

Still, the needle weenies howl for it. Just get the shot, fools, it's the only way to prevent severe illness from this bug.

[krispos42]

20. Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Jesus, the toxic substances people will put into their bodies to avoid getting a vaccine are simply incredible.

[moriah]

21. I found out my shrink has been doing ivermectin and had done HCQ.

He said he'd also gotten the base two shots, but no boosters. I mean, I'm not surprised (he has a Jesusfish on his business card), but the man is OLD.... and contrary to the usual thing when that's on a business card, he's a decent shrink (well that and I come across as very square IRL so as long as I don't speak of religion the assumptions work in my favor).

He was the first to correlate some of my worst symptoms with different head meds to the fact they are generally tested on grown men and I wear kids shoes and consider pediatric dosing -- I just hope the fact I've been relatively stable on this regimen will pass over to whoever else manages my mental health when he retires and they see my records.

Makes me very glad I've stayed virtual with him since the pandemic started, though...

[Rebl2]

24. I think in

KS they want to pass a law that requires doctors to give patients ivermectin if they request it when they have Covid. Real doctors are not happy about this of course. I would not be surprised to see some leave KS. over this idiocy.

[brooklynite]

32. Nonsense; all they have to do is say prescribing it is against their sincerely held religious belief

[Rebl2]

33. Good answer

Of course doctors take an oath to do no harm, but republicons would not accept that.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

25. Who is surprised by this?

Only idiots/RWNJs believed that this treatment worked

[Vinca]

26. On the plus side, the ones who lived don't have worms.

[Initech]

27. I'm shocked, SHOCKED! Well... not that shocked.

[Jetheels]

28. "Thanks, but I'll do my own research". /s

[lees1975]

29. That will be good for hospitals

being inundated by stupid, ignorant people demanding patients they know be given ivermectin.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/coronavirus/2021/9/13/22671625/veronica-wolski-dies-covid-qanon-ivermectin-amita-hospital-protests-expressway-overpass-banners

[TheRickles]

30. Say what you will, but this study didn't follow the protocol of the doctors who found it effective.

An early start to ivermectin is the key, not after 8 days of symptoms (as in this study). And use the correct dose, for Pete's sake. These may sound like ridiculously petty objections, but why didn't the study just use the same protocol that so many doctors claim has been effective, and have done with it?

If you want to debunk ivermectin, then replicate the regimen that the proponents claim to be effective, and prove your point. IMO, and speaking as an MD, there are significant shortcomings in this study, of the sort that would call into question any study of any drug for any illness. It's not a joking matter.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Statement-on-Together-Trial-WSJ-Article-Mar-18-1.pdf

[sakabatou]

31. Of course it didn't!

An anti-parasitic does NOT work against a virus!

[tonekat]

34. I just bought the liquid version...

...because there's a fox with mange that I can't stand to see suffer that suns in my front lawn sometimes. I've gotten one dose into him as of a couple days ago by injecting the stuff in a big meatball. I put out two hardboiled eggs in shells for him today. Hope he finds them tomorrow.

When I lived in N.VA, a neighbor would do this with chicken legs for the local foxes who had mange.

[JCMach1]

36. Even worse, the users will gain weight as they have now lost their 'natural' worm flora

[TheFarseer]

37. I point these kind of studies out to RWers

Who think that whoever is supressing Ivermectin because of whatever reason and they don't care. They simply declare that they weren't using Ivermectin right or at the right time or whatever. No facts will change their mind.