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C Moon

(12,213 posts)
Sun May 15, 2022, 06:01 PM May 2022

Multiple People Hit in Shooting at Laguna Woods Church; Suspected Shooter in Custody

Last edited Sun May 15, 2022, 08:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: NBC Los Angeles

The gun used in the shooting has been recovered, according to the Orange County Sheriff's Department.

Multiple people have been hit during a shooting at a church in the Laguna Woods area of Orange County, according to the Orange County Sheriff's Department.

The shooting occurred at Geneva Presbyterian Church, located at 24301 El Toro Road.

A suspect is in police custody, the OCSD said. They have not yet been identified.



Read more: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/multiple-people-hit-in-shooting-at-laguna-woods-church-suspected-shooter-in-custody/2893860/



It's just another day.

Update:

The latest is that it was a meeting of Asian churchgoers.

"One person was dead and five others were injured in a shooting during a meeting of Asian churchgoers in Southern California Sunday, the Orange County Sheriff's Department said."

"Police sources said the man detained is in his 60s and of Asian descent. They stressed that the investigation was in its very preliminary stages and they have not determined motive."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/multiple-victims-reported-person-detained-california-church-shooting-rcna28937
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Multiple People Hit in Shooting at Laguna Woods Church; Suspected Shooter in Custody (Original Post) C Moon May 2022 OP
Laguna Woods . . . Richard D May 2022 #1
Ima gonna make a guess: ret5hd May 2022 #2
I know what you mean. Laguna Woods is a well-to-do city in So Cal, so we'll see. C Moon May 2022 #3
laguna woods is VERY white doesn't mean shooter is white though Demovictory9 May 2022 #10
Right you are: it turns out it was a meeting of Asian churchgoers. C Moon May 2022 #24
Asians probably 2nd largest group in that area Demovictory9 May 2022 #34
Non-white shooters tend not to be captured alive. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2022 #22
Exactly my point. ret5hd May 2022 #31
looking at the church's facebook page lapfog_1 May 2022 #6
It's a retirement area. Richard D May 2022 #7
My first thought is that it was a relationship thing. Seems to happen a lot in OC. C Moon May 2022 #9
its a retirement community like the villages in Florida Demovictory9 May 2022 #11
There were many Asian Americans in this church though SouthBayDem May 2022 #16
Presbyterians usually are. paleotn May 2022 #18
And you're wrong this time, MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #29
Nope, here is what the police said: Escurumbele May 2022 #30
Jeff Tiedrich knew the shooter was white... Dr. Strange May 2022 #32
Except he wasn't BradAllison May 2022 #52
Don't you dare argue with Jeff Tiedrich! Dr. Strange May 2022 #53
Captured shooter is Asian. No specific nationality given. wnylib May 2022 #33
Full Flower Moon BumRushDaShow May 2022 #4
Goddamn! The gun-crazies are really coming down the mountain! Aristus May 2022 #5
I looked up the shooting on Twitter and saw a post by a rwn. C Moon May 2022 #14
They have been saying it since Sandy Hook and before. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2022 #23
1 death, four injured (so far) Richard D May 2022 #8
Live camera of.church from air Demovictory9 May 2022 #15
The most recent count is 5 hurt ancianita May 2022 #19
Every day now eh? IronLionZion May 2022 #12
Same Gun Violence Shit different Cha May 2022 #13
Wait. Which shooting is this again? Hassin Bin Sober May 2022 #17
From the L.A. Times - A Taiwanese congregation and shooter. Richard D May 2022 #20
Wait. Amazon sells a mystery novel of the same name. ancianita May 2022 #21
...from the churches, to the markets,... LudwigPastorius May 2022 #25
John 15:18 VarryOn May 2022 #26
1:9 Bernardo de La Paz May 2022 #37
Or 1:9 muriel_volestrangler May 2022 #38
Thank you, Bernardo... VarryOn May 2022 #46
Guessing DV incident obamanut2012 May 2022 #27
DV equals Digital Video. What does that have to do with it? Bernardo de La Paz May 2022 #36
Domestic Violence onenote May 2022 #40
Thanks. I haven't heard anything in relation to that. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2022 #42
There was a shooting today in Texas... Mozeltov Cocktail May 2022 #28
According to wiki, there have been 237 mass shootings so far this year, 245 niyad May 2022 #35
I thought it was unusual to have 3 of these in 2 days. thesquanderer May 2022 #41
I doubt it. Sandy Hook, Parkland, Pulse, Las Vegas, etc., on and on ad infinitum, 5 niyad May 2022 #43
1-2 mass shootings a day might be seen very differently from 1-2 mass shootings a year. thesquanderer May 2022 #45
You give them far more credit for intelligence and connection than I do. niyad May 2022 #48
I tell you.... AngryOldDem May 2022 #39
Little about Winston-Salem either. niyad May 2022 #44
"The visiting pastor struck the suspect with a chair, knocking him to the ground." dalton99a May 2022 #47
"Churchgoers hogtie gunman" milestogo May 2022 #51
C Moon..... Upthevibe May 2022 #49
I live about 2 miles from that church. cynical_idealist May 2022 #50

Richard D

(8,754 posts)
1. Laguna Woods . . .
Sun May 15, 2022, 06:03 PM
May 2022

. . . is in large part populated by residents of Laguna Woods Village, a retirement area.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
3. I know what you mean. Laguna Woods is a well-to-do city in So Cal, so we'll see.
Sun May 15, 2022, 06:04 PM
May 2022

(whoops: I thought it was Laguna Niguel. It's Laguna Woods). I'm guessing it's about the same.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
24. Right you are: it turns out it was a meeting of Asian churchgoers.
Sun May 15, 2022, 07:59 PM
May 2022

One person was dead and five others were injured in a shooting during a meeting of Asian churchgoers in Southern California Sunday, the Orange County Sheriff's Department said.

lapfog_1

(29,204 posts)
6. looking at the church's facebook page
Sun May 15, 2022, 06:10 PM
May 2022

it would appear that most people that attend this church are both white and older (almost elderly).

SouthBayDem

(32,024 posts)
16. There were many Asian Americans in this church though
Sun May 15, 2022, 07:20 PM
May 2022

The Orange County Register reported:

Undersheriff Jeff Hallock said many of the 30 or so people who were in the church when shots rang out were of Taiwanese descent.


Orange County has pockets of Asian communities (Westminster, Irvine, Tustin for instance).

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
18. Presbyterians usually are.
Sun May 15, 2022, 07:31 PM
May 2022

White. Not necessarily elderly. Much of my maternal extended family are Presbyterians.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,378 posts)
29. And you're wrong this time,
Sun May 15, 2022, 09:24 PM
May 2022

police say the suspect is Asian.

A Taiwanese congregation was in the church at the time of the shooting, Undersheriff Jeff Hallock said. Authorities are interviewing more than 30 people who were inside the church at the time. The victims were described as mostly Asian and mostly of Taiwanese descent, authorities said.

A law enforcement source said officials believe the suspect was a 68-year-old Asian man who is originally from Las Vegas. No other details were available.

Escurumbele

(3,392 posts)
30. Nope, here is what the police said:
Sun May 15, 2022, 09:42 PM
May 2022

"Police sources said the man detained is in his 60s and of Asian descent. They stressed that the investigation was in its very preliminary stages and they have not determined motive."

wnylib

(21,465 posts)
33. Captured shooter is Asian. No specific nationality given.
Sun May 15, 2022, 10:22 PM
May 2022

The church members are Taiwanese Presbyterians.

Aristus

(66,367 posts)
5. Goddamn! The gun-crazies are really coming down the mountain!
Sun May 15, 2022, 06:08 PM
May 2022

Trying so desperately to start their beloved, long-anticipated "race war".

I think they're going to get much more than they bargained for when they get thrown into GenPop. They won't have their guns when that happens, but that's the risk you have to run sometimes...

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
14. I looked up the shooting on Twitter and saw a post by a rwn.
Sun May 15, 2022, 07:16 PM
May 2022

He was saying it’s the “deep state” setting up these shootings so they can push a gun control bill through the senate. Friggin’ nuts!

Richard D

(8,754 posts)
20. From the L.A. Times - A Taiwanese congregation and shooter.
Sun May 15, 2022, 07:38 PM
May 2022

A Taiwanese congregation was in the church at the time of the shooting, Undersheriff Jeff Hallock said. Authorities are interviewing more than 30 people who were inside the church at the time. The victims were described as mostly Asian and mostly of Taiwanese descent, authorities said.

A law enforcement source said officials believe the suspect was a 68-year-old Asian man who is originally from Las Vegas. No other details were available.

According to its website, the Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian Church usually holds a 10 a.m. service at Geneva.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
26. John 15:18
Sun May 15, 2022, 08:05 PM
May 2022

Ecclesiastes 1 (first chapter, verse nine...for some reason DU inserts an emoji when I type the numbers)

The first two verses that came to mind when I heard about this.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
37. 1:9
Mon May 16, 2022, 05:24 AM
May 2022

1 gives you the yum emoji (1 colon 9). (But not in title lines which get special processing).

1:9 gives you 1 colon 9. I wrote 1 colon open-sq-bracket b close open slash b close 9. That puts a non printing something in between the colon and 9.

Is your browser Firefox? Mine does that. Also double quote parenthesis gives a smiley emoji &quot . So I usually just put a space: " ).

Likewise you could put a space: 1: 9.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
46. Thank you, Bernardo...
Mon May 16, 2022, 09:50 AM
May 2022

I use Chrome. I’ve never encountered that issue.

I’m not a big emoji guy. My son and wife are. Half the time they text me, I don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. It give me a good excuse at times when I’ve failed to follow a command via text!

Mozeltov Cocktail

(200 posts)
28. There was a shooting today in Texas...
Sun May 15, 2022, 08:23 PM
May 2022

At a flea market...2 killed, 3 wounded...the Laguna shooting brings us to 200 mass shootings in the first 19 weeks of 2022 or roughly 10 a week...

niyad

(113,303 posts)
35. According to wiki, there have been 237 mass shootings so far this year, 245
Mon May 16, 2022, 12:37 AM
May 2022

dead, 951 wounded. It is day 130 of the year. So, roughly 1.8 per day (note this is only the mass shootings).

WE'RE #1!!

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
41. I thought it was unusual to have 3 of these in 2 days.
Mon May 16, 2022, 08:45 AM
May 2022

If there are 1 or 2 every day, why aren't we seeing these in the news?

If EVERY SINGLE DAY there was a front page story about "today's" mass shooting, I bet many people would start being afraid to go anywhere. Maybe reporting like that could actually prompt a much more of a public outcry of the need for stricter gun control laws. Maybe it would break down some of the resistance to gun control, and also make more people care about it who now may not give it much thought (because it "doesn't affect them&quot .

niyad

(113,303 posts)
43. I doubt it. Sandy Hook, Parkland, Pulse, Las Vegas, etc., on and on ad infinitum, 5
Mon May 16, 2022, 09:28 AM
May 2022

NOTHING wakes these people up. NOTHING changes.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
45. 1-2 mass shootings a day might be seen very differently from 1-2 mass shootings a year.
Mon May 16, 2022, 09:38 AM
May 2022

And I suspect that the average joe thinks this happens like maybe once a year. If it were seen as a daily occurrence, I think these people might really start to change their positions from "well, there's always going to be the occasional nutcase, we have to live with it" to "ohmigod, it's everywhere... which means it might actually happen to ME."

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
39. I tell you....
Mon May 16, 2022, 07:15 AM
May 2022

Between this, Roe, the fascists who are taking over, and the general idiocy I see on a daily basis, I’m about ready to just move into a goddamn cave and be done with this fucked up society. Nothing is ever going to change.

Almost all of the people shot this weekend were 60+. One is in his 90s. Live almost all your life peacefully only to be met with this. Can’t go to the damn grocery or to church without fearing for your life.

I’m done asking what’s wrong with this country, because we all know what it is.

(Oh…no mention of the shoot up at the Houston flea market? Did that get lost in the shuffle?)

Upthevibe

(8,051 posts)
49. C Moon.....
Mon May 16, 2022, 10:34 AM
May 2022

I live in Redondo Beach which is about an hour and 15 minutes from Laguna Woods.

It is an upper middle-class retirement community. My best friend's mom lives there and she (my best friend) and her wife live in Laguna Niguel which is very close by.

Also, one of my close friends (who's half-way retired but still has a kind of online business), is getting ready to move there (Laguna Woods) in less than two weeks.

Someone else posted it may have been a relationship situation and I'm inclined to think that may be a possibility as far a motive goes. I guess we'll hear more about it as the days go by.

cynical_idealist

(360 posts)
50. I live about 2 miles from that church.
Mon May 16, 2022, 11:36 AM
May 2022

The area is generally pretty safe and quiet, but you never know when someone will go crazy.

Choppers flying around all night. Not sure if they were looking for another suspect
or justifying their helicopter budget.

peace

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