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BumRushDaShow

(169,759 posts)
Tue May 3, 2022, 11:34 AM May 2022

Roberts says leaked Alito draft opinion is authentic but not final, opens leak investigation

Source: Washington Post


WASHINGTON, DC - OCTOBER 1: Chief Justice of the United States John Roberts escorts Associate Justice Amy Coney Barrett after an investiture ceremony at the Supreme Court on Friday, Oct. 01, 2021 in Washington, DC. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)


Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. said in a statement Tuesday that the leaked draft opinion that proposes overturning Roe v. Wade is authentic but not final, and he is opening an investigation into how it became public.

“To the extent this betrayal of the confidences of the Court was intended to undermine the integrity of our operations, it will not succeed,” Roberts said. “The work of the Court will not be affected in any way.” While the statement said the draft provided to Politico was genuine, “it does not represent a decision by the Court or the final position of any member on the issues in the case.”

The Politico report said that five justices had decided to uphold a Mississippi law that would ban abortions after 15 weeks, and overturn the decision that established a right to abortion nearly 50 years ago.

The press release was another extraordinary development in the court’s normal procedures, which generally is to pay no attention to outside influences. It was a sign that Roe v. Wade is too important, and the breach of Supreme Court too monumental, to ignore.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/03/supreme-court-leak-investigation-abortion-roe-wade/






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JUST IN: The Supreme Court confirms the authenticity of the draft opinion revealed last night by Politico. The chief justice has ordered an investigation into the leak.
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11:19 AM · May 3, 2022




Original article -

Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. said in a statement Tuesday that the leaked draft opinion that proposes overturning Roe v. Wade is authentic but not final, and he is opening an investigation into how it became public.

“To the extent this betrayal of the confidences of the Court was intended to undermine the integrity of our operations, it will not succeed,” Roberts said. “The work of the Court will not be affected in any way.” While the statement said the draft provided to Politico was genuine, “it does not represent a decision by the Court or the final position of any member on the issues in the case.”

The Politico report said that five justices had decided to uphold a Mississippi law that would ban abortions after 15 weeks, and overturn the decision that established a right to abortion nearly 50 years ago.

This is a developing story and will be updated.


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Roberts says leaked Alito draft opinion is authentic but not final, opens leak investigation (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2022 OP
SCOTUS today is just another damn political party!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2022 #1
SCOTUS has always been a political outfit hueymahl May 2022 #34
Sadly, quite true! The scales of justice get a new weight alignment each political season. RKP5637 May 2022 #36
Supreme Court says yesterday's leaked report is authentic LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #2
I still wonder if it was leaked on purpose to see the pulse of the nation before some final RKP5637 May 2022 #3
I wondered the same thing. infullview May 2022 #20
SCOTUS is now a political arm of the GOP, so yes, I bet there are lots of strategy discussions RKP5637 May 2022 #23
Yep! Roberts himself through his clerk leaked it as a litmus test! machoneman May 2022 #30
Yep!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2022 #37
That he is more worried about the exposure than the ruling says a lot. Gore1FL May 2022 #4
If he wants to see a betrayal Ray Bruns May 2022 #11
+1000 llmart May 2022 #15
K&R!!! YES, He wants to appear to care about the law but pri #1 he is still an operative for the GOP RKP5637 May 2022 #25
sounds right Evolve Dammit May 2022 #26
He'll just push back the ruling til mid November The Grand Illuminist May 2022 #21
I don't think that's gonna work anymore jmowreader May 2022 #29
He can't. Ms. Toad May 2022 #35
Yup. sakabatou May 2022 #39
Exactly. He has always been concerned with his legacy which has benefited us at times. gldstwmn May 2022 #45
It's like Trump responding to news stories about his coddling up to Russia iemanja May 2022 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author jeffreyi May 2022 #6
I still have a gut feeling that either Brett or Amy will follow Roberts. oldsoftie May 2022 #7
Can't tell if it's a feeling or just hoping, but I think the final decision will be quite different. Hoyt May 2022 #12
Here's part of the leaked opinion..... they're basically saying Roe was invalid groundloop May 2022 #24
Alito explicitly states they are striking down both Miguelito Loveless May 2022 #32
Overturning Roe is the extreme way of deciding the Mississippi case onenote May 2022 #38
The Roberts Court is a Shit Hole Kangaroo Court BlueIdaho May 2022 #8
"Roe and Casey are unconstitutional pieces of shit that must be reversed!!!!" - Draft Opinion greenjar_01 May 2022 #9
Too late minstrel76 May 2022 #10
Great post! llmart May 2022 #17
x1000 usaf-vet May 2022 #22
He's one to use the word "betrayal", & the leaker gets the same privilege as Clarence, amiright? bucolic_frolic May 2022 #13
Oh Faux pas May 2022 #14
LOL "integrity" n/m BradAllison May 2022 #16
I'm missing Justice Ginsberg more each day. llmart May 2022 #18
Leaks FelineOverlord May 2022 #19
There should be no 'leaks' The Mouth May 2022 #27
always infuriated at the leak and leaker, because the info is true and factual. How f'd up is that? Evolve Dammit May 2022 #28
Standard operating procedure but yes it is f'd up. twodogsbarking May 2022 #31
Not one eyebrow raised when a sitting SCOTUS's wife, and possibly the sitting judge himself Scalded Nun May 2022 #33
+1 bucolic_frolic May 2022 #44
Maybe Ginni is the leaker. Marcuse May 2022 #40
Could Ginni Thomas have leaked it? Frances May 2022 #41
Matter for the FBI, no? bucolic_frolic May 2022 #42
Somebody in there needs to investigate Ginni BumRushDaShow May 2022 #43
Hope an Rebl2 May 2022 #46
They were probably planning an official release on Mother's Day. n/t malthaussen May 2022 #47
They are acting like they are in the running to win a Oscar. Emile May 2022 #48
Roberts is just pissed off that his seething hatred for women is now clear for all to see Novara May 2022 #49

hueymahl

(2,904 posts)
34. SCOTUS has always been a political outfit
Tue May 3, 2022, 01:03 PM
May 2022

Only rarely has it not blown with the political winds throughout history, at least with regard to high profile issues.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
36. Sadly, quite true! The scales of justice get a new weight alignment each political season.
Tue May 3, 2022, 01:27 PM
May 2022

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
3. I still wonder if it was leaked on purpose to see the pulse of the nation before some final
Tue May 3, 2022, 11:38 AM
May 2022

decision will be made.

infullview

(1,129 posts)
20. I wondered the same thing.
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:06 PM
May 2022

This may be a trial balloon to test public will. I think if outrage is big enough they may reconsider since it would be the end of conservative rule in this country after the next election.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
23. SCOTUS is now a political arm of the GOP, so yes, I bet there are lots of strategy discussions
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:19 PM
May 2022

going on. I think in the US, priorities center on politics, money and power. People IMO come last unless influences for what TPTB want.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
4. That he is more worried about the exposure than the ruling says a lot.
Tue May 3, 2022, 11:40 AM
May 2022

"To the extent this betrayal of the confidences of the Court was intended to undermine the integrity of our operations." is laughable coming from the Chief Justice who has presided over so much of the undermining.

Ray Bruns

(6,362 posts)
11. If he wants to see a betrayal
Tue May 3, 2022, 11:47 AM
May 2022

he should ask the three justices who testified they would uphold Roe and are now voting it down.

llmart

(17,622 posts)
15. +1000
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:01 PM
May 2022

Let's not pretend Roberts is any more than a "concerned Susan Collins". He wants to appear to care about the law.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
25. K&R!!! YES, He wants to appear to care about the law but pri #1 he is still an operative for the GOP
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:22 PM
May 2022

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
29. I don't think that's gonna work anymore
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:44 PM
May 2022

Now that this draft opinion is out, the liberals have a real reason to GOTV.

Poll after poll has stated the majority of the American people is fine with Roe, either because they support abortion rights or because they don’t approve of the government interfering in people’s personal lives to the extent a post-Roe Republican Party would. Now that it’s obvious the R’s are ready to turn America into a police state, Democratic politicians are going to look pretty good.

Ms. Toad

(38,639 posts)
35. He can't.
Tue May 3, 2022, 01:09 PM
May 2022

Opinions on all cases heard during the term are released during that term (early July, at the latest).

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
45. Exactly. He has always been concerned with his legacy which has benefited us at times.
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:56 PM
May 2022

But now he will be remembered as the presiding Chief Justice when Roe V. Wade was overturned. I do not think he can stomach it.

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
5. It's like Trump responding to news stories about his coddling up to Russia
Tue May 3, 2022, 11:41 AM
May 2022

by going after the journalists' sources. It's all about ignoring the underlying crime, which in this case is the Court's bastardizing itself to strip women of their rights.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
7. I still have a gut feeling that either Brett or Amy will follow Roberts.
Tue May 3, 2022, 11:43 AM
May 2022

And another question, if they allow the MS law; thats 15 weeks. How could they then just overturn Row? Doesnt there have to be a case to criminalize it in front of them to rule on?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. Can't tell if it's a feeling or just hoping, but I think the final decision will be quite different.
Tue May 3, 2022, 11:54 AM
May 2022

Still not acceptable.

groundloop

(13,849 posts)
24. Here's part of the leaked opinion..... they're basically saying Roe was invalid
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:20 PM
May 2022

The way I'm reading this is their contention is that since the right to an abortion isn't specifically mentioned in the Constitution nor codified by law that the Roe decision was invalid.







Miguelito Loveless

(5,752 posts)
32. Alito explicitly states they are striking down both
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:55 PM
May 2022
Roe and Casey as bad law. He also takes swipes at the next laws he intends to overturn; interracial marriage, contraceptives, and gay marriage. Also, pretty much all privacy statutes since privacy is not mentioned in the Constitution.

Stick a fork in the Republic, it is done.

onenote

(46,142 posts)
38. Overturning Roe is the extreme way of deciding the Mississippi case
Tue May 3, 2022, 01:34 PM
May 2022

The Court could, in theory, find a narrower argument for upholding the law. But there is a case in front of them that argues that the Mississippi law is valid because Roe was wrongly decided and should be overturned.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
9. "Roe and Casey are unconstitutional pieces of shit that must be reversed!!!!" - Draft Opinion
Tue May 3, 2022, 11:45 AM
May 2022

"We don't consider abortion a right because it cannot be squared with the deep and abiding history of the American people!"

Oh, it's just a draft, it could go either way. Tra la la!

Jaysus, they take everybody for fools, don't they?

minstrel76

(96 posts)
10. Too late
Tue May 3, 2022, 11:46 AM
May 2022

“To the extent this betrayal of the confidences of the Court was intended to undermine the integrity of our operations, it will not succeed,”

Sorry, Roberts. The "integrity" of your operations has already been undermined; by you and the other partisan hacks that were only able to sit on the highest court of the land because of political machinations of a fascist, Neo Confederate, insurrectionist, terrorist, extremist, sham of a political "party" that has declared war on women's rights and on anyone who disagrees with their backward, Christianist, dominionist, anti-science, anti-moral reasoning, and hateful worldview. Blessings to whoever the person was that leaked the draft, as they took a huge risk-possibly of their career and even their liberty, in order to further expose this kangaroo court for what it really is and to defend our democracy.

llmart

(17,622 posts)
17. Great post!
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:04 PM
May 2022

"integrity of our operations" - Here's a little hint for Roberts - that ship sailed with the Gore v. Bush decision and went downhill from there.

bucolic_frolic

(55,140 posts)
13. He's one to use the word "betrayal", & the leaker gets the same privilege as Clarence, amiright?
Tue May 3, 2022, 11:54 AM
May 2022

No consequences to any of them. Who really has no consequences? Outgoing Justice.

FelineOverlord

(3,851 posts)
19. Leaks
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:06 PM
May 2022

The replies to this tweet by Robert Barnes (WaPo SCOTUS reporter) are fantastic.


?s=20&t=ksMhg4GqkG99LwwAUuDeUw



?s=20&t=ksMhg4GqkG99LwwAUuDeUw

The Mouth

(3,414 posts)
27. There should be no 'leaks'
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:30 PM
May 2022

Because every Citizen should know *EVERYTHING* anyone working for our government does, the moment they do it, unless it involves a military battle in progress or the specific medical information of an otherwise identifiable person.

Everybody should know everything, with exceptions rare enough to be counted on two hands in the past 100 years.

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
28. always infuriated at the leak and leaker, because the info is true and factual. How f'd up is that?
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:33 PM
May 2022

Scalded Nun

(1,691 posts)
33. Not one eyebrow raised when a sitting SCOTUS's wife, and possibly the sitting judge himself
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:57 PM
May 2022

engage in insurrection and attempted overthrow of our government, but a document leak is cause for full investigatory mobilization to find the real evildoers.

Sure says a lot about that court's majority.

bucolic_frolic

(55,140 posts)
42. Matter for the FBI, no?
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:50 PM
May 2022

SCOTUS doesn't do investigatory work. Or at least I don't think it does.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
49. Roberts is just pissed off that his seething hatred for women is now clear for all to see
Wed May 4, 2022, 02:26 PM
May 2022

I can just about guarantee the final version of this opinion will be watered down in tone versus the seething tone in this draft.

Have you ever written a furious email to someone and then toned it down before you sent it? I have. It's cathartic to let out all of the vitriol. But by the time I hit "send," I've moderated my tone quite a bit.

Alito is pissed off that we got to see all his white-hot seething hatred for women in this draft. The leaker exposed him for the rabid misogynist many suspected him of being, but most of us had no idea it ran this deeply. That's why he is pissed off. He's been exposed in no uncertain terms.

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