Biden has told Obama he's running again

[brooklynite]

Source: The Hill

President Biden has told former President Obama that he is planning to run for reelection in 2024, two sources tell The Hill.

The admission to Obama is the latest indication that Biden is likely to run for a second term, something the president has spoken about publicly.

During a press conference in Brussels last month, he told reporters he’d be “very fortunate” to run against his rival in the 2020 election, former President Trump.

“[Biden] wants to run and he’s clearly letting everyone know,” said one of the two sources familiar with the conversations between Obama and Biden.

Read more: https://thehill.com/news/administration/3272281-biden-has-told-obama-hes-running-again

[Sfumito]

1. Good

There's no way Trump can become President.

[highplainsdem]

2. Good!

[Walleye]

3. Does anybody really think we'd have a better chance of winning by nominating anybody else?

[Boydog]

5. Totally agree

Biden is my choice hands down. Glad to hear this. But he needs to understand that every day regardless if during the campaign or not he is running for President. He needs to tout his accomplishments more and stay on the attack.

[thesquanderer]

19. That might depend on who we're running against. (n/t)

[Walleye]

21. Good point. I wonder if there's any Dark horse Republicans we don't know about yet

[IronLionZion]

52. Marianne Williamson can heal this country with crystals

[Walleye]

54. Oh my. I forgot all about her

[GB_RN]

4. Personally, I Think Biden Is Doing A Good Job...

That being said, he needs to be more vocal about his accomplishments, be more on-point with messaging, and take it to the media about "inflation" and its actual cause (greed/price gouging). The Democrats have been taking it on the chin and not fighting back (par for the course, though).

If the Democrats and Biden don't get serious about messaging RFN, they're going to get wiped out in November and Biden won't fare too well in a re-election bid.

[JohnSJ]

7. I think Biden is messaging fine, it is the Democrats as a whole who aren't

[Walleye]

24. 👆Joe is kind of busy right now doing his job. The rest of us should be campaigning

Messaging should be somebody else’s department

[JohnSJ]

28. Absolutely

[disndat]

50. Absolutely

Biden must run. I have noticed that anytime Biden does something to elevate a black person like
E. Jackson-Brown, his poll numbers goes down. Racism is alive and well in this country.

[HUAJIAO]

9. If the Democrats and Biden don't get serious about messaging RFN,

You can say that again... Nothing new, is it....

[LakeArenal]

48. Just this am on DU there was a post about how Dems have out-raised Republicans in donating funds

I think it’s going fine.

[IronLionZion]

53. Do voters know it?

Dem ads should be about all the good stuff that was accomplished and how much better things have gotten in 2 years.

GOP will hit us on inflation because they haven't done diddly squat to help anyone.

[JohnSJ]

6. Bloomberg early this morning pushing that he won't. The media loves gossip

[gab13by13]

8. I hope he runs,

maybe we can get a couple more progressive members of Congress in 2022 to get his BBB agenda passed?

[gab13by13]

12. Who would be better than Joe?

[hueymahl]

13. Most of those that ran against him in the last primary

Let’s get real. We are going to get our ass kicked this fall. The presidency is the only thing preventing a complete fascist takeover.

Unless Biden’s approval rating doubles in two years, we are looking at a doomsday scenario politically

[doc03]

15. I voted for Biden and I think he is doing a good job.

I think his age will be the problem.

[blueinredohio]

34. My thought exactly.

[yardwork]

29. I think Biden is doing a great job.

Too many Americans believe right wing lies and/or wimpy MSM bothsiderism.

[LiberalLovinLug]

33. "Who would be better than Joe?"

I think this is a disturbing question. Or rather the fact that there is no anwser.

All well and good to rally round the chief, but lets get real. Why is it so verbotan to say the obvious, he's getting old, and its showing more every day. More "senior moments". And that will only increase. He did gallantly in the 2020 election. He has done exceptional in office. But even if he performs well in debates etc, he has been so ravaged by RW hate memes and fake stories, to turn Joe into an Abe Simpson character. Americans will be ravished with ads using any clips of him not performing well, along with his stutters. Nothing will be off the table.

Democrats have to show up in the millions more than Republicans every election. Over 3 million more wasn't enough in 2016. Over 7 million just did it in 2020. If even a fraction of those who voted for Biden last time, are convinced by the MSM that he is unfit, and don't vote , or worse, vote for the Trump party, we are doomed.

And we don't have any Bill Clinton, or Barack Obama, waiting in the wings. A charismatic personality that can transcend the partisan political circus. The GOP with Putins help, have learned the "art" of the smear. They target their victims years ahead of time. Working to chip away at their credibiblity by overblowing every mistake they make, and ignoring any accomplishment. Kamala Harris is the latest example. She would have no chance if Joe decided to bow out. The RW is very good at defining the enemy for their base well ahead of any election. We need another candidate that comes out of left field, and Republicans have to scramble. A surprise popular choice. Someone like Al Franken.

[doc03]

41. I don't know of anyone. Kamela Harris would be the

obvious one, but I think the Republicans have pretty much
trashed her chances. Biden looks frail, he has been attacked so much by the right with fake video clips of him being confused. I am just worried he won't do so well in 2024.

[LakeArenal]

49. I think it's divisive. Joe ran Joe won. I did not vote for a one term president.

I don’t know why anyone persists in being surprised that he will run.

I don’t care if Biden’s body fails. A long as he can give right on speeches and make great decisions he can talk with a computer for all I care.

However. Al Franken for anything.

[PoliticAverse]

14. A primary challenge would be unlikely to produce a nominee that would win in 2024.

Primary challenges of an incumbent President tend to divide the party and produce a loss.

[Walleye]

25. That is correct. Does anybody really think a primary challenge would be a good idea at this point?

[DemocraticPatriot]

26. Credible primary challenges to incumbent presidents have ALWAYS produced

the loss of the White House for that party, through the modern era of presidential primary campaigns going back to 1952.


In fact, I think you have to go back to the early 1800s before you might find a case where a party replaced their own 1-term incumbent president with someone else, and went on to win the general election-- but I'm not sure that it EVER happened.

[Polybius]

30. Ted Kennedy deserves a lot of blame for Carter's 1980 loss

Yet he never got any.

[PoliticAverse]

31. Well he's getting some now...

From: https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/686186156/how-ted-kennedys-80-challenge-to-president-carter-broke-the-democratic-party

How Ted Kennedy's '80 Challenge To President Carter 'Broke The Democratic Party'

...

As candidates begin to emerge and maneuver for the 2020 election, we're going to revisit a presidential nomination battle that took place when the country was in the throes of changes that shook Americans' confidence in their government and their faith in the future. In the late 1970s, inflation and unemployment were high, American hostages were being held in Iran, and a severe energy crisis led to lethal confrontations among motorists in gas lines and a full-blown riot in Levittown, Pa. So in 1980, Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy, the last of three charismatic brothers who would seek the presidency, took on incumbent President Jimmy Carter, a former peanut farmer and Georgia governor who may have seemed mild-mannered and ineffectual but who could be tough as nails in a political fight.

The result, our guest Jon Ward says, was a civil war within the Democratic Party that would have far-reaching consequences. Jon Ward has covered American politics for more than 20 years. He's currently senior political correspondent for Yahoo News, and he hosts a podcast called "The Long Game." His new book is "Camelot's End: Kennedy Vs. Carter And The Fight That Broke The Democratic Party."

[Polybius]

36. Interesting read

I just read all of that. Thank you for the link!

[groundloop]

47. Ronnie Raygun's deal with Iran to hold the hostages until after the election was the biggest factor

[Novara]

51. As I always say: Reagan Ruined Everything

[murielm99]

40. Then tell Bernie Sanders to stay home.

[867-5309.]

16. He said this months ago at a press conference

His first one, as I recall

[DemocraticPatriot]

22. He also said it last year.

This isn't really news.

[Novara]

17. I thought he was too old in 2020 and I still think he's too old. HOWEVER,

WE NEED HIM and he is doing a very good job. Age be damned, I'll vote for him again in a heartbeat.

I wonder if he'd be so sure he'll run again if the orange shitstain wasn't his likely opponent?

But oh, won't it be sweet to beat that motherfucker TWICE?



But I'm not confident we'll have a legitimate election without Congress passing voting safeguards, though.

[DownriverDem]

37. If he's doing a good job

why do you think he's too old? I don't get that.

[Novara]

38. These are not mutually exclusive.

I can think anyone his age is too old while also thinking he's doing a good job.

The presidency takes a hell out of a person, and people in their 70s and 80s are not as resilient as they were when they were in their 40s and 50s. That's simply physiology and science.

However, despite his age, he is doing a damned good job. I am more than happy to vote for him again.

I don't want him to have a primary challenger. I do want him to run again. I'd prefer he was 10-15 years younger, for his sake. I worry about the toll the job can take on someone, especially someone elderly (he is elderly, whether we want to acknowledge it or not).

[colorado_ufo]

55. What you say about age is only true to a small extent.

We still think of people in their 70s and 80s as they were 20 to 30 years ago. People today in that age group (who took care of themselves) are entirely different. My hubby is 79 and started working out with a personal trainer about 18 months ago. He is now in the best shape of his life. It helps that he doesn't drink or smoke, eats a great diet and takes vitamins. He still works 12 hours a day as a salesman and (according to his smart watch) covers about 14,000 steps a day. He has also mastered new computer skills. The younger guys can't keep up with him.

There is no substitute for experience. There is only experience. Hubby's co-workers respect his 40 years of selling and call him a "legend." There is no substitute for Biden's experience. Harris is very bright and capable, but her background did not prepare her for foreign policy and other challenges of the office. That is why Joe keeps her close, to learn and prepare for the future.

My vote is for Biden, but if that would not be possible, Al Franken.

[flamingdem]

18. We need to get behind Biden

and tout his accomplishments loudly!

[Walleye]

27. Yes!

[DemocraticPatriot]

20. I wrote a lengthy historical post about why

challenging a president of your own party is a bad idea, in reply to a post advocating such challenges... but the post was removed before I could post mine, so I lost all of it, lol.

Briefly, no president's party in the modern era has ever retained the White House after a serious primary challenge to that president's re-nomination. GHW Bush, Carter, Ford, Johnson, Truman...

I will support President Biden's re-nomination and re-election, with no reservations whatsoever.

[ificandream]

23. Glad to see this coming out at this time.

It gives a little shove to Dumpty Trumpty.

[Novara]

32. Yeah, you think he wants to lose to Biden again??

Heh.

[DownriverDem]

35. Good

We need to focus on winning more elections in the Midterms so we can get more votes to pass legislation. That's how it works.

[Paladin]

39. So glad to hear it. (nt)

[Kid Berwyn]

42. Good!

Best President in a loooong time.

[Akoto]

43. Good. He's gotten stuff done without being a tabloid phenomenon. n/t

[mcar]

44. Good

[Historic NY]

45. If Grassley is running for a 6 yr term at 88,

Joe's still a youngster. And still younger than Bernie.

[SpankMe]

46. Now that I know for sure Joe is running,

...we have to go all-in on Joe, regardless of his approval ratings. If Trump runs and gets the nomination, I think Joe will win. Not that we should relax - we still have to pull out all the stops. But, Trump has lost enough support from his typical zombie posse that it would be hard for him to win against Joe.

But, if DeSantis comes in and gets the R-nomination, then it'll be a tough battle and we have to give 'til it hurts to send this cockhole back to Florida with his dick dragging on the ground. Trump is a mean, shitty, corrupt, racist, homophobic asshole who is also afflicted with mental illness.

DeSantis is a mean, shitty, corrupt, racist, homophobic asshole...but without mental illness. That makes him more dangerous than Trump.

The campaign should begin now. Give Republicans no quarter.