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BlueWavePsych

(3,444 posts)
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 05:52 PM Apr 2022

Kremlin says Russia has suffered 'significant losses' in Ukraine

Source: Reuters

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Thursday that Russia had sustained "significant losses" in Ukraine, which its troops entered on Feb. 24 in what it calls a "special military operation".

Russia's defence ministry said on March 25, its most recent update, that 1,351 Russian soldiers had been killed since the start of the campaign, and 3,825 had been wounded.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said two days later that at least 10,000 Russian soldiers had probably been killed.

"We have significant losses of troops," Peskov told the British channel Sky News in an interview, "and it's a huge tragedy for us."

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-says-russia-has-suffered-significant-losses-ukraine-2022-04-07/





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Kremlin says Russia has suffered 'significant losses' in Ukraine (Original Post) BlueWavePsych Apr 2022 OP
OK, now what? qwlauren35 Apr 2022 #1
Wars are fought by the young Warpy Apr 2022 #12
Putin will just send in more Chechen murderers and rapists, he don't care about body counts Shanti Shanti Shanti Apr 2022 #22
If they admited that many, ya know it's a lot more. brush Apr 2022 #2
The rule of thumb with China is 10X. I wonder if Russia is the same? (NT) Otto_Harper Apr 2022 #3
The guesstimates I've seen range from 7000 to 10,000. Warpy Apr 2022 #15
There are lots of me ms, wives, girlfriends, and grandmas who will calimary Apr 2022 #21
a while back the estimates were 15k kia, 30k mia/injured/captured/deserted... getagrip_already Apr 2022 #10
Poor war criminals COL Mustard Apr 2022 #16
Truth. Russia has lost at least a generation in terms of joining the modern world. CaptainTruth Apr 2022 #4
Right. Putin is acting like it's the '50s when Kruschchev rolled... brush Apr 2022 #7
Well said. It's all they've ever known: Tsars, dictators, and despots. peppertree Apr 2022 #14
Gorbachev said a few years ago: "It seems as if the world is preparing for war." He knew it was Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #19
I remember. He was a formidable, sophisticated... brush Apr 2022 #24
And 100s of thousands of their brightest have fled the country, which will slow them more. oldsoftie Apr 2022 #17
That's an excellent point that I think is often missed. CaptainTruth Apr 2022 #20
Russia's loss. The west will benefit. Maybe that's why... brush Apr 2022 #25
They will play that clip to PROVE that 'Ukrainian Nazis' r evil alittlelark Apr 2022 #5
How Could They Be Doing So Poorly With Such Well-Trained Professionals? smb Apr 2022 #6
yeah but was it broadcast to people IN Russia? nt msongs Apr 2022 #8
So dead Russian soldiers NOT fake, Ukraine civilian bodies ARE fake. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2022 #9
No Mercy, No Sympathy. BlueIdaho Apr 2022 #11
Putin is changing his tactics. Aussie105 Apr 2022 #13
And the WORLD must help UKR rebuild oldsoftie Apr 2022 #18
We helped Germany and Japan and they were our enemies. marie999 Apr 2022 #23

qwlauren35

(6,309 posts)
1. OK, now what?
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 05:56 PM
Apr 2022

Putin knows he's losing.

It's possible that this will actually make Russian news.

Are Russian men and women still going to line up to enlist, or be drafted?

Are they still going to buy into the madness?

Warpy

(114,667 posts)
12. Wars are fought by the young
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 07:22 PM
Apr 2022

and the young, especially in towns and cities, were against this one. The difference> Unlike their elders, they were online. They'd watched videos from Ukraine, knew people in Ukraine online. They thought Putin was totally out to lunch with his talk about Ukraine overrun by Nazis, something that ended before he was born.

They'll have to be conscripted. Once conscripted, they'll be typically unenthusiastic about shooting people who look like their parents and grandparents for the crime of defending their homes.

Their parents and grandparents will be enthusiastically pro war. I feel sorry for the kids. I know just what they're going through. I'm an old boomer who suffered through the sheer idiocy of the Vietnam War.

Warpy

(114,667 posts)
15. The guesstimates I've seen range from 7000 to 10,000.
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 07:29 PM
Apr 2022

I think both are likely conservative.

10,000 dead in a month would have gotten us out of any stupid war this country has been in over the last 77 years, and we've generally had about twice Russia's population.

It seems the Putin regime is stonewalling families who want to know why their texts have gone unanswered for days, weeks, over a month. I just wonder how much longer that is going to work.

calimary

(90,775 posts)
21. There are lots of me ms, wives, girlfriends, and grandmas who will
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:42 AM
Apr 2022

Last edited Fri Apr 8, 2022, 02:35 AM - Edit history (1)

start asking questions. Maybe just a few to start. But the longer this drags on and their loved ones don’t return home, I’d guess the questions are going to become all-encompassing, and deafening.

And after awhile, Vlad won’t be able to dance his way around it. I hope he doesn’t start taking it out on those waiting in an impossible and expanding void.

I know I’d want the truth if I hadn’t heard from my son or husband in awhile! Not sure what, if any, recourse they have, though. But Dear God, being mired in that - for untold stretches of time - with no answers and no one to turn to…

A VERY “special” place down in the bowels of Hell awaits Vlad the Instigator, methinks.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
10. a while back the estimates were 15k kia, 30k mia/injured/captured/deserted...
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 06:58 PM
Apr 2022

It's probably twice that now.

90k out of action is almost 2/3'rds of what they started with.

Poor boobalahs.

COL Mustard

(8,386 posts)
16. Poor war criminals
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 08:35 PM
Apr 2022

Fixed it for you. From Generals of the Army down to Ryadovoy (Privates) they are almost all guilty.

CaptainTruth

(8,257 posts)
4. Truth. Russia has lost at least a generation in terms of joining the modern world.
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 06:06 PM
Apr 2022

The entire development of their country has been set back by a generation, at least, probably more, because if they continue on this path they will continue to be international pariahs.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
7. Right. Putin is acting like it's the '50s when Kruschchev rolled...
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 06:36 PM
Apr 2022

Last edited Fri Apr 8, 2022, 10:23 AM - Edit history (1)

Russian tanks into Hungary.

They've had two great chances to choose democracy—the 1917 revolution when they threw off the czar, and 1989 when the iron curtain and the Soviet Union fell. Each time they eventually chose a strongman. And there probably have been innumerable opportunities to take out Stalin or Khrushchev or Brezhnev, or in Putin's case, use poison, his preferred method.


Hell, even here in our democracy we attempt assassinations all the time (sad to say, but true).

Must be in their pysche. Grow some cajones, Rooskies.

peppertree

(23,456 posts)
14. Well said. It's all they've ever known: Tsars, dictators, and despots.
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 07:25 PM
Apr 2022

Gorbachev was probably the closest Russians have ever experienced to good governance.

In that sense, they're a little like people in those impoverished African countries - many of which have only had a handful of democratic years in 60+ of independence.

And few if any years under competent leadership of any kind.

It gets hard to imagine - let alone expect - anything else.

Evolve Dammit

(21,816 posts)
19. Gorbachev said a few years ago: "It seems as if the world is preparing for war." He knew it was
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 09:34 PM
Apr 2022

coming; something was starting. Would love to sit down with that man for a few hours. He had (has) a heart and a soul, unlike Vlad.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
24. I remember. He was a formidable, sophisticated...
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 10:29 AM
Apr 2022

leader and many of us were wondering if Reagan would be up to the task of negotiating with him, as Reagan was beginning to show signs of dementia back then.

We perhaps dodged a bullet as the Russians didn't know what they had and he was forced to resign.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
17. And 100s of thousands of their brightest have fled the country, which will slow them more.
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 08:42 PM
Apr 2022

As the "smart" Russians make a life elsewhere, only the rubes are left to work the country. No IT advances. No new new innovations. Etc

CaptainTruth

(8,257 posts)
20. That's an excellent point that I think is often missed.
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 11:15 PM
Apr 2022

The smart creative inspired entrepreneurs in Russia, the ones that could drive advances in their society, will leave.

If they have the brains & the resources to launch companies that can truly bring innovative change to Russian society, then they certainly have the brains & resources to LEAVE Russia & go somewhere where their success & accomplishments won't be hamstrung by the limitations of Russian infrastructure (& I'm including ability to trade & otherwise interact with the rest of the world in "infrastructure," it's all part of the same pie).

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
25. Russia's loss. The west will benefit. Maybe that's why...
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 10:38 AM
Apr 2022

Russia is in the state it is. How many times has that cycled repeated itself under the procession of strongmen they keep opting for?

I'm sure many fled as fast as they could under Stalin, then Khrushchev, Brezhnev, and now Putin.

alittlelark

(19,143 posts)
5. They will play that clip to PROVE that 'Ukrainian Nazis' r evil
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 06:18 PM
Apr 2022

Russia is in a propaganda matrix.

Aussie105

(8,173 posts)
13. Putin is changing his tactics.
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 07:24 PM
Apr 2022

He has significant losses, and knows he cannot take over Ukraine easily, or at all.

He has changed to a scorched earth policy, destroy everything and leave large parts of Ukraine in ruins.

Those Russian troops who don't wish to participate, are best advised to get out of their 'Z' branded vehicles and walk away. Dump your weapons, dump your uniforms, just walk away.

Ukraine is suffering, so is the citizenry of Russia. Only time before Putin himself suffers too.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
23. We helped Germany and Japan and they were our enemies.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 08:12 AM
Apr 2022

We should do a lot more for our friend.

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