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BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
Tue May 24, 2022, 08:08 PM May 2022

Herschel Walker, Raphael Warnock to face off in crucial Georgia Senate rac

Source: NBC News

ATLANTA — Former football star Herschel Walker has clinched Georgia’s Republican nomination for Senate, NBC News projects setting up a general election against Sen. Raphael Warnock, the Democratic incumbent who also won his party’s primary Tuesday.

The race is projected to be one of the most competitive in the nation, and will be a rare case of two Black candidates competing in a critical Senate contest. With the Senate split 50-50 between Democrats and Republicans, both parties see Georgia as a must-win.

Deep Republican red for years, the state favored Democrat Joe Biden over then-President Donald Trump by a narrow margin in the 2020 presidential election before sending two Democrats to the Senate — including Warnock in a special election — in 2021.

Now, with Warnock seeking a full term, the GOP has turned to Walker, an icon in the state who won the Heisman trophy as a standout at the University of Georgia. Trump, seeking revenge and influence in a state that’s now a top-tier battleground, encouraged Walker to run. The two have a history: In the 1980s, Walker played for Trump’s New Jersey Generals franchise in the now-defunct United States Football League before moving on to the NFL.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/herschel-walker-raphael-warnock-face-crucial-georgia-senate-race-rcna30185

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Herschel Walker, Raphael Warnock to face off in crucial Georgia Senate rac (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2022 OP
I wonder if TFG will refer to Hershel as " my black man"? kimbutgar May 2022 #1
Or BumRushDaShow May 2022 #3
Or 'Hershey' Walker peppertree May 2022 #25
LOL BumRushDaShow May 2022 #29
Only in public. LudwigPastorius May 2022 #22
I don't doubt your opinion. kimbutgar May 2022 #23
Rev Warnock keeps texting me. I gotta get him that donation. ancianita May 2022 #2
"but I also remember they didn't help Obama much when he ran" BumRushDaShow May 2022 #4
He had to. I found out that the party was not funding him and so made sure that my full donation ancianita May 2022 #5
I normally donate directly BumRushDaShow May 2022 #6
Only after he won a key primary. That right there taught me. ancianita May 2022 #7
Well I maxed my donation to him in 2008 BumRushDaShow May 2022 #8
Me, too. ancianita May 2022 #12
A few months ago I went to a dem candidate's site to donate & I was redirected to Act Blue. CrispyQ May 2022 #37
Thanks. I got a direct mailing form from Warnock, so I'll just sent a check back. ancianita May 2022 #38
I can't believe how really stupid Hershel sounds......heard him today, reporters found him a kennedy May 2022 #9
What's even more ugh BumRushDaShow May 2022 #11
But he graduated in the top 1% of his class at UGa, just ask him...... groundloop May 2022 #13
I know, and I can not believe he is the repub choice. 🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy May 2022 #14
Really? Probatim May 2022 #19
Well Rebl2 May 2022 #17
Yeah, Walker wears his stupid everywhere he goes. Trueblue Texan May 2022 #32
One stupid fuck vs. a compassionate, articulate real Christian. Even odds. Go figure Amuricuh. Evolve Dammit May 2022 #10
Well, Georgia football. SergeStorms May 2022 #26
I still can't believe Reagan, a C actor got elected... Ironically Pres. of Screen Actors Guild/union Evolve Dammit May 2022 #36
The GOP literally voted for a dumb jock. Dawson Leery May 2022 #15
Good freaking god, we have to mop the floor with this loser! Initech May 2022 #16
GD Georgians are just a fucking stupid as the GD Alabamians I have to put up with here. Ferrets are Cool May 2022 #18
They aren't so stupid... Trueblue Texan May 2022 #33
If Walker wins this election against Warnock, Mr.Bill May 2022 #20
It is very clear why Walker is the nominee nowforever May 2022 #21
That's what they thought about Kanye West. Exploiting the mentally ill again for political purposes. Marcuse May 2022 #24
Guess they didn't notice Warnock is also black?nt Trueblue Texan May 2022 #34
I don't know which is more sad jgmiller May 2022 #27
Rachel Maddow has said that Raphael Warnock is the most articulate member of Congress Rhiannon12866 May 2022 #28
I agree, Warnock is exceptional. SouthernDem4ever May 2022 #31
I don't know if I'd go so far to say Walker is corrupt - he didn't even know who John Lewis was! Rhiannon12866 May 2022 #39
ok, take your pick, Walker is either really dumb SouthernDem4ever May 2022 #41
"some democratitic voters will vote for him" BumRushDaShow May 2022 #30
This race shouldn't even be close, but Walker will probably win. RedSpartan May 2022 #35
If Zelenskyy can keep on fighting, so can we. GoldandSilver May 2022 #40
Well if we can get billions from the EU and NATO we might win too. JanMichael May 2022 #43
We Georgia Democrats are going to re-elect Senator Warnock. CottonBear May 2022 #42

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
29. LOL
Wed May 25, 2022, 04:28 AM
May 2022

I don't remember that but then I stopped looking at anything uttered by 45 so I probably missed that.

ancianita

(36,048 posts)
2. Rev Warnock keeps texting me. I gotta get him that donation.
Tue May 24, 2022, 08:13 PM
May 2022

I'm sure the party is helping his campaign, but I also remember they didn't help Obama much when he ran.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
4. "but I also remember they didn't help Obama much when he ran"
Tue May 24, 2022, 08:19 PM
May 2022

IIRC, Obama had a record fund-raising haul because he sortof perfected the "grassroots individual donor" thing that is common now.

I think in this case, we have too much to lose if we don't hold the Senate and/or the House.

ancianita

(36,048 posts)
5. He had to. I found out that the party was not funding him and so made sure that my full donation
Tue May 24, 2022, 08:23 PM
May 2022

went directly to him.

That "grassroots thing" has been the party's cover for its lousy ground game. It even refused to use Howard Dean's 50 state strategy when he tried to restructure the party's spending efforts.

So I'm going to keep donating directly because party brokers like ActBlue don't do enough to supplement party support. Just my opinion.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
6. I normally donate directly
Tue May 24, 2022, 08:33 PM
May 2022

but as a note - Obama did benefit from Dean's "50 state strategy" which is why he won so many states (including places like FL, IN, NC, and IA, and almost had MO).



We haven't been able to match that since!

I didn't follow what the party did as closely for the 2012 election and I expect that is when they fled and left him hanging - notably after the 2010 fiasco when Dems sadly ran away from the ACA.

Biden clawed some of it back but not all of it -

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
8. Well I maxed my donation to him in 2008
Tue May 24, 2022, 08:46 PM
May 2022

($5,000) although it wasn't done through Act Blue.

And yeah, I do remember early on when he had little support from the party - where my own Congressman at the time was one of the few who endorsed him from day one. And that was because they were firmly behind Clinton once John Edwards dropped out.

And sadly, since I joined DU in Feb. that year, I know that DU was just horrible with the "primary wars".

ancianita

(36,048 posts)
12. Me, too.
Tue May 24, 2022, 08:57 PM
May 2022

And yes, DU was. It's been better in recent primary wars. Still. Too many get too personal, don't stick to issues or candidate records, and don't stay mutually supportive of other candidates.
Glad we got special primary rules.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
37. A few months ago I went to a dem candidate's site to donate & I was redirected to Act Blue.
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:18 AM
May 2022

Last edited Wed May 25, 2022, 12:19 PM - Edit history (1)

???

Like you, I wanted to donate directly, but evidently that candidate was letting AB do the transaction for them.

on edit: I just went to Senator Warnock's campaign site & it also redirects to Act Blue. I guess it's a trend.

https://warnockforgeorgia.com

ancianita

(36,048 posts)
38. Thanks. I got a direct mailing form from Warnock, so I'll just sent a check back.
Wed May 25, 2022, 12:47 PM
May 2022

I'll probably use ActBlue for Jessica Cisneros in Texas, who's running against the pro-NRA, anti-abortion Dem, Henry Cuellar. It totally pisses me off that Pelosi & Clyburn support him just because he's an incumbent Democrat, so even tho' I can't vote there, I'm donating to his opponent to register my objection to what I consider a poor leadership decision. Women of Texas need better support than Cuellar.

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
9. I can't believe how really stupid Hershel sounds......heard him today, reporters found him
Tue May 24, 2022, 08:46 PM
May 2022

and talked to him after he voted.......ugh, stupid indeed.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
13. But he graduated in the top 1% of his class at UGa, just ask him......
Tue May 24, 2022, 09:03 PM
May 2022


(He never actually graduated).

Trueblue Texan

(2,429 posts)
32. Yeah, Walker wears his stupid everywhere he goes.
Wed May 25, 2022, 07:31 AM
May 2022

I love it that 2 black men with such dramatically contrasting levels of intelligence and style are duking it out in the national political arena. It's a battle that will make it impossible to make sweeping generalizations about black people. Walker will make Senator Warnock's star shine all the brighter.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
26. Well, Georgia football.
Wed May 25, 2022, 12:04 AM
May 2022

So there you go. It's not difficult to see what's important for Georgia's republican voters.

Intelligence and suitability for the job never enter into the equation.

Trueblue Texan

(2,429 posts)
33. They aren't so stupid...
Wed May 25, 2022, 07:35 AM
May 2022

They got Warnock and Ossoff as senators. I think Walker is the candidate we would hope would face off with Warnock. Warnock will squish him like a bug. I suspect plenty of Dems crossed over to vote for Walker in the primary just so they could watch that ass whoopin'.

nowforever

(302 posts)
21. It is very clear why Walker is the nominee
Tue May 24, 2022, 10:35 PM
May 2022

The GOP is calculating that he will draw some black voters and thus insure a victory.

Marcuse

(7,479 posts)
24. That's what they thought about Kanye West. Exploiting the mentally ill again for political purposes.
Tue May 24, 2022, 11:10 PM
May 2022

jgmiller

(394 posts)
27. I don't know which is more sad
Wed May 25, 2022, 12:17 AM
May 2022

That the GOP has become so blatent in their race bating that the only reason they put up Walker in GA of all places is that he's a black football star or that it will actually work with some people.

I mean come on MTG's district will overwhelming re-elect her and I guarantee you they will vote for Walker overwhemlingly because he will be "their black guy" and if he wasn't who he was and happened to get caught speeding through one of their towns the local police would arrest him and keep him in jail for a few days.

It's just perverse and it's also perverse that some democratitic voters will vote for him over a highly educated and elloquent man of God (in the bible belt!) because he's a black football star.

Just when I think we as a country can't go lower we find new ways.

Rhiannon12866

(205,279 posts)
28. Rachel Maddow has said that Raphael Warnock is the most articulate member of Congress
Wed May 25, 2022, 02:05 AM
May 2022

This guy can barely speak - are they going to have a debate??

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
31. I agree, Warnock is exceptional.
Wed May 25, 2022, 05:50 AM
May 2022

He deserves to remain in the Senate. Walker, on the other had, can go back to the hole where trump found him. There must be a big snake pit where trump goes to pick candidates he'll support. The only requirement is they are as corrupt as he is.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
41. ok, take your pick, Walker is either really dumb
Fri May 27, 2022, 05:55 AM
May 2022

or corrupt by his support of the most corrupt politician on the planet right now.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
30. "some democratitic voters will vote for him"
Wed May 25, 2022, 05:46 AM
May 2022

Note that there are many, particularly AAs from the northeast, who have moved down there (and this includes several of my cousins and one of my aunts) - notably to the Atlanta metro area, for the lower cost of living and cheap housing. I remember when one of my former coworkers (who eventually moved back up here to Philly a few years ago) had emailed a pic of the house she had bought back when she had moved there almost 20 years ago, where she found a newer construction 2-story single with garage and 2nd floor deck (like a carriage house) that was $150K. That floored me because the style of house on about 1/3rd acre, would have easily been $500+K here in Philly at the time.

So I think the "bluing" of GA is similar to what happened with the "bluing" of NC - based on a northern migration to those states and those who moved there are not "regionally or culturally southern", and would not be hoodwinked by a Herschel Walker, who is a native there (like Clarence Thomas).

There's not enough of them there to flip the GOP state government control, but you see the impact of their presence in pockets in enough numbers to affect some state-wide races - like the U.S. Senate, where they managed to accomplish something that we have had a hard time doing here in PA - having 2 (D) Senators. Don't forget that the other Senator there is Jon Ossoff (D).

JanMichael

(24,885 posts)
43. Well if we can get billions from the EU and NATO we might win too.
Fri May 27, 2022, 07:48 AM
May 2022

Plus Ukraine's military has been active in urban warfare since 2014 so all they really needed was some high tech boom machines to thwart Putin's Orcs who had some numerical and machinery advantages.

So Ukraine only needed some hardware to start "winning" (winning in quotes because of the tragedy of total war), what do we need outside of GOTV?

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
42. We Georgia Democrats are going to re-elect Senator Warnock.
Fri May 27, 2022, 07:38 AM
May 2022

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