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If Elon Musk is a Magat, gab13by13 Apr 2022 #1
He will turn it into a hate platform that nobody wants to read Walleye Apr 2022 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2022 #7
I think most of us know hate when we see it Walleye Apr 2022 #13
Please proceed, angue. Swede Apr 2022 #36
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2022 #37
He will definitely be allowing TFG back on Quakerfriend Apr 2022 #3
And you know Dumbty is just juicing his drawers to get back there. ificandream Apr 2022 #38
Weeding out disinformation and hate speech C_U_L8R Apr 2022 #4
👆editing Walleye Apr 2022 #14
If you want to see censorship, take it private bucolic_frolic Apr 2022 #5
His Problem Is Too Much Moneyitis Me. Apr 2022 #6
It is interesting that he wants to spend 43 billion for something that he says has a problem. cutroot Apr 2022 #8
How many users does "Mr. Free Speech" have blocked for repying to his twitter acct? Pobeka Apr 2022 #9
I Have To Think That TFG Is The Little Birdie In Musk's Ear.... global1 Apr 2022 #10
I'm still trying to figure out... William Seger Apr 2022 #11
Zuckerberg? I'm pretty sure he doesn't own it. jimfields33 Apr 2022 #20
Opps, you're right -- it was Jack Dorsey William Seger Apr 2022 #29
What? moose65 Apr 2022 #30
Aw, you were just a few minutes too late William Seger Apr 2022 #31
Sure reads like a pump & dump ego event to me. irisblue Apr 2022 #12
+1. you're not the only one. -(nt)- stopdiggin Apr 2022 #28
I was seriously considering joining twitter. Delmette2.0 Apr 2022 #15
Yeah, that's what Parler and Gettr and Truth Social claimed, too. tanyev Apr 2022 #16
If we can't counter trump's BS in the little white Twitter boxes, we have a serious problem. Hoyt Apr 2022 #17
If this egotistical piece of shit is successful in taking over Twitter zuul Apr 2022 #18
I feel like this might end up like when Fox bought MySpace... SKKY Apr 2022 #19
That's what I'm hoping geardaddy Apr 2022 #35
Musk's version of censorship is being held accountable dlk Apr 2022 #21
bingo! Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #45
Someone has an inflated sense of self. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2022 #22
Maybe Putin is writing the check. Jetheels Apr 2022 #23
He's right that some moderation is necessary Warpy Apr 2022 #24
I read his statement as an absolute clarion stopdiggin Apr 2022 #27
never really been able to understand the US's stopdiggin Apr 2022 #25
Elon is a Musk-rat! ananda Apr 2022 #26
IMNSHO, Musk sees $ signs and power. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2022 #32
So he basically thinks racists and sexists should be able to say things without penalty? Fuck that! Initech Apr 2022 #33
Musk is a disease n/t geardaddy Apr 2022 #34
Abuse is not the problem either, Elon Sucha NastyWoman Apr 2022 #39
This is Elon Musk Hiawatha Pete Apr 2022 #40
Elon Musk is brainwashed with all the other MAGATS LiberalLovinLug Apr 2022 #48
Someone should educate that idiot about "free speech" Justice matters. Apr 2022 #41
Warning, Warning! Mike Nelson Apr 2022 #42
It's going to be even more of a shit hole with Elon in charge SunImp Apr 2022 #43
Quick question jmowreader Apr 2022 #44
Fuck Musk BlueWavePsych Apr 2022 #46
Has big aspirations, and not necessarily ones that are anything constructive. Cult 45? Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #47

gab13by13

(31,654 posts)
1. If Elon Musk is a Magat,
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 07:25 AM
Apr 2022

he's bringing a Trojan horse to Twitter.

Walleye

(44,089 posts)
2. He will turn it into a hate platform that nobody wants to read
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 07:27 AM
Apr 2022

We get enough of their vitriol prejudice and violence in the public square without Musk encouraging it.

Response to Walleye (Reply #2)

Walleye

(44,089 posts)
13. I think most of us know hate when we see it
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 08:10 AM
Apr 2022

Swede

(38,781 posts)
36. Please proceed, angue.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 10:43 AM
Apr 2022

What hate is subjective?

Response to Swede (Reply #36)

Quakerfriend

(5,882 posts)
3. He will definitely be allowing TFG back on
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 07:28 AM
Apr 2022

ificandream

(11,776 posts)
38. And you know Dumbty is just juicing his drawers to get back there.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 10:54 AM
Apr 2022

C_U_L8R

(49,134 posts)
4. Weeding out disinformation and hate speech
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 07:29 AM
Apr 2022

is not censorship. It's good editing and housekeeping.

Walleye

(44,089 posts)
14. 👆editing
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 08:11 AM
Apr 2022

People don’t expect the New York Times to print every letter to the editor

bucolic_frolic

(54,536 posts)
5. If you want to see censorship, take it private
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 07:30 AM
Apr 2022

Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. His Problem Is Too Much Moneyitis
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 07:32 AM
Apr 2022

He's a fool

cutroot

(1,024 posts)
8. It is interesting that he wants to spend 43 billion for something that he says has a problem.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 07:41 AM
Apr 2022

What kind of troubles are worth 43 billion? We could all use a few troubles like that.

Pobeka

(5,000 posts)
9. How many users does "Mr. Free Speech" have blocked for repying to his twitter acct?
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 07:43 AM
Apr 2022

Robert Reich is one.

Musk is a megalmaniac IMHO, and want to rule the world now that he's acquired so much wealth. He feels entitled to rule the world.

Dangerous, dangerous man.

global1

(26,485 posts)
10. I Have To Think That TFG Is The Little Birdie In Musk's Ear....
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 07:49 AM
Apr 2022

that is feeding him this line about censorship and free speech.

Probably telling him that us rich guys got to stick together.

Saying I'd buy it myself but it would look to self serving - but if you buy it - it will be more believable coming from you. You know they're all against me.

Don't do it Elon. You know that anything TFG touches turns to poop and dies. He's conning you. You should know better.

William Seger

(12,290 posts)
11. I'm still trying to figure out...
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 07:52 AM
Apr 2022

... how such a poorly designed, disorganized piece of crap became so central to our politics. In hindsight, I guess it was bound to happen with some platform, but it's a shame that it wasn't one designed by someone smarter than Zuckerberg.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
20. Zuckerberg? I'm pretty sure he doesn't own it.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:06 AM
Apr 2022

William Seger

(12,290 posts)
29. Opps, you're right -- it was Jack Dorsey
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:45 AM
Apr 2022

I dislike Facebook for other reasons, but it's not as poorly designed as Twitter.

moose65

(3,446 posts)
30. What?
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:45 AM
Apr 2022

Zuckerberg has nothing to do with Twitter.

William Seger

(12,290 posts)
31. Aw, you were just a few minutes too late
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:51 AM
Apr 2022

Better luck next time.

irisblue

(37,081 posts)
12. Sure reads like a pump & dump ego event to me.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 07:52 AM
Apr 2022

stopdiggin

(15,194 posts)
28. +1. you're not the only one. -(nt)-
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:43 AM
Apr 2022

Delmette2.0

(4,480 posts)
15. I was seriously considering joining twitter.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 08:26 AM
Apr 2022

Not any more. And definitely not now after reading this article.

tanyev

(48,902 posts)
16. Yeah, that's what Parler and Gettr and Truth Social claimed, too.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 08:27 AM
Apr 2022

But they were all quick to censor any posts they didn't like.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. If we can't counter trump's BS in the little white Twitter boxes, we have a serious problem.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 08:45 AM
Apr 2022

zuul

(14,704 posts)
18. If this egotistical piece of shit is successful in taking over Twitter
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 08:50 AM
Apr 2022

let’s all take a social media crap on Tesla and his other ventures and see how long he allows that. He will shut it down immediately. Bastion of free speech, my ass.

He’s a dangerous narcissist, a racist, and a fraud. Fuck that guy. Sideways.

SKKY

(12,783 posts)
19. I feel like this might end up like when Fox bought MySpace...
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 08:55 AM
Apr 2022

...Not everything Musk touches turns to gold.

geardaddy

(25,392 posts)
35. That's what I'm hoping
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 10:33 AM
Apr 2022

I could see a mass of people leaving.

dlk

(13,195 posts)
21. Musk's version of censorship is being held accountable
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:09 AM
Apr 2022

He believes he’s above it all.

Evolve Dammit

(21,622 posts)
45. bingo!
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 12:16 PM
Apr 2022

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
22. Someone has an inflated sense of self.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:14 AM
Apr 2022

Musk is making billions with his cars. That doesn't make him a decent social engineer.

He should stop talking about social issues and stick to cars, or he'll start to lose money.

Musk is an oligarch. He says things that only make sense to oligarchs.

Trump is an oligarch, among other things. Musk and Trump have similar ideas about governance. Musk, as a politician, would be a disaster. Yet he views himself as an answer to social ills. That's guaranteed to engender tragedy.

We're seeing the development of another decline in democratic govrernance. Political discourse is losing out to wealth. Politicians are distancing themselves from the people and are listening to the money. Money is governing Washington more than ever. Musk is moving in.

 

Jetheels

(991 posts)
23. Maybe Putin is writing the check.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:22 AM
Apr 2022

Warpy

(114,509 posts)
24. He's right that some moderation is necessary
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:24 AM
Apr 2022

and Twitter has been moderating with a very gentle hand. lowering the ban hammer only when repeated warnings haven't worked. Maybe Musk wants to expand moderation to include other languages, something that needs to happen. Dunno, in a free speech society, he needs to elucidate a bit more.

I can't see him turning it into a right wing sink, no matter what his personal politics might be. That would kill it off quickly. Wingnuts and trolls are there to pwn the libs, after all. Remove the libs and they dry up and blow away.

stopdiggin

(15,194 posts)
27. I read his statement as an absolute clarion
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:41 AM
Apr 2022

call to unfettered free speech. (why else are you concerned about current efforts of restraint against MTG and clear falsehood?)

Now you can be in favor of unfettered speech (and many are) - but let's not try to sell it as some appeal to 'moderation.' That ain't what he's saying.

stopdiggin

(15,194 posts)
25. never really been able to understand the US's
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:32 AM
Apr 2022

love affair - with it's own oligarchs. A full length movie on Zuckerberg? Are we really so enamored of the golden calf?

A handful of these people are of admirable character. The large majority are not - (and a great deal of them don't even claim to be).

ananda

(34,609 posts)
26. Elon is a Musk-rat!
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:40 AM
Apr 2022

What an asshole!

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,744 posts)
32. IMNSHO, Musk sees $ signs and power.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:54 AM
Apr 2022

Remove the filters against offensiveness and wild lies and a platform becomes a lot anger, emotional fights and petty name calling. This type of activity tends to generate LOTS OF CLICKS. Clicks = $. $ = campaign contributions.

Political influence and money can enable various forms of unfair business practices. Musk is 50. He may be around for a long time.

Initech

(108,042 posts)
33. So he basically thinks racists and sexists should be able to say things without penalty? Fuck that!
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 10:22 AM
Apr 2022

If Elon got his way and let all the trolls out of Twitter jail, it would be like when Bane took over Gotham at the end of Dark Knight Rises. Fuck that shit.

geardaddy

(25,392 posts)
34. Musk is a disease n/t
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 10:31 AM
Apr 2022

Sucha NastyWoman

(3,019 posts)
39. Abuse is not the problem either, Elon
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 11:00 AM
Apr 2022

Disregard for the truth and manipulative lying is the problem. And the only way to stop it is censorship..

Hiawatha Pete

(2,076 posts)
40. This is Elon Musk
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 11:12 AM
Apr 2022

LiberalLovinLug

(14,616 posts)
48. Elon Musk is brainwashed with all the other MAGATS
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 12:25 PM
Apr 2022

I realized that after seeing this post comparing Trudeau with Hitler.

PM Trudeau actually allowed a loud disruptive protest including very large vehicles, honking their horns 24/7, to occupy the capital city of the country for over 3 f'n weeks. Then after the locals had had more than enough, they were asked to leave politely. Then given warning slips of paper. Then finally a very slow methodical stop and start, push forward, until finally the last of them left. No violence.

This mob of selfish antivaxers together with a rag tag tagalongs of general anti-government, anti-democratic and social media brainwashed idiots.

How many world leaders would allow freedom of expression and protest to choke their capital that long, and end it in a peaceful manner?

For that he gets the Hitler comparison? This post is where I knew Musk is not the brightest bulb. At least in any topic other than electric cars.

Justice matters.

(9,564 posts)
41. Someone should educate that idiot about "free speech"
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 11:19 AM
Apr 2022

Like in "free speech is about the government having no right to punish based on "legal" (i.g., not criminal) speech about the government"

That's it. Every other entity, be it privately owned or publicly owned (shares), has the right to ban any "speech" from anyone it doesn't want to see or hear on/inside their property (or properties).

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
42. Warning, Warning!
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 11:47 AM
Apr 2022

... this is what Crooked Donald and his followers complain about... their "free speech" being curtailed. They want to get rid of, or control, social media like Twitter (plus Facebook, etc). The reason they are thrown off these sites is NOT due to free speech problems... it is due to them constantly violating the sites' "community standards." The Donald and his fans "shout fire in a crowded theater" and lie, Lie, LIE. This is what Eldon Musk wants to bring back...

SunImp

(2,655 posts)
43. It's going to be even more of a shit hole with Elon in charge
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 11:55 AM
Apr 2022

jmowreader

(53,007 posts)
44. Quick question
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 12:01 PM
Apr 2022

If Musk did buy Twitter, which he’s not gonna (he’s about $40 billion too low) how long will it take someone to set up a Mastodon-based competitor? I seriously doubt legitimate news people, advertisers and Democrats will want to remain on a service that’s full of the dregs of humanity.

BlueWavePsych

(3,319 posts)
46. Fuck Musk
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 12:19 PM
Apr 2022

Evolve Dammit

(21,622 posts)
47. Has big aspirations, and not necessarily ones that are anything constructive. Cult 45?
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 12:21 PM
Apr 2022
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