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BumRushDaShow

(129,518 posts)
Mon May 16, 2022, 10:21 AM May 2022

Biden Approves Plan to Redeploy Several Hundred Ground Forces Into Somalia

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — President Biden has signed an order authorizing the military to once again deploy hundreds of Special Operations forces inside Somalia — largely reversing the decision by President Donald J. Trump to withdraw nearly all 700 ground troops who had been stationed there, according to four officials familiar with the matter. In addition, Mr. Biden has approved a Pentagon request for standing authority to target about a dozen suspected leaders of Al Shabab, the Somali terrorist group that is affiliated with Al Qaeda, three of the officials said.

Since Mr. Biden took office, airstrikes have largely been limited to those meant to defend partner forces facing an immediate threat. Together, the decisions by Mr. Biden, described by the officials on the condition of anonymity, will revive an open-ended American counterterrorism operation that has amounted to a slow-burn war through three administrations. The move stands in contrast to his decision last year to pull American forces from Afghanistan, saying that “it is time to end the forever war.” Mr. Biden signed off on the proposal by Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III in early May, officials said.

In a statement, Adrienne Watson, the National Security Council spokeswoman, acknowledged the move, saying it would enable “a more effective fight against Al Shabab.”“The decision to reintroduce a persistent presence was made to maximize the safety and effectiveness of our forces and enable them to provide more efficient support to our partners,” she said.Ms. Watson did not indicate the number of troops the military would deploy. But two people familiar with the matter said the figure would be capped at around 450.

That will replace a system in which the U.S. troops training and advising Somali and African Union forces have made short stays since Mr. Trump issued what Ms. Watson described as a “precipitous decision to withdraw.” The Biden administration’s strategy in Somalia is to try to reduce the threat from Al Shabab by suppressing its ability to plot and carry out complicated operations, a senior administration official said. Those include a deadly attack on an American air base at Manda Bay, Kenya, in January 2020.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/16/us/politics/biden-military-somalia.html

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Biden Approves Plan to Redeploy Several Hundred Ground Forces Into Somalia (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2022 OP
This may be one reason: Somalia's al-Shabab rebels attack African Union base yaesu May 2022 #1
I expect so BumRushDaShow May 2022 #2
I just found this too that happened last week BumRushDaShow May 2022 #5
The scope of the mission must be shotten99 May 2022 #3
Since the continent of Africa is considered unimportant by many in the U.S. BumRushDaShow May 2022 #4
Thanks DashOneBravo May 2022 #11
Not agreeing with this manicdem May 2022 #6
Let's get out Europe as well! BumRushDaShow May 2022 #8
Agreed manicdem May 2022 #9
Russia is a threat to our democracy and to democracy around the world. rockfordfile May 2022 #12
😲Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2022 #7
Ugh DashOneBravo May 2022 #10
Didn't we learn our lesson the last time we were there? former9thward May 2022 #13
Al Shabab are medievalist monsters. maxsolomon May 2022 #14

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
1. This may be one reason: Somalia's al-Shabab rebels attack African Union base
Mon May 16, 2022, 10:48 AM
May 2022

From May 3rd

MOGADISHU, Somalia — Somalia’s al-Shabab Islamic extremist rebels have attacked a military base of the African Union Transition Mission in Somalia, witnesses told The Associated Press.

The attack started early Tuesday when a vehicle rammed into the fence surrounding the base and exploded in El-Baraf, a strategic town 150 kilometers (93 miles) northeast of the capital Mogadishu in the Middle Shabelle region, residents said.

Somalia’s state media confirmed the attack and said the Burundi soldiers at the base repulsed it. Officials have not given an estimate of the numbers killed in the battle.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/somalias-al-shabab-rebels-attack-african-union-base/2022/05/03/4cd65fdc-cadd-11ec-b7ee-74f09d827ca6_story.html

BumRushDaShow

(129,518 posts)
2. I expect so
Mon May 16, 2022, 11:08 AM
May 2022

You have much of East Africa going through turmoil again and that includes Somalia's neighbor Ethiopia and their almost never-ending battle with Eritrea and now internally with the Tigray region that borders Eritrea.

BumRushDaShow

(129,518 posts)
5. I just found this too that happened last week
Mon May 16, 2022, 12:16 PM
May 2022
https://theglobalcoalition.org/en/communique-global-coalition-morocco/

(Blinken attended this)

Joint Communiqué by Ministers of the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS

The following statement was released by the Foreign Ministers of the Global Coalition to Defeat Daesh/ISIS following today’s meeting in Marrakesh, Morocco.

On May 11, 2022

The Ministers of the Global Coalition to Defeat Daesh/ISIS reconvened in Marrakesh, Morocco, today at the invitation of Moroccan Foreign Minister Nasser Bourita and U.S. Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken.

The Ministers welcomed the first Global Coalition to Defeat Daesh/ISIS meeting to be convened in Africa and reaffirmed their shared determination to continue the fight against Daesh/ISIS through both military and civilian-led efforts contributing to the enduring defeat of the terrorist group. Together the Ministers emphasized the protection of civilians as a priority and affirmed that international law, including international humanitarian law and international human rights law, as well as relevant UN Security Council resolutions, must be upheld under all circumstances.

(snip)

The Ministers also recognized the need to meet the evolving threat of Daesh/ISIS in Africa and welcomed the first three Africa Focus Group meetings, which took place in Brussels, Rome, and Marrakesh. Under the auspices of the Global Coalition to Defeat Daesh/ISIS, the Africa Focus Group will bolster the civilian-led counterterrorism capabilities of African members of the Defeat Daesh/ISIS Coalition by drawing upon the Coalition’s experiences in Iraq and Syria, and leveraging lessons learned, as appropriate, from the Defeat Daesh/ISIS campaign there to the African continent. This effort includes sharing assessments on the threat of Daesh/ISIS and other terrorist organizations on the African continent and coordinating and collaborating on the most effective and efficient methods to address these issues, including through proactive information sharing and border management, as well as stabilization, prevention and deradicalization projects. The Ministers stressed the need for the Africa Focus Group to foster synergies with other existing international, sub-regional and regional counterterrorism efforts and initiatives on the African continent.

The Ministers stressed the importance of addressing underlying causes to insecurity in Africa, while reiterating that any lasting solution to halting the spread of Daesh/ISIS on the continent will rely primarily on national authorities, as well as sub-regional and regional efforts and initiatives that acknowledge and address the political and economic drivers of conflict. The Ministers noted with concern the proliferation of non-State actors, including separatist movements, and the deployment in Africa of private military companies that generate destabilization and further vulnerability of African states and that ultimately favors Daesh/ISIS and other terrorist and violent extremist organizations. The Ministers also recalled that the Defeat Daesh/ISIS Coalition will continue to be a civilian-driven effort by, with, and through our African members, in line with the principles of national ownership, and in accord with the specific needs of African member states. The Ministers saluted the entry of Benin into the Defeat Daesh/ISIS Coalition, bringing the total number of members up to eighty-five. The Coalition’s efforts constitute an integral part of the global counterterrorism structure.

(snip)


They are trying to "nip stuff in the bud" because with all the focus on Russia/Ukraine, and the ME getting antsy because many there relied on Russia, you end up with a recipe for nascent groups to get going in the unstable parts of East Africa.

shotten99

(622 posts)
3. The scope of the mission must be
Mon May 16, 2022, 11:31 AM
May 2022

Clearly defined with achievable goals. If this doesn’t happen, it’s a recipe for disaster.

BumRushDaShow

(129,518 posts)
4. Since the continent of Africa is considered unimportant by many in the U.S.
Mon May 16, 2022, 12:05 PM
May 2022

in favor of prioritizing and promoting Europe, little is reported in the U.S. M$M about what is going on (outside of showing people in huts with flies crawling around their face, naked women, and children with distended bellies). Updates with respect to the State Department's interactions with leaders and organizations there are minimized, with a notable lack of intelligent, non-stereotypical reporting of their needs to secure their regions, despite the fact that yes, we ARE engaged with the continent.




US Mission to the AU
@US_AU
During visit w/ Commissioner @Bankole_Adeoye at @AUC_PAPS, Amb Lapenn, Dep Asst Sec of Def for African Affairs @chidi_blyden, and @WHNSC Sr Advisor @JDevermont paused to pay tribute to the sacrifices of AU soldiers, including tragic loss last week of Burundian troops in Somalia
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6:02 AM · May 13, 2022


As yaesu posted here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2917668 there was an attack on a base office for the African Union in Somalia (where the AU tries to keep many moving parts and pieces of the continent together), so this is most likely a response for a request for assistance.

Our State Department officials attended a conference last week focusing on making sure that groups like ISIS/ISIL/Daesh don't try to reconstitute and recruit in unstable countries in places like East Africa (including Ethiopia, Sudan, South Sudan, and Somalia).




Under Secretary Victoria Nuland
@UnderSecStateP
My @Coalition colleagues and I had productive discussions on confronting ISIS and its branches and networks in Africa, targeting ISIS leadership, ensuring there is no resurgence in Iraq and Syria, and preventing Afghanistan from being used as the basis for external attacks.
Under Secretary Nuland speaks into a microphone while sitting at a table next to a man.
Under Secretary Nuland delivers remarks from a table at the front of the room and is featured on a large screen behind her. Tables of other participants line both the left and right side of the room.
10:40 AM · May 12, 2022


that happened on May 12 in Marrakesh that included Blinken.

manicdem

(390 posts)
6. Not agreeing with this
Mon May 16, 2022, 12:40 PM
May 2022

Biden getting us out of Afghanistan was a smart move. Now hes getting us involved in another crap country somewhere else. I really gope this doesnt escalate into another afghanistan.

manicdem

(390 posts)
9. Agreed
Mon May 16, 2022, 01:54 PM
May 2022

We should reduce our forces in Europe as Europe increases their own defenses, it's about time. Especially since we know Russia's not the threat we previous thought.

Our money would be better spent in the US to fix our own problems here.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
12. Russia is a threat to our democracy and to democracy around the world.
Mon May 16, 2022, 10:48 PM
May 2022

Russia attacked our elections. Republicans colluded with those pos against our country.

DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
10. Ugh
Mon May 16, 2022, 02:03 PM
May 2022


Just my opinion. We are already out and if we put them there, they just grow.

700 ground troops mean how many civilian contractors?
Im not going to guess about the number of “other people “ that need supporting .

Those guys are always way out with no support close. It could be a disaster. Let the French keep helping .

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
14. Al Shabab are medievalist monsters.
Mon May 16, 2022, 11:36 PM
May 2022

Like the Taliban, they'll have no idea what to do when they take control but to violently impose an irrational theocracy.

If 450 Special Ops forces can target command and control while supporting Somali troops, let's try. It worked, pretty much, when the French did it in Mali.

There are 15 million Somalis who don't want Al Shabab running their country. 159,000 Somali-Americans, and millions of Kenyans, too.

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