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Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:15 PM

Sen. Mitt Romney suggests he'd back cutting retirement benefits for younger Americans

Source: Business Insider

Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah suggested that he'd favor cutting retirement benefits for younger Americans in a bid to stabilize safety net programs.

"If we're ever going to get a handle on our debt, we're gonna have to find a way to either increase revenue, which I don't favor, or find a way to adjust our long-term benefits not for current retirees," he said at a Senate Budget Committee hearing on Wednesday, seemingly ruling out any tax hikes

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/mitt-romney-retirement-benefits-for-younger-americans-2022-3



I guess Fraudster Rick Scott has someone else in his corner to willingly help decimate the two working safety nets for senior Americans. But I guess we already knew this about 47% Mitt.

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Reply Sen. Mitt Romney suggests he'd back cutting retirement benefits for younger Americans (Original post)
NHvet Mar 2022 OP
Autumn Mar 2022 #1
Rebl2 Mar 2022 #6
NCjack Mar 2022 #20
brush Apr 2022 #59
Autumn Apr 2022 #65
Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #60
Maine Abu El Banat Mar 2022 #2
Marthe48 Mar 2022 #24
Rebl2 Mar 2022 #3
jfz9580m Apr 2022 #57
Historic NY Mar 2022 #4
cstanleytech Mar 2022 #25
paleotn Mar 2022 #40
notinkansas Apr 2022 #64
inthewind21 Apr 2022 #68
Javaman Mar 2022 #5
NCjack Mar 2022 #22
yaesu Mar 2022 #7
Midnight Writer Mar 2022 #8
yonder Mar 2022 #26
paleotn Mar 2022 #41
NHvet Mar 2022 #9
DENVERPOPS Mar 2022 #10
MarcA Mar 2022 #18
DENVERPOPS Mar 2022 #49
inthewind21 Apr 2022 #69
Solly Mack Mar 2022 #11
Diamond_Dog Mar 2022 #12
blue sky at night Mar 2022 #13
MarcA Mar 2022 #14
twodogsbarking Mar 2022 #19
RainCaster Mar 2022 #15
twodogsbarking Mar 2022 #16
The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #17
turbinetree Mar 2022 #21
TheRealNorth Mar 2022 #23
TheRealNorth Mar 2022 #27
turbinetree Mar 2022 #36
keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #28
TheRealNorth Mar 2022 #29
mahina Mar 2022 #30
Coventina Mar 2022 #31
darosky Mar 2022 #32
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lastlib Apr 2022 #56
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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:17 PM

1. I support cutting his retirement to zero. He's done nothing to deserve one. Fuck Romney.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:20 PM

6. AGREED!

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Response to Autumn (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:38 PM

20. It is time to eliminate the wealth categories of Billionaire$ and above. Place taxes on them

and within a few years, reduce them to Millionaire$.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 05:24 AM

59. Romney, at times called the sensible republican...

makes litte sense here.

Talk about failing to read the room.

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Response to brush (Reply #59)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 09:46 AM

65. Sensible republicans and decent republican are two things that do not exist. They are unicorns.

Anyone looking for any of those are on a fools errand.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 05:26 AM

60. +1000

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:18 PM

2. What businessman

Says he doesn't want to increase revenue?

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Response to Maine Abu El Banat (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:44 PM

24. Rich businessmen who get their cut regaerdless?

I don't think romney is a businessman. I think he spots vulnerable businesses he can take apart for his own gain, and damn everyone who put time, effort or money into the business on his chopping block.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:19 PM

3. Says the

guy who is a multi millionaire

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:19 PM

4. Cuttting the Trillion dollar tax cut and raising the cap on Social Security are ways to keep it on t

track. Telling a younger person they have to contribute but won't get much in the end, isn't an incentive to work on the table.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:48 PM

25. Another thing that might help people is increasing corporate taxes to 60%.

However corporations can lower their taxes if they meet certain criteria.
#1 Corporate headquarters located inside the US = 5% lower taxes.
#2 Linking their taxes to the number of employees they have worldwide to the number of employees they have inside the US. The larger the workforce and the larger the % that are here inside the US they get get a lower tax rate with the lowest being 40%.
#3 If they reach the 40% that then kicks in potential access to the last tax break which is linked to the number of employees they have here inside the US as well as the number of them that earn more than 300% over the federal poverty level which is to be set by the General Accounting Office every year with zero ability under law for the House or President to interfere with.
If say a corporation with 6000 people worldwide has 80% of them here inside the US the corporation can get a progressively lower tax rate with the lowest being 0% but they would have to pay all of those 80% more than 300% over the federal poverty level.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:04 PM

40. +1000

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 09:19 AM

64. Exactly. Problem solved!

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 01:46 PM

68. Don't raise the cap

Eliminate it altogether.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:19 PM

5. ...

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Response to Javaman (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:41 PM

22. Look at his face -- he now has deduced that Trump is stomping him.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:21 PM

7. rummy needs to back the rich paying their share of SS but like all fascists he likes to rob the poor

to give to the rich

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:21 PM

8. I thought the supply-side tax cuts were going to increase revenues through economic growth.

Whatever happened to that fairy tale?

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:50 PM

26. Good question and thread winner.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:08 PM

41. Oh, now that's a Laffer....

The most aptly named economic hypothesis in history. I like to call it the ass curve because that's were Laffer pulled it out of...his ass.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:23 PM

9. This the only thing that I have in common with those trumpers carrying signs saying

"KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY SS AND MEDICARE!! I PAID FOR THEM AND EARNED THEM!!"

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:23 PM

10. Reminds me of a workers strike

at Safeway a decade ago..............

The negotiations with these striking workers including that they would leave the existing workers wages the same, but it required the existing workers to agree that all future hires could be at a much lower rate of pay..........

AND THE EXISTING WORKERS SIGNED THAT LOWER RATE OF PAY CONTRACT FOR ALL NEW HIRES....................

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:35 PM

18. Divide and Conquer. n/t

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Response to MarcA (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:23 PM

49. More Like:

Got mine, screw you...........

Of course the only reason the guys at the higher rate, got that higher rate, was because the workers before him refused to sell out him and the other new hires.......

And then, of course, there are the companies where workers don't have to join the union, but get to enjoy the wages and fringe that the Union workers fought for and won.......Is that fucked, or what.........

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 01:48 PM

69. Way

To many who are willing to do that. Some appear on this very site on a regular basis.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:27 PM

11. Of course he does.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:28 PM

12. I suppose next he will say

“ask your parents for it”

Doesn’t everyone have a trust fund set up for their future by Mummy and Father?

Yeesh this guy is clueless about life in the real world!

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:30 PM

13. The only thing these idiots are good at:

Making young people hate them even more than yesterday...

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:31 PM

14. Part of end goal of Oligarchs owning everything and everyone.

Keep the masses uneducated, poor, in debt and for the women, pregnant.
Of course, the Oligarchs are the truly useless eaters and breathers.
Support a democratic state and government and organize with your friends
and families.

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Response to MarcA (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:36 PM

19. If they can work and be poor they will be used to it when they retire.

Thanks Mitt.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:33 PM

15. That should make Mitt very popular with the post-boomers

GOTV people- these people need to be retired.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:35 PM

16. Translation. I want money for being stupid too.

I've been practicing hard and I am as stupid as I can get, maybe.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:35 PM

17. FU Mitt you dick.

Raise taxes on the rich.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:38 PM

21. Yep what do you call a "guy" sitting in the position of power BAIN CAPITAL....

the same jerk that sent jobs overseas so the middle class would not have any money coming in and then blaming them for whining while he was swimming at his 5 level home in California .....but he can sit in that Washington office and take taxpayers checks from the people that he wants to fuck over......they usually call that a psychopath.......

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:43 PM

23. Why wait. Mittens?

Let's cut now. What, you don't want to lose the support of the Baby Boomers and Gen X'rs that will soon to be retiring?

Well then, fuck you. We have known for 20 years this was coming. You didn't want to increase SSI revenues by either taxing a higher percentage or increasing the income cap that SSI is taxed. So instead, you and the fucking Republicans want to screw young people even more.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #23)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:54 PM

27. One more thought....

Have they recalculated social security to take into account the number of elderly that Covid took out?

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #23)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 05:02 PM

36. And what really classic is that they run around being "compassionate conservatives "

and that BS moniker.....

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:54 PM

28. 'I got mine. Screw you.'

'I got mine. Screw you.'

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #28)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:55 PM

29. That should be the GOP motto.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:56 PM

30. OR, Remove the cap so that high income people pay fica like the rest of us.

At least lift the cap if not remove it completely. That would take a huge step towards solving the problems and it wouldn’t further alienate young people

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:11 PM

31. Coventina suggests oiling up a few guillotines.

DUer Coventina of Arizona suggested that she'd favor preparing some guillotines for possible service.

"The Billionaires of this country have been shown time and again that they are not paying their fair share into this country. We're gonna have to find a way to encourage these parasites to do the right thing, and asking nicely doesn't seem to be working. I'm wondering why it's only called 'class warfare' when the poor fight back?" she said upon reading the latest attempt from the Billionaire Romney to point the finger of blame at hardworking, actual tax-paying citizens.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:15 PM

32. 47%

 

Some things never change.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:44 PM

33. "Keep my retirement benefits' name out of your fucking mouth!"

Raise the cap, you greasy-haired dolt.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:47 PM

34. Remove the SS cap. Minimum corp rate. Minimum rate for super rich. VAT tax.

And CUT SPENDING.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:50 PM

35. Social Security comes from Social Security taxes not from regular taxes.

He needs to keep his scummy hands off our Social Security.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 05:15 PM

37. First the GOP kills older Americans during COVID

telling them to sacrifice themselves for their grandkids or whatever for the economy. Now they screw the grandkids.

The pro-life party might have fewer voters this election year and they want to lose young people. Super idea

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 05:48 PM

38. Social Security Doesn't Add One Goddamned Dime...

To the debt. SS is funded through a completely separate tax mechanism, as is Medicare. RMoney is lying through his teeth! Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.🤬

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 05:55 PM

39. As Unions have declined retirement benefits have gone away and...............

401k's are "fake retirements"

I told my brother in law that he should get no comfort from his 401K. It is only "gravy".

The threat of a union got me a defined benefit pension plan. THE THREAT!

Romney is a thief!

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:12 PM

42. No.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:23 PM

43. Cut our now $813 billion in "defense" spending

Cut it in half easily and we still spend way more than any other nation. This couple with taxing the wealthy as they should be taxed would erase the deficit over night and begin on paying down our debt. There is no reason to go after the middle and lower classes

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Response to Curtis (Reply #43)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:45 PM

50. +1 n/t

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Response to Curtis (Reply #43)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 12:55 PM

67. Absolutely

Although thanks to Putin the DOD is set for another decade of increased budgets.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:23 PM

44. The issue is income inequality

When CEOs and other executives weren't making THOUSANDS of times the average worker, Social Security worked fine as long as 90% of wages were taxed. Because of the shrinking middle class and more and more $$$ going to people making over $400K, only about 84 % of wages are subject to SS taxes, and it's getting worse.

Personally, I like the donut hole idea that some have proposed. Make first cap $150K, then leave an untaxed window up to $500K. Then the wages over $500K would be subject to Social Security taxes. That untaxed window could be adjusted as needed, to hit the magic 90% mark. Hell, they might even be able to raise benefits more than the ridiculous COLAs they have now. SS would be solvent in perpetuity.

What idiots, including Romney, forget is that Social Security payments go straight back into the economy. Lowering payments HURTS the economy overall, and that's bad for everyone!

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:38 PM

45. "adjust our long-term benefits"

Like the way Elizabeth had Mary Queen of Scots' height "adjusted"?

Even a once-in-a-blue-moon-right Republican is still a d-bag Republican.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:46 PM

46. Why don't we stuff Mitt in a dog crate instead?

And strap him to the roof of a moving vehicle.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:02 PM

47. How does he define "younger Americans." Last time this floated, younger was 55 years old . . .

and below. How tragic would that be? That people ten years from collecting SS be told their share in it will be reduced since they have "time to make alternate investments to make up for the loss"?

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:04 PM

48. I'd like to think this would get the young voters out

And voting the straight Democratic ticket. I like to dream.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 09:09 PM

51. Selfishness, one of the cornerstones of the repug (fascist) party. nt

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Thu Mar 31, 2022, 10:06 PM

53. No thanks, Mitt!

No thanks, Mitt, our young people have already been screwed over economically enough!!! Expensive college, unemployment, cheap wages, high debt for college and then the pandemic!!!!!

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 10:24 PM

54. Good luck with that Mitt. Many of them can read, and many of them vote.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 11:10 PM

55. This is so GOP...

“…we're gonna have to find a way to…increase revenue, which I don't favor…”

Of course you don’t. You’d rather borrow and let the people too young to vote for you get hammered.

We DON’T have a tax problem. We have a revenue problem.
Republicans have made taxes, progressive taxes, a dirty word.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 12:30 AM

56. Of course you would, Mittens....

Your financial future is secure, and you don't give a flying f*ck about anyone lower on the economic ladder. And you sure as h*** don't want anybody cutting into your pie to help someone else whose future isn't so secure. GFY, Mittens. With a pitchfork.

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Response to lastlib (Reply #56)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 03:03 AM

58. ...

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 06:35 AM

61. Tell you what, Senator 47%...

It wouldn't even be a concept if you and your ilk actually fucking paid YOUR fair share of taxes.

Social programs are what taxes are for, idiot.

Fuck you, pay some fucking taxes.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 07:03 AM

62. We need to start drug testing Republicans!

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 08:45 AM

63. Yes, I had read that a $500,000 SS cap would fund SS for 20+ more years. Then, if the cap was...

...unlimited (ergo, in the millions) SS would NEVER run out of money.

Heck, even a Forbes economist says lets do it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2021/12/31/raise-the-social-security-capnow-the-rich-pay-through-new-year-days-brunch/?sh=6d139427ea95

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 10:00 AM

66. Well, if those young people on Twitter don't get their student loans forgiven

They've threatened to stop paying into SS to get back at the "boomers" who've ruined their lives.

Well, if they want to get back at the "boomers", all they have to do is either not vote at all or vote for the GOP. Once in power, the GOP will lay waste to SS...and damn near everything else we've accomplished.

But hey, they got back at the boomers.

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Response to Moebym (Reply #66)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 01:58 PM

70. What exactly

Did boomers accomplish? I know what their parents, "the greatest generation" did but not finding much on accomplishments other than reaping the benefits bestowed by their parents and then destroying the same for their children.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 02:08 PM

71. Strict Means-Testing

For all retired Senator Retirement benefits.

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Response to NHvet (Original post)

Fri Apr 1, 2022, 03:18 PM

72. Let's pass a "free to kick puppys" and "push down old lady's down" Bill also.

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