Trump, Jr. winds up in felony poaching scandal in Utah after killing a bear baited with pastries

[Faygo Kid]

Source: Raw Story

Second-generation New York real estate heir Donald Trump, Jr. is caught up in yet another hunting scandal.

Utah hunting guide Wade Lemon is facing five years in prison for baiting a bear that was killed by Trump, Jr. on May 18, 2018, The Salt Lake Tribune reported Saturday.

But the New York developer may not have been familiar enough with western hunting to know about the felony poaching.

"Trump Jr. is not named in a recent filing against Lemon, but the DNR confirmed his identity as the person named in the felony complaint as Lemon’s “client” on the hunt. Prosecutors have indicated there was no evidence showing Trump Jr. would have known about the alleged baiting that went on during the hunt," the newspaper reported. "Without naming Trump Jr., Davis County Attorney Troy Rawlings said the hunter in the case 'was actually a victim and a now a possible witness in a fraudulent scheme to lead the hunter to believe it was actually a legitimate Wild West hunting situation.'". . .

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-jr-hunting-poacher

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Whether he was "aware" or not, he has slaughtered enough animals and lines of cocaine to disqualify himself from the human race.

[dchill]

1. Once again, he's the victim.

[riversedge]

34. I would think it would be Jr's responsibility to know the rules when hunting.

[Warpy]

38. That's the problem, nobody expects that guy to know anything.

Whoever led him to where the bait was laid will be hung out to dry. Junior will get his trophies and jet back to Daddy.

[TheBlackAdder]

42. Someone took a picture, implicating the Trump sons.

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[Grokenstein]

55. Oh, if only Joonyer and Ewik would have the same outcome as the Twits

[Glorfindel]

2. I always thought "ignorance of the law is no excuse"

but I guess that doesn't apply to tRumps or other repukes.

[bucolic_frolic]

9. +1

[PatSeg]

19. Trumps seem to be the exception to every rule

[Johnyawl]

24. It's not ignorance of the law...

from the article: "Prosecutors have indicated there was no evidence showing Trump Jr. would have known about the alleged baiting that went on during the hunt."

And now I've defended Don Jr and feel dirty, I think I'll go take a shower.

[yardwork]

64. It's a valid example of how well this family manipulates situations.

Did Jr. bother to find a reputable hunting outfit? No he did not. In fact I'd lay odds that he sought out a disreputable outfit who would let him do what he wanted, laws be damned. When the logical result happens Jr. is all what me?

[stopdiggin]

70. are there advertisements and 'rankings' available for disreputable

guides? kinda' like instead of 4.5 stars - you get 4.5 toilets? ----- -----

[yardwork]

71. Lol!

[Hoyt]

3. How low can you be to have a guide go out and capture a bear for you to kill?

Jr has grinned in photos after killing big cats, elephants, water buffaloes, and more.

[Dustlawyer]

44. I have a friend who has a shop next door to a taxidermist who sets up African hunting junkets.

That guy told me there are no big game cats etc to hunt in Africa. They raise them and then turn them loose in a fenced area for these rich pricks to come shoot for $50,000 - 100,000 grand. The whole thing is slaughter, not hunting. How can you take pride in hunting when my 12 year old grandson could do it.

[Hoyt]

47. People are sick sometimes. And Jr is at top of list with his dad.

[Calista241]

88. Yeah, I think the killing of Cecil the Lion changed a lot of 'hunts' for tourism purposes.

China has been raising Tigers in farm environments so people can eat Tiger Bone Soup. Who knows how humanely they're actually killing tigers over there.

[thecrow]

77. Didn't he kill that lion in Africa

which “somehow” went off the preserve?

[Hoyt]

79. Probably. He killed a cheetah for sure, saw the photo.

[DanieRains]

4. Jr. Is Too Stupid To Know He Was Doing Anything Wrong According To Mueller

Works for rich people....

Every time!

[ShazzieB]

17. Well, he IS pretty darned stupid. 😁

However many brain cells he started out with, I'm sure the number has decreased over the years of habitual coke snorting!

[sarcasmo]

5. Wade Lemon facing 5 years for baiting, and the Trump who killed the Bear will walk, UGH!

[pwb]

6. Shot at targets asshole.

Bless his heart though.

[Vinca]

7. Big he-man. Might as well trap a bear in a cage for the nasty creep.

The poor creature is probably a rug in the asshole's den.

[Evolve Dammit]

8. LOCK HIM UP! Such an arrogant prick; just like his orange father. Indicted yet?

[SergeStorms]

10. Maybe we should bait....

Jr. with an eightball...................

[Paladin]

11. A hunting guide, failing to disclose the location/substance of baiting to a client?

I don't buy it. Not for one second.

"Mr. Trump, I put a stack of donuts over in that cluster of aspens, about 50 yards away. That's where you need to be looking for a shot, because the bears really have a sweet tooth in this region."

Trump Jr. will probably get away with it, as usual.

[Walleye]

14. Yep they speak like mobsters. Preserving future deniability

[Evolve Dammit]

12. Like orange father, he enjoys death. Sick homo sapiens that deserve to be treated accordingly. nt

[IcyPeas]

13. bloodthirsty evil bastard

[Hugh_Lebowski]

15. Real men just go out into the woods alone with a sling and big rock

Track a Grizzly themselves, and then take it down, David Vs. Goliath-style.

Baiting and then shooting with a high-powered rifle is the most chicken-shit way to hunt EVER.

[KS Toronado]

16. Love to see Wade Lemon

get on the witness stand and tell the Court "Donnie Jr instructed me to buy a dozen donuts
for the hunt cause that's how we do it in upstate New York."

[LakeArenal]

18. That's an insult to the coke addicted.

[TreasonousBastard]

20. Long time ago a hunter said to this city kid when canned hunts came up...

"There's a world of difference between the thrill of the hunt and the kick in killing".

[SergeStorms]

33. Trumps just like to make things die.

Donald is a Pro at making businesses die. Marriages and other people's careers, too.
Come to think of it, TFG kills just about everything he touches.

Jr. is a special sort of punk though, because he requires guides to chain animals down, or bait them, so he can get his death fix. That truly is a weak, pitiful, shitty way to "hunt". I imagine Kimberly Gargoyle is proud of her "man" though. What a stud.

[speak easy]

83. 'Kim "tells me everything," including a graphic account of Kim having killed his uncle'

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-kim-jong-un-tells-me-everything-shared-story-about-having-his-uncle-killed-woodward-1530739

[peacefreak2.0]

21. Hey. Give the guy credit.

He shared his donuts 🍩

[jaxexpat]

22. Humanity is not a qualifying factor in Utah law.

Or in qualifications for elections for federal office holders.

[FakeNoose]

23. How much did Daddy pay to keep Jr's name off the indictment?

I mean ... the bear had to pay the highest price.

[calimary]

30. Daddy didn't pay. He charged it to his idiot donors.

[Demobrat]

25. Bull.

My only question is whether the guide was threatened or paid off.

On edit: Or both. Yeah. Probably both.

[mountain grammy]

26. Scum of the earth.. the family trump

[The Jungle 1]

27. We all know trump jr did not eat one piece of that meat.

It is kinda stupid to kill bears. The meat tastes just plain bad.

[Botany]

28. I suppose it was too much for cokehead Jr to know that he killed the bear out of season.

a bear that was killed by Trump, Jr. on May 18,

South Slope, Bonanza/Diamond Mtn/ Vernal May 21-June 26
South Slope, Yellowstone May 21-June 26
Wasatch Mtns, Avintaquin/Currant Creek May 21-June 26
Wasatch Mtns, West-Central May 21-June 26

That is this year's bear season so the kill might have been in season in 2018. BTW kill a female bear in the spring
you kill her cubs too.

I have hunted, fished, camped, and done outdoor "stuff" for years but to kill a
bear over bait sucks. And what do you do with a dead bear anyway?

[FakeNoose]

31. The poor innocent bear had to pay the highest price of all

He probably wasn't even a Repuke.

[Kali]

74. actually, depending on the bear's diet

they can be good eating. not that jr would or cares one shit about that.

[VGNonly]

29. "Take the fall Wade,

I'll make it worth your while, say $100,000."

[bluestarone]

32. This FUCKER has NOT hunted for anything his whole life, because

Everything he's killed was basically BAITED or hunted by his ASSHOLE GUIDES! What a poor fucking excuse for a hunter JR. is!

[SergeStorms]

35. Poor excuse for a human being as well.

Poor excuse for a husband, father, brother, son....just a poor excuse for everything.

[bluestarone]

36. For sure!

To add here. They ALL are the same. the whole fucking CULT!

[ColinC]

37. Jesus. What a fucking trash person.

[jmowreader]

39. There's got to be more to this than you see here

Bear baiting is legal in Utah. It’s also the hardest state to do it in.

I read the regulation, and there are very few violations of it that WOULDN’T open Don Don up to criminal liability.

On the other hand, if Worthless Fuck would have come to Idaho…no problem. About the only rule is that you can’t bait with pieces of game animals.

[turbinetree]

40. Baiting.....for a bear.....and he would not know....BS....

you mean to tell the world that these two didn't discuss anything.....I got a bridge....

[Lonestarblue]

41. What a disgusting excuse for a human being.

[JanMichael]

43. Forth or Fifth generation, right?

[SoCalDavidS]

45. But Hunter's Hard Drive nt

[milestogo]

46. Bear claws?

[IronLionZion]

48. There must be some charges for the Trump who pulled the trigger

his dad isn't president anymore so who's going to pardon him?

[JustAnotherGen]

49. Since when is ignorance

An excuse?

[keithbvadu2]

50. Troy Gentry, of Montgomery Gentry, 'hunted' and killed a tame bear.

Troy Gentry, of Montgomery Gentry, 'hunted' and killed a tame bear.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=montgomery+gentry+bear+killing

[sarcasmo]

51. Junior takes the kill shot and Lemon does the crime for laying the bait. Trump logic.

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[Harker]

52. How do you like them, eh?

Tied to a tree?

[Demovictory9]

53. Trump Jr. feels like a real man when dressed in camo and killing animals

[orleans]

54. oh jesus! trumpet is a "VICTIM???"

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!

Davis County Attorney Troy Rawlings said the hunter in the case 'was actually a victim

[truthisfreedom]

56. Trumplet?

[NickB79]

57. Odd. In a lot of states, bear baiting is fully legal

A friend of mine gets a veritable truckload of expired donuts and bread from his local bakery for black bear hunting in Northern MN.

[jmowreader]

63. In Utah they only allow it on controlled hunts

To go on a controlled hunt you have to apply in advance and be drawn in a lottery. Why he didn't come to Idaho is the mystery of our time - here you can bait bears all you want. You can also set out salt licks for deer and elk so long as you don't hunt within 100 feet of the salt lick.

[Xolodno]

58. I have a very strict view on hunting.

Wealthy people should not be hunting, they have no need to. My brother in law, is close to poverty's door, he hunts elk every year as its their main protein intake for the year. He only hunts what is the legal amount and reports anyone he suspects of poaching or taking more than they should. He doesn't want it ruined for himself due to some assholes. Of course if we had more equitable wages, he wouldn't have to hunt and he would be ok with that.

He also doesn't believe anyone should own a semi-auto. As for myself, when we visit, I enjoy the gift of elk when he gives it to me. But I make enough so I don't have any need to hunt. Not that I would want to anyway, taking a life never sits well with me.

[hbhall]

59. Hunter?

On behalf of my Adirondack relatives, who would never read D.U, but who hunt, fish and trap and have for generations, and look at me as being somewhat defective because I don't, they would consider Don Jr. as the biggest p.o.s in the woods if he tried this stuff around them. Take it from me, they take their wildlife seriously, and don't kill for the sake of killing. They eat what they kill. Who the fuck kills a bear and why?

[keithbvadu2]

60. Did Jr ever go on a hunt where he did NOT get a kill?

Did Jr ever go on a hunt where he did NOT get a kill?

Do they only hire guides who guaranty a kill?

[Drum]

61. On the other hand: Teddy Roosevelt and the Story of the Teddy Bear

https://www.nps.gov/thrb/learn/historyculture/storyofteddybear.htm

Did you know that the Teddy Bear was invented in honor of President Theodore Roosevelt? It all began when Theodore Roosevelt was on a bear hunting trip near Onward, Mississippi on November 14, 1902. Mississippi's Governor Andrew H. Longino had invited him, but unlike other hunters in the group, Theodore had not located a single bear.

Roosevelt's assistants, led by Holt Collier, a born slave and former Confederate cavalryman, cornered and tied a black bear to a willow tree. They summoned Roosevelt and suggested that he shoot it. Viewing this as extremely unsportsmanlike, Roosevelt refused to shoot the bear. The news of this event spread quickly through newspaper articles across the country. The articles recounted the story of the president who refused to shoot a bear. However, it was not just any president, it was Theodore Roosevelt the big game hunter!

Clifford Berryman, a political cartoonist, read the article and decided to lightheartedly satirize the president's refusal to shoot the bear. Berryman's cartoon appeared in the Washington Post on November 16, 1902. Morris Michtom, a Brooklyn candy shop owner, saw the cartoon and had an idea. He and his wife Rose also made stuffed animals, and Michtom decided to create a stuffed toy bear and dedicate it to the president who refused to shoot a bear. He called it 'Teddy's Bear'.

After receiving Roosevelt's permission to use his name, Michtom mass produced the toy bears which were so popular that he soon founded the Ideal Toy Company. To this day the Teddy Bear has worldwide popularity and its origin can be traced back to Theodore's fateful hunting trip in 1902.

[Tree Lady]

72. Thanks for the story

I have never heard it before and kudos to the president for sticking up for what is right and fair.

[GoldandSilver]

62. Donny Jr. is a disgusting human being in so many ways.

[Blue Owl]

65. Let's bait Jr. with a long line of coke

Leading right up to uncle Dick Cheney with his shotgun….

[Wonder Why]

66. If coke bottles and pastries will float,

we can put a line of them across the Bering Sea and bait Donald Sr to permanently move to his best friend Vlad's house.

[niyad]

67. Interesting way of identifying him "second generation real estate heir"

and "new york developer". What in the f'n hell is that rehab all about?

[Kali]

75. it translates to do-nothing rich kid if you know how to read it

and isn't he third gen?

[niyad]

84. Hmm, you are quite correct.

[Maine Abu El Banat]

68. It's his responsibility

To learn the state hunting laws. Everyone else has too.

[Emile]

69. Not a.very responsible gun owner. Ignorance of

the law is not an excuse.

[white cloud]

73. What should a hunter do to ensure legal hunting?

this is Texas state and federal laws regard baiting of birds.

What should a hunter do to ensure legal hunting?

Become familiar with state and federal migratory game bird hunting regulations.
Ask the landowner, hunting outfitter, or other responsible party, if the area has been baited.
Watch for unusual waterfowl behavior that may indicate baiting, even if you cannot see bait from your location.
Watch for bait and for signs of field manipulation unrelated to a normal grain harvest. This includes bait scattered in a moist soils management unit or wetland. These may appear to be naturally scattered, but could be baited.
Familiarize yourself with the normal agricultural practices for your hunting area.
Stop hunting immediately if you suspect or find evidence that you are hunting over bait.
Before you go hunting, you should know the law—state and federal. Familiarize yourself with what constitutes baiting as well as other prohibited practices. For example, “herding” waterfowl by using watercraft or other vehicles to drive them towards hunters is expressly forbidden. As with baiting, both outfitters and hunters may be subject to penalties at law enforcement discretion. If you have some doubt regarding any given practice, check with your local Texas Parks and Wildlife game warden or US Fish & Wildlife Service law enforcement personnel.

https://agrilifeextension.tamu.edu/library/wildlife-nature-environment/restrictions-on-waterfowl-hunting-and-baiting/

[blueinredohio]

76. Knowing it was a Trump

the guide should have turned him down as a client. If he's a Trump supporter then too bad.

[COL Mustard]

78. Ignorance of the law is no excuse

Or so I've always heard. But maybe it only applies to us little people.

[catbyte]

80. Just when I think they can't get any more despicable, they again prove me wrong.

[keithbvadu2]

86. Went hunting. Saw a lion.

[Marcuse]

81. Tough Guy

[Kid Berwyn]

82. "Bear baited with pastries."

Looking down at us from 10,000 feet, Dimdonnie Jr holds happy thoughts of vanished wildlife.

[Beartracks]

85. This sounds like when Dick Cheney went quail "hunting."

Shooting captive (or was it clipped?) birds that were simply released into the bush. Apparently, it's so unchallenging that he had to shoot his friend in the face to feel some excitement.

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[Calista241]

87. I think the state considers Trump Jr a 'victim' in this case.

And they're going to have to call him as a witness in the case against the guide.

[UT_democrat]

89. lol

The wealthy don't need to follow the rules. Wade Lemon will do his time (unless a republican judge lets him off) and Jr. will continue to float through the world without a care.