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speak easy

(9,501 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 03:09 PM Apr 2022

Russia to suspend gas supplies to Poland

Source: BBC

Russia will stop sending gas to Poland from Wednesday, the Polish state gas company PGNiG has said.

PGNiG said Russian energy firm Gazprom had told it all gas deliveries to the country would be halted from 08:00 CET (07:00 BST).

Gazprom has justified the suspension under new rules announced last month, which mean "unfriendly" countries must pay for gas in roubles.

PGNiG has refused to do this.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61237519



Germany is still classified as 'friendly'.
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Russia to suspend gas supplies to Poland (Original Post) speak easy Apr 2022 OP
Russian goods and money are now drenched in innocent blood. LudwigPastorius Apr 2022 #1
Last month, Poland had announced they would end imports "by the end of the year" BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #2
The end of the year came early this year. speak easy Apr 2022 #3
It sure as hell did. BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #5
Germany would not want to be reclassified as 'unfriendly' would they? speak easy Apr 2022 #6
It's like a psyops thing going on with Putin and the EU BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #8
this will force other countries to accelerate alternate supply channels. samsingh Apr 2022 #4
Cutting off nose to spite face. BlueIdaho Apr 2022 #7
Exactly! lark Apr 2022 #17
To Bulgaria too muriel_volestrangler Apr 2022 #9
Russia's gas company Gazprom is also halting gas deliveries to Bulgaria, yaesu Apr 2022 #10
If nobody else buys their oil and gas IronLionZion Apr 2022 #11
North Korea. Yeah. speak easy Apr 2022 #12
Their people don't need food or even COVID vaccines apparently IronLionZion Apr 2022 #13
Cut off sources of forex when you need it most. Smart. paleotn Apr 2022 #14
This is a big deal. If others follow suit, this could devastate Russia's economy. Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #15
Putin has his sights set on Poland. He made that clear in his 2021 speech about Ukraine. Martin68 Apr 2022 #16
"Russia cuts off major gas supply to Poland, Bulgaria", now it gets real for Europe Shanti Shanti Shanti Apr 2022 #18
Hopefully Ukraine will bomb their pipelines now. Emile Apr 2022 #19

LudwigPastorius

(9,806 posts)
1. Russian goods and money are now drenched in innocent blood.
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 03:16 PM
Apr 2022

Every decent country on the globe should cease trade in any of them.

BumRushDaShow

(134,078 posts)
2. Last month, Poland had announced they would end imports "by the end of the year"
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 03:18 PM
Apr 2022
Poland says its ban on all Russian oil and gas imports is the most radical in Europe

March 30, 202211:38 AM ET

Joanna Kakissis


Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki says his country will ban all imports of Russian gas, oil and coal by the end of the year. Speaking to reporters outside fuel storage warehouses near Warsaw, Morawiecki called the ban the most radical in Europe. He said other European countries "are not doing anything about the war" and continue to use Russian resources.

"While others in Europe looked at Russia as a business partner," he said, "we saw that Russia uses gas and oil as a way to blackmail." Morawiecki singled out Germany, which is heavily dependent on Russian fuel. He urged Germany and other EU countries to follow Poland's lead. Poland plans to stop importing coal from Russia in the next few weeks. It plans to cut off Russian oil and gas by December.

(snip)

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/30/1089662657/poland-ban-russian-oil

BumRushDaShow

(134,078 posts)
5. It sure as hell did.
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 04:09 PM
Apr 2022

Only thing that might help a tiny tiny bit is that the northern hemisphere is going into spring but they are going to have to get some kind of LNF replacement contracts in place for the winter season.

I don't know how much they are willing to use small electric appliances for heat and cooking, but that will need to be deployed...

Poland was making an attempt though (article from 2018) -

US trumps Russian gas as Poland eyes Gazprom exit

Date 23.10.2018
Author Jo Harper



Poland's state-run gas firm PGNiG last week signed a 20-year deal for liquefied natural gas (LNG) deliveries from the US and the next day announced it was spending €200 million ($229 million) buying into a long-term project to deliver gas from Norway. On the surface it looked like two commercial deals. The US and Norway have a lot of gas that they want to export, while Poland wants to import the stuff. The EU is keen on diversifying its energy sources and Poland wants to become a gas hub. Win-win, right?

But context is everything and when Poland announced it would not extend its 22-year gas deal with Russian gas firm Gazprom in 2022, eyebrows in Berlin were raised higher than usual in the direction of their eastern neighbor. Germany is moving ahead with the Nord Stream II pipeline that will double Russian imports to Germany over the next few years, a move that has been criticized by Poland, Ukraine and the Trump administration. Berlin, however, has said it will alsoincrease US LNG imports. Factor in Poland's awkward relationship with the EU and its cozying up to Washington, the role of LNG as a bargaining chip in the US-EU trade spat and Germany's gas links with Moscow and energy security starts to look more complicated



End of an era

The Polish oil and gas company PGNiG's 1997 Yamal contract with Russia's main gas company Gazprom expires in December 2022, but the decision whether to extend it must be taken by 2019 and Warsaw has already said it won't. Poland is the seventh-largest gas consumer in the EU, using around 17 billion cubic meters (bcm) of gas a year (about 20-25 percent of Germany's consumption). It imports over half of that from Gazprom.

Gas demand within Poland is set to rise as coal-driven electricity is replaced by gas-driven plants and Warsaw plans to make Poland a gas hub for the Central and Eastern Europe region and maybe also Ukraine. Poland is planning the construction of new gas links to the Czech Republic and Slovakia (scheduled for 2019), Lithuania (2021) and with Denmark (2022). A new gas pipeline to Ukraine is also under consideration.

(snip)

https://www.dw.com/en/us-trumps-russian-gas-as-poland-eyes-gazprom-exit/a-45981553

BumRushDaShow

(134,078 posts)
8. It's like a psyops thing going on with Putin and the EU
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 05:00 PM
Apr 2022

Nibbling around the edges.

Germany is up shit's creek (with respect to the LNG) and may end up being the EU's weakest link (despite being its strongest economy). The Netherlands might similarly be near SOL although they have more diverse sources of their energy but are still the largest European importer of oil from Russia.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,815 posts)
9. To Bulgaria too
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 05:04 PM
Apr 2022

At same link:

The Bulgarian Energy Ministry also said it had been informed deliveries would be suspended from Wednesday.
...
Bulgaria, which relies on Gazprom for more than 90% of its gas supply, said it had taken steps to find alternative sources but no restrictions on gas consumption were currently required.

The country's energy ministry said Bulgaria had fulfilled its obligations under the current contract with Gazprom and made all required payments.

It added that the new payment system proposed by Russia was in breach of the existing contract.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
10. Russia's gas company Gazprom is also halting gas deliveries to Bulgaria,
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 05:04 PM
Apr 2022

AFP reported. In addition to Poland, Gazprom has announced that it would stop delivering gas to Bulgaria after demanding that countries pay for gas in rubles. Gazprom executives were quoted by Russian news agencies as saying “Poland must pay for gas supplies according to the new payment procedure”. However, it was not immediately clear whether Bulgaria has refused to pay in rubles as well.

“Bulgargaz received a notification today, April 26, that natural gas supplies from Gazprom Export will be suspended starting April 27,” Bulgaria’s economy ministry said in a statement.


Bulgaria’s energy ministry also said Tuesday that its state-owned gas operators Bulgargaz and Bulgartransgaz “have undertaken steps for alternative agreements for natural gas deliveries and for coping with the current situation”.

Bulgaria is almost completely dependent on Russia for its annual consumption of about 3.0 billion cubic metres of gas.

IronLionZion

(46,037 posts)
11. If nobody else buys their oil and gas
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 05:35 PM
Apr 2022

then Russia is just continuing to North Korea themselves. Good job

Martin68

(23,664 posts)
16. Putin has his sights set on Poland. He made that clear in his 2021 speech about Ukraine.
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 10:14 PM
Apr 2022

if he is not stopped in Ukraine, Moldavia and Poland are next.

 

Shanti Shanti Shanti

(12,047 posts)
18. "Russia cuts off major gas supply to Poland, Bulgaria", now it gets real for Europe
Wed Apr 27, 2022, 10:31 AM
Apr 2022

Russia supplied 46% of Polands and 80% of Bulgarias gas, they say other countries will step up to help with their energy needs

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