Biden: Putin should face war crimes trial for Bucha
Source: AP
WASHINGTON (AP) President Joe Biden on Monday called for war crimes trial against Russia President Vladimir Putin and said hed seek more sanctions after reported atrocities in Ukraine.
You saw what happened in Bucha, Biden said. He added that Putin is a war criminal
Bidens comments to reporters came after Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy visited Bucha, one of the towns surrounding Kyiv where Ukrainian officials say the bodies of civilians have been found. Zelenskyy called the Russian actions genocide and called for the West to apply tougher sanctions against Russia.
The bodies of 410 civilians have been removed from Kyiv-area towns that were recently retaken from Russian forces, Ukraines prosecutor-general, Iryna Venediktova, said. Associated Press journalists saw the bodies of at least 21 people in various spots around Bucha, northwest of the capital.
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President Biden is 100% correct!
OLDMDDEM
(1,585 posts)the rest of the world (NATO) should contact the oligarchs and tell them that if you give us Putin we will ease most of the sanctions on you.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)wryter2000
(46,206 posts)He really needs to be taken down from within. I wish his generals would stop obeying his orders. Do they want to face what the Nazi's did after this war?
EndlessWire
(6,622 posts)And, making an offer to Russian fat cats won't change a thing, since they are probably complicit. They probably already held the lottery carving up Ukraine.
H2O Man
(73,791 posts)KPN
(15,697 posts)week ago when he said Putin must go. Im in agreement though. There are some principles that I cannot compromise, no matter the cost. The horrendous atrocities being carried out by Russian troops against Ukrainian civilians is probably highest among violated principles that I simply do not have it in me to bend on. Putin sent those troop into Ukraine, he created this war and issued the order to invade and take down the Ukrainian government. The buck stops with him.
Im with Joe. Putin is a war criminal. Im glad and proud that Joe said so.
samsingh
(17,620 posts)xocetaceans
(3,876 posts)n/t
KS Toronado
(17,618 posts)Probably rules against doing a "Go-Fund-Me" page for this sort of idea.
If there isn't I'd do it.
Ishoutandscream2
(6,664 posts)You're absolutely right!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,757 posts)musclecar6
(1,694 posts)A fantasy perfect world, he would be turned loose on the main street of Bucha, and see how long he makes it before there were no pieces left of him larger than say, a ruble.
Hiawatha Pete
(1,815 posts)Stuart G
(38,480 posts)You didn't know? Read ...Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee Brown" (about murder of Native Americans....
..........in 1800s)
One of the most horrible & sad books that I have ever read.
.........warning: if you read it, you will ....NEVER FORGET IT...NEVER!!........................................
most ironic part of the story is .....that they even named a town after the leader of the massacre at Wounded Knee...John Evens..
FakeNoose
(33,056 posts)I've also read "The Decline and Fall of the Third Reich," another depressingly horrible book. I've read "The Killing Fields," and others.
There has to be a time when massacres and wanton human butchery comes to an end. There has to be a time when the good and moral people stand up to the evil and say "Never again!" Putin cannot be allowed to continue on this path.
BamaRefugee
(3,488 posts)strip clubs.
'Murica!
maxsolomon
(33,516 posts)Leaders rarely if ever face consequences for their actions, and Putin will never face the ICC.
To wit: Iraq II was a War Crime as surely as Ukraine is.
Evolve Dammit
(16,900 posts)Magoo48
(4,741 posts)Nevertheless, in light of our nations internal and international history, it is prudent to let other nations raise the loudest voices about war crimes. We must continue working hard on humanitarian supply chain assistance, defensive weapons acquisitions, and intelligence gathering for Ukraine. I say this because, IMO we have no moral high ground to shout from.
FarPoint
(12,511 posts)WW 2....just primarily the Jews overall....Why is Israel not in national outrage? Maybe they are and I am not learning of their position...
I am thoroughly outraged.... Over Putin and I believe hired mercenaries who need blood and murder as part of their diet.
EndlessWire
(6,622 posts)Hire some Somali pirates, join up some Irish Fishermen, and wipe out the Black Sea fleet.
bhikkhu
(10,730 posts)I think it would be incredibly naive to think there isn't much worse to come. In Bucha, from what I've read, anything less than submission was met with a bullet in the head. In Eastern Ukraine, if they want to take it and govern, I'd expect that to be done much more systematically.
And then if you can see something like that coming, wouldn't it be good to do something to avert it? I'd like to see Ukraine supplied with Exocets, so that the Russian navy could find the bottom of the ocean somewhere. And better anti-aircraft defenses, and better everything, really. They are seriously fighting the war right now so that Europe doesn't have to. But if they lose it just gets worse. Autocracy spreads like cancer, as we've seen.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Biden is 1,000% correct, and its damn refreshing to hear somebody plainly speak the truth.
Thank you, sir.
BamaRefugee
(3,488 posts)who are living quite comfortably , with big government pensions, right here in the good old USA.
Then we'd have the bona fides to go after others.
dalton99a
(81,834 posts)EndlessWire
(6,622 posts)and no hesitation. IMO, we should not reach back into our history and fail to speak up just because our ancestors did something really bad. We know right from wrong. The way to correct mistakes is to move forward and don't repeat the mistakes.
The world sat and watched Hitler do unspeakable things. Here we are, sitting and watching. Yeah, we have given military gear and sanctions, and that is NOT A SMALL gesture, not by far. But, we have to do more. You feel it, I feel it, the UN feels it.
The world is distracted from some really heavy problems right now, because of Putin and his damned territory expansion. KICK HIS ASS OUT OF UKRAINE, all of Ukraine, and whatever Moldova wants back, and that sliver of Georgia they took. Putin will be lucky if we don't decide to just eff it and go all the way to Moscow. Then, he can be sailing on a yacht somewhere wondering what port he can make.
Call for indictments in the Hague and the ICC and declare him a war criminal. That is the next step, along with suspension from the UN. When we are treated to the horrible spectacle of yet another city where civilians have been slaughtered after capture, we will not be able to stand ourselves if we do not DO SOMETHING. Do it now.
Our President speaks the truth. Zelensky speaks the truth. This was a war of choice for Putin. It is now becoming a war of choice for Russia.
You know, Russia isn't the only problem that Biden is handling right now. He is a lot tougher than he ever appeared to be. How lucky we are that we elected him. And, Kamala! We can't let them down by losing at Midterms. It is Spring now. Time to saddle up and beat the GOP!