Coronavirus has infected majority of Americans
Source: Washington Post
Before omicron, one-third of Americans had been infected with the coronavirus, but by the end of February, that rate had climbed to nearly 60 percent including about 75 percent of kids and 60 percent of people age 18 to 49, according to federal health data released Tuesday.
The data from blood tests offers the first evidence that over half the U.S. population, or 189 million people have been infected at least once since the pandemic began double the number reflected in official case counts. Officials cautioned, however, that the data, in a report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, does not indicate people have protection against the virus going forward, especially against increasingly transmissible variants.
We continue to recommend that everyone be up to date on their vaccinations, get your primary series and booster, when eligible, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said during a media briefing. Kristie Clarke, the CDC official who authored the report, said by February, evidence of previous COVID-19 infections substantially increased among every age group, likely reflecting the increase in cases we noted as omicron surged in this country.
Clarke said the greatest increases took place in those with the lowest levels of vaccination, noting that older adults were more likely to be fully vaccinated. The largest increases were in children and teenagers through age 17 about 75 percent of them had been infected by February, based on blood samples that look at antibodies developed in response to a coronavirus infection but not in response to vaccination. Thats about 58 million children.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/04/26/majority-americans-coronavirus-infections/
The Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) that just issued that is being referenced is here. Link to PDF - https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/pdfs/mm7117e3-H.pdf
ETA to add the chart -
Faux pas
(14,690 posts)cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)by the US government as being present as everyone in our household got sick.
For me it only lasted 6 to 8 days but my brother and his wife were sick for about 2 weeks and it took them weeks more to fully recover.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,170 posts)I felt like ass for a couple of days, but it is totally worth it.
oregonjen
(3,339 posts)We got our second booster last Friday, too. It hit hard and fast. By Saturday night, started to feel better and by Sunday morning, all better.
Warpy
(111,339 posts)I caught a breakthrough case at the local county hospital, which is Covid Central for the whole state. I felt like ass for a couple of days and then I was fine. I figure I'm probably covered. The vax protected me from getting what I had in 3/20. It's working as advertised.
Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)I had Covid, got vaxxed and boosted after and had Covid again. It was way worse the second time. Now I hit the 2nd booster this week.
You cant have enough protection. The more people that take all the boosters the better off everyone will be.
Warpy
(111,339 posts)which is why I'm in no wild rush, having had that mild breakthrough case.
You might be one of the "non takers" that pop up with every vaccination out there. I was a non taker to smallpox as a kid and the measles vax as an adult. It happens.
One poor bugger in South Africa has had Covid five times.
speak easy
(9,302 posts)not fooled
(5,801 posts)of serious symptoms or the need for hospitalization. THAT'S the big benefit of these vaccines.
Polybius
(15,476 posts)That would be awesome.
yardwork
(61,703 posts)Most vaccines help the body fight the disease once it's in. It's very, very difficult to fully prevent infection.
The Covid vaccines are working remarkably well. They can't prevent infection but do prevent serious illness in most people.
speak easy
(9,302 posts)not how serious the infections were. Having four shots does not mean dropping all precautions.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)that's the correct conclusion to draw from cases such as Harris's. Anti-vaxxers, however, think that cases where people get infected after receiving multiple vaccine doses as evidence the vaccines don't work.
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Delphinus
(11,840 posts)That the only ones benefiting are the pharmaceutical companies.
LudwigPastorius
(9,170 posts)So, yay for vaccs and boosters.
But, the latest variant of Omicron (BA.2.12.1) is responsible for 29% of new COVID-19 infections nationally last week, according to data reported Tuesday by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And it caused 58% of reported infections in the New York region.
The variant has been detected in at least 13 other countries, but the U.S. has the highest levels of it so far. Scientists say it spreads even faster than stealth omicron. (Which is already nearly as contagious as the measles.)
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/omicron-mutant-84317761
deurbano
(2,895 posts)I'm still trying hard to protect my (vulnerable) disabled adult daughter... so my daughter, husband and I all got the second booster.. about 3 weeks ago. Harris gets out more than my family does, though!
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)They feel that since they're less likely to die from it, it's OK to try to kill someone else who isn't so lucky at the risk of permanent organ damage. Then for Omicron, it spread so quickly through certain areas that we had a quick winter spike and then it ran out of people to infect.
For vaccinated folks, it's more of depending on our T cells to quickly defeat an infection.
I'm still masking indoors around other people. Let the conservatives achieve "natural herd immunity" if they want.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)I haven't nor has my parents. But we are smart still lol
Delphinus
(11,840 posts)and I have both remained free of getting it. We've had a few scares, but each time we've tested, we've been negative.
marie999
(3,334 posts)I have been checked 4 times by my VA clinic but I still haven't got it. Could I be immune? I wear a mask whenever I have been in public, but never in the house except after my husband tested positive.
BumRushDaShow
(129,445 posts)but there has been some recent research that discovered that if someone had been infected in the past with some "different" (not COVID-related) coronavirus (and coronaviruses are often the cause of "the common cold" along with rhinoviruses), they were finding some high percent seemed to been able to skirt contracting COVID-19 - even if they were in a household where every other member had contracted it and they ended up being the lone "negative".
Why do some people get Covid when others dont? Heres what we know so far
Published Thu, Feb 3 20224:55 AM ESTUpdated Sat, Feb 5 202210:20 PM EST
Holly Ellyatt
One of the great mysteries that has emerged from the Covid-19 pandemic and one thats still being investigated by infectious disease specialists is why some people catch Covid and others dont, even when theyre equally exposed to the virus.
Many of us know entire households who caught Covid and had to isolate over the pandemic, but there are also multiple anecdotes of couples, families and colleagues where some people caught the virus but not everyone. Indeed, Danny Altmann, professor of immunology at Imperial College London, told CNBC that studies indicate the likelihood of becoming infected within a household once one case is positive is not as high as youd imagine.
Never Covid people
An increasing amount of research is being devoted to the reasons why some people never seem to get Covid a so-called never Covid cohort. Last month, new research was published by Imperial College London suggesting that people with higher levels of T cells (a type of cell in the immune system) from common cold coronaviruses were less likely to become infected with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19.
Dr. Rhia Kundu, first author of the study from Imperials National Heart and Lung Institute, said that being exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus doesnt always result in infection, and weve been keen to understand why. We found that high levels of pre-existing T cells, created by the body when infected with other human coronaviruses like the common cold, can protect against Covid-19 infection, she said.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/03/why-do-some-people-get-covid-while-others-dont.html
The study was published this past January - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-27674-x
Obviously more needs to be done along this line but there is a suggestion that someone's "T-cells" are involved and those that may have been generated from a prior coronavirus infection (non-SARS CoV2) may be what helped in that respect.
It would be tricky to know if someone had a "cold" from a coronavirus vs a rhinovirus as most people just ride it out at home and something like that wouldn't be serotyped or genotyped. But it's interesting nonetheless - particularly if they could even do some kind of "controlled" study actually infecting someone with a run-of-the-mill coronavirus and then seeing what happens over time and if that can stave off a COVID-19 infection (i.e., enough to trigger a "positive" test).
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)I thought that was how it works. Everyone who caught the virus OR got vaccinated - should all be carrying antibodies.
So wouldn't that include just about all of us?
BumRushDaShow
(129,445 posts)After awhile, they die out and fade away unless you are exposed to something that triggers creation of them or are boosted with a vaccine to help the body to remember how to make them.
The science and medical professionals are still all over the map with respect to narrowing down how long the antibodies might last in enough quantity to fight off the virus or even be detected. But in any case, that will vary depending on whether the person is immuno-compromised and/or has certain underlying conditions and/or is older, where the antibodies have been found to begin to disappear fairly quickly (based on studies - often between 4 - 5 months).
Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)But thats not the only way you get immunity. The body remembers how to produce those antibodies the next time it encounters the virus.
BumRushDaShow
(129,445 posts)but the antibodies are not the only entities that make up the immune system and the variants can sometimes be just different enough to make the antibodies (or other contributing cells) not as effective.
There have been and continue to be studies to compare the immune response from an exposure and infection (unvaccinated) vs the response from the vaccine (and the effectiveness/longevity of the result). And as I posted in this thread here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2908686 an interesting development about the T-cells that might have evolved in someone who had previous exposure to a non-COVID coronavirus, is probably a "faster" way the body can get at the virus before the antibodies get generated.
There was a fascinating study on the inflammation response that the virus can cause in people published here - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04702-4 and what was found was that the virus can actually attack and infect those "first responders" like the white blood cells, and basically use them not as an incubator for replication, but to set them up to be "poison pills" that spew inflammatory substances as they die.
Study reveals how COVID-19 triggers severe immune response
By NANCY FLIESLER | Boston Childrens April 6, 2022 Research
Illustration of a macrophage battling bacteria. Image: urfingus/iStock/Getty Images Plus
This article is part of Harvard Medical Schools continuing coverage of COVID-19.
A study led by researchers at Harvard Medical School and Boston Childrens Hospital explains for the first time why COVID-19 causes severe inflammation in some people, leading to acute respiratory distress and multi-organ damage. Surprisingly, the study also finds that antibodies that people develop when they contract COVID-19 sometimes lead to more inflammation, while antibodies generated by mRNA COVID-19 vaccines seem not to. Findings were published April 6 in Nature. The team was led by Judy Lieberman, HMS professor of pediatrics at Boston Childrens; Caroline Junqueira, HMS research associate in pediatrics at Boston Childrens; and Michael Filbin, HMS assistant professor of emergency medicine at Massachusetts General Hospital.
We wanted to understand what distinguishes patients with mild versus severe COVID-19, said Lieberman. We know that many inflammatory markers are elevated in people with severe disease, and that inflammation is at the root of disease severity, but we hadnt known what triggers the inflammation.
Fiery death of immune cells
The investigators analyzed fresh blood samples from patients with COVID-19 coming to the emergency department at Mass General. They compared these with samples from healthy people and from patients with other respiratory conditions. They also looked at lung autopsy tissue from people who had died from COVID-19. They found that SARS-CoV-2 can infect monocytesimmune cells in the blood that act as sentinels or early responders to infectionas well as macrophages, similar immune cells in the lungs. Once infected, the team found, both types of cells die a fiery death called pyroptosis that releases an explosion of powerful inflammatory alarm signals. In the infected patients, about 6 percent of blood monocytes were dying an inflammatory death, said Lieberman. Thats a large number to find, because dying cells are rapidly eliminated from the body.
Examining the lung tissue from people who died from COVID-19, they found that about a quarter of the macrophages in the tissue were dying. When the researchers studied the cells for signs of SARS-CoV-2, they found that about 10 percent of monocytes and 8 percent of lung macrophages were infected. The fact that monocytes and macrophages can be infected with SARS-CoV-2 was a surprise, since monocytes dont carry ACE2 receptors, the classic entry portal for the virus, and macrophages have low amounts of ACE2. Lieberman thinks SARS-CoV-2 infection of monocytes might have previously been missed in part because researchers often study frozen blood samples, in which dead cells do not show up.
More: https://hms.harvard.edu/news/inflammatory-insights
Apparently the vaccine (that tries to mimic the virus) doesn't do that but can still generally produce that resultant T-cells and antibodies to help fight the infection.
Blues Heron
(5,940 posts)Skittles
(153,193 posts)the blood test for covid antibodies consistently shows as negative, even thought I have had three shots
so that test, I guess it only picks up the real thing?
Initech
(100,102 posts)The flu didn't magically disappear overnight, it got to a point where it was less and less lethal but more contagious. The same is happening here.
iemanja
(53,066 posts)but I can't count on it lasting. I take boosters whenever they are available, so I've had four shots now.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)I got Pfizer for my first two doses. For my third I got Moderna because I heard there may be advantages to mixing vaccines. But they only gave us half a dose. I would like to get a second half dose of Moderna in order to make certain that my body has gotten all it needs to train my T-cells to fight off COVID-19. I wouldn't be as concerned if I had gotten Moderna for my first two shots.
When they come out with an Omicron-specific booster shot, I would like to get Novavax, if it is available in the U.S. by then. It seems like it would be beneficial to receive two different types of vaccines working on two different principles. Pfizer and Moderna are mRNA vaccines, whereas Novavax is a protein subunit vaccine.
For me, the main issue is not avoiding COVID (although I am happy that I have never had it), but rather making sure that my body can easily withstand COVID if I do contract the virus.
iemanja
(53,066 posts)Do you mean because it was only one shot?
StevieM
(10,500 posts)They give half of the amount that people were given for each of their first two shots. It is not a full dose.
Unwind Your Mind
(2,042 posts)Me, hubs and all four of our parents have so far avoided contracting Covid
It took A LOT of nagging on my part
Coventina
(27,172 posts)I've now been tested many, many times and always been negative.
And this is after sharing a bed with my COVID positive husband.
RussBLib
(9,035 posts)are we going to have roving bands of people forcing those of us who have never had Covid to get infected?
Doubtful.
Zeitghost
(3,868 posts)Your choices seem to be get it or become a complete shut in the rest of your life. Even people who take it very seriously seem to be still getting it and it's here to stay, so eventually it will catch you.
The best course of action seems to be get vaccinated and work on getting or staying healthy to limit co-morbidities to improve the outcome when it does find you.
SuperCoder
(300 posts)And I plan on staying that way.
Mask up. Vaccinate. Social distance.
SuperCoder
(300 posts)Except essentials and doctor's appointments.
Until the words "The Pandemic is Now Over." scroll across the TV screen.