Scoop: Manchin outlines BBB deal requirements

[Calista241]

Source: Axios

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) told a group of climate activists and energy executives he's open to supporting revised Build Back Better legislation narrowly addressing three issues: climate change, prescription drug prices and deficit reduction.

Why it matters: Manchin’s private comments during a closed-door dinner Monday are a clear indication he’s serious about returning to the negotiating table, but for a much smaller version of President Biden's initial $3.5 trillion proposal, people familiar with the matter tell Axios.

His comments at the closed-door dinner, hosted by the American Clean Power Association, the trade association for the renewable energy industry, are consistent with conversations Manchin has had with Senate colleagues.

In those informal talks, he's outlined a deal that includes roughly $500 billion for climate and $1 trillion in new revenue.

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The bottom line: Any skinnier Build Back Better legislation still faces numerous hurdles.

They include agreement from Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) on the revenue side, and acceptance from progressives that $550 billion on energy and climate is the only deal they'll get.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/manchin-outlines-bbb-deal-requirements-723696b5-c602-42ef-907c-fcf08bab96f6.html

[Auggie]

1. I don't believe anything Manchin says at this point

Show me the vote

[Ray Bruns]

18. I wouldn't trust Manchin any further than I could throw him.

[Rebl2]

19. Me either

How many times has he said he would vote for this bill when things were changed to suit HIM, then he voted against it or changed his mind before the vote.

[Tony_FLADEM]

2. He Just Wants Back in the Spotlight

I don't believe anything he says.

[Jon King]

5. So true, he was the man there for a while.

Reporters trailing him and tons of TV spots. He absolutely loved that spotlight.

[BlueIdaho]

7. You are so right.

He’s blown any credibility he ever had. I wouldn’t even waste any time talking to him.

Time to stop feeding his festering ego.

[Mr.Bill]

3. Looks to me like he's leveraging

his Supreme Court vote, or at least testing the waters.

[StevieM]

12. I don't think so.

The two votes are separate. He can kill either one if he wants to. He hasn't indicated that he will torpedo KJB. What happens with BBB is another matter altogether.

[jalan48]

4. If he can stall a few more months it will be too close to the election to make big decisions.

[FloridaBlues]

6. Let's see if he is serious and start the ball rolling . Some achievements are better than nothing

They can add to it after we keep the congress and senate.
Let’s see what he does.

[Autumn]

8. He isn't serious and no, we can not fix it later. We have seen that movie before. nt

[Deminpenn]

9. Then he should direct his staff to write

the bill with the language he supports.

[Mawspam2]

10. This is what Two-Faced Joe said...

..."at the closed-door dinner, hosted by the American Clean Power Association".

What will he say at the next Coal Industry pep rally?

Eff that guy!

[BradAllison]

11. "No free shit!!!!"

Amiright, Senator Mansion?

[StevieM]

13. It is unbelievable that they are not even talking about money for daycare.

Roe vs. Wade is about to be overturned and they are not allocating money for daycare. This is insane.

[riversedge]

17. I feel down about this bill. It will be skinny if anything without the human infrastructure Biden

and Dems want. damn

[Bettie]

22. That's because a whole bunch of right wingers

think that all women should be at home taking care of babies and 'tending to' their man's "needs".

Shoes are optional in cold climates.

[StevieM]

23. It's more than that.

They want absolutely no sex outside of heterosexual marriage. And for EVERY SINGLE CHILD born out of wedlock to be given up for adoption.

[Bettie]

24. Yeah, that too

my dogs were barking, so I just hit submit.

Plus, thinking too much about all what they want our society to be is fucking depressing!

Lest we forget, there are currently state legislatures debating whether women who terminate pregnancies should be executed. But, they have no intention of helping women who are forced to have children they neither want nor can afford.

[Fiendish Thingy]

14. $500 billion on climate is about what was in the last draft BBB before Manchin killed it

This proposal strips everything else besides prescription drug funding out of the bill.

Make Manchin write the bill, and bring it to the floor for a vote. Make Sinema take a stand on the record.

Then, let’s see if the house will pass it.

[SouthernDem4ever]

15. Anything else we can do for you Joe? Wipe your butt too?

You narcissistic obstructionist.

[brush]

16. As soon as his requirments are met he'll move the goal post again.

Screw him.

[myohmy2]

20. ha ha ha...

...this is a joke?...right?

...we'll lose in November and he will have fulfilled his mission...

...it's amazing what we call a Democrat today...

...good luck...

[Bettie]

21. Wow, are there actually people who believe

a single word Manchin says about BBB. It is clear he has no intention of ever voting for any of it, unless and until it is reduced to a package of cash for the fossil fuel industry and some form of punitive measure for those he deems unworthy (poor people).

We need to get more senators to make him irrelevant.