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groundloop

(11,519 posts)
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:00 AM May 2022

One place you won't find guns in the wake of the Texas school massacre? The NRA's upcoming ......

Source: Business Insider



One place you won't find guns in the wake of the Texas school massacre? The NRA's upcoming leadership conference in Houston this week.





One place you won't be able to find firearms in Texas after the Robb Elementary School massacre is, surprisingly, the National Rifle Association's upcoming forum in Houston on May 27.

According to a memo on the NRA's website, NRA members will not be able to bring their firearms to the Houston meeting.

The leadership forum is described as "one of the most politically significant and popular events in the country, featuring our nation's top Second Amendment leaders in government, the media, and the entertainment industry."

Confirmed speakers for the event include former President Donald Trump and Texas Gov. Greg Abbott. Other scheduled speakers include Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, Texas Rep. Dan Crenshaw, and South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem.

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/nra-conference-wont-allow-attendees-to-bring-their-guns-2022-5

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One place you won't find guns in the wake of the Texas school massacre? The NRA's upcoming ...... (Original Post) groundloop May 2022 OP
but, but,,,, n/t KarenS May 2022 #1
They know their members cannot be trusted keithbvadu2 May 2022 #2
Can the Secret Service protect schools? RainCaster May 2022 #3
The NRA isn't banning guns, the Secret Service is. And only for Trump's appearance. onenote May 2022 #4
Don't they realize that if a sniper attempts to shoot someone, the random Mr. Goodgunner NCjack May 2022 #12
That's not true. The NRA has always banned guns at their conventions. nt in2herbs May 2022 #15
You better tell the NRA that. This is from the NRA Website: onenote May 2022 #17
This is a 2018 NPR article: in2herbs May 2022 #18
Probably also Secret Service, not the NRA The Mouth May 2022 #19
Right.As I said, the Secret Service dictates when guns are allowed. onenote May 2022 #21
So the good members of NRA should boycott unless they're allowed to bring their toys groundloop May 2022 #27
Then the NRA should tell Trump not to attend......... Bengus81 May 2022 #16
Is tfg going to mock the dead children? C Moon May 2022 #31
Or, "Your fired!", MAGA crowd laughs! Ziggysmom May 2022 #39
There needs to be a mass demonstrations at all NRA events, but protestors must prepare for fascist yaesu May 2022 #5
How are they going to stay safe without guns??? Mysterian May 2022 #6
Well imagine Rebl2 May 2022 #7
Hollow point bullets maybe? KS Toronado May 2022 #28
Yep Rebl2 May 2022 #29
Where's the lawsuit? Texas is an open carry state. They sinkingfeeling May 2022 #8
it is the Secret Service that is banning the guns. onenote May 2022 #14
There will be no fighting in the war room Blue Owl May 2022 #9
An armed society is a polite society IronLionZion May 2022 #10
Good point The Mouth May 2022 #20
No, they would just hire armed security guards IronLionZion May 2022 #22
The City of Houston is the host. They own the George R. Brown Convention Center Ford_Prefect May 2022 #11
I don't think you understand aiding and abetting law. onenote May 2022 #13
I'm speaking in terms of Federal anti-terror statutes. Ford_Prefect May 2022 #26
And how do you intend to establish that the NRA is guilty of domestic terrorism onenote May 2022 #35
The evidence speaks for itself... Ford_Prefect May 2022 #37
In other words, you can't. onenote May 2022 #40
If your plan is to defend an organization which has worked since 1970 to achieve Ford_Prefect May 2022 #45
My plan is to see if there is actually a statutory basis for going after them onenote May 2022 #46
Hypocrisy much? calimary May 2022 #23
What? No open carry for the NRA folks? FakeNoose May 2022 #24
Attendees can carry guns except when a Secret Service protectee is present onenote May 2022 #42
Arm all of them ...everyone must carry a gun... MiHale May 2022 #25
NRA leadership has been demonstrably inept and corrupt.. the members know they've been screwed MissMillie May 2022 #30
Hell, tRump is afraid of fruit and pies BigmanPigman May 2022 #32
"Second amendment leaders"? GenThePerservering May 2022 #33
All the republicans who say the democrats are politicizing this Emile May 2022 #34
Well damn, I thought everyone packing at all times was the safest policy for everyone. OverBurn May 2022 #36
This nonsense comes up every year for the annual NRA convention. ManiacJoe May 2022 #38
Guns are not prohibited at the NRA convention except when a Secret Service protectee onenote May 2022 #41
Good place to toss a string of firecrackers, then. nt eppur_se_muova May 2022 #43
Exactly. This building owner allows them. ManiacJoe May 2022 #44
If women came into the NRA armed to defend their reproductive rights in Texas... ancianita May 2022 #47
Yep ck4829 Jun 2022 #50
Guns should be allowed in the US Senate and Congressional office buildings Seinan Sensei May 2022 #48
K&R ck4829 Jun 2022 #49

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
12. Don't they realize that if a sniper attempts to shoot someone, the random Mr. Goodgunner
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:27 AM
May 2022

will have been rendered gunless and will not be able to save the target from being shot?

onenote

(42,703 posts)
17. You better tell the NRA that. This is from the NRA Website:
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:37 AM
May 2022

FIREARMS POLICY FOR THE NRA ANNUAL MEETINGS & EXHIBITS

During the 151st NRA Annual Meetings & Exhibits, personal firearms may be carried in the George R. Brown Convention Center (GRBCC) in accordance with Texas law. When carrying your firearm, always adhere to all federal, state, and local laws.

https://www.nraam.org/attend/firearms-policy/

And this is from an article about the 2019 NRA Convention in Indiana: "the carrying of personal firearms will be allowed inside the Indiana Convention Center and Lucas Oil Stadium during the convention from April 26-28, as long as the owner is licensed to do so under Indiana law. ... When carrying your firearm, remember to follow all federal, state and local laws."

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2019/04/19/nra-indy-2019-and-gun-carry-laws-what-you-need-know/3495339002/

You might want to consider editing your post.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
18. This is a 2018 NPR article:
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:58 AM
May 2022

"Victims of the Parkland, Fla., high school shooting and their parents are criticizing the National Rifle Association after it announced that gun advocates won't be allowed to bring weapons to watch Vice President Pence deliver the NRA-Institute for Legislative Action's leadership forum keynote address in Dallas on Friday."

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
19. Probably also Secret Service, not the NRA
Wed May 25, 2022, 12:11 PM
May 2022

I admit, I might think it funny to go to the general meeting, where guns ARE allowed, and toss a pack of firecrackers....

onenote

(42,703 posts)
21. Right.As I said, the Secret Service dictates when guns are allowed.
Wed May 25, 2022, 12:16 PM
May 2022

And at recent NRA shows, guns have been allowed except at those times when President or VP is appearing.


So which part of my post was "untrue"? And which part of your post was true?

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
27. So the good members of NRA should boycott unless they're allowed to bring their toys
Wed May 25, 2022, 12:48 PM
May 2022

Those pansies are simply rolling over and sacrificing their rights, they shouldn't put up with it.

But hey, really, I think those motherfuckers will survive just fine without their penis enhancers for an afternoon.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
16. Then the NRA should tell Trump not to attend.........
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:37 AM
May 2022

After all that gun ban by the secret service is a violation of their rights and freedums. Wonder why the NRA would be good with a 100% BAN on weapons?

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
31. Is tfg going to mock the dead children?
Wed May 25, 2022, 04:48 PM
May 2022

"Ooo. Look at me: I'm a 4th grader."
MAGA crowd laughs.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
5. There needs to be a mass demonstrations at all NRA events, but protestors must prepare for fascist
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:12 AM
May 2022

police storm troopers in red states.

Mysterian

(4,587 posts)
6. How are they going to stay safe without guns???
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:12 AM
May 2022

OMG they say guns make it safer so these people must be DAREDEVILS!

Rebl2

(13,507 posts)
7. Well imagine
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:17 AM
May 2022

that. The NRA won’t allow guns in their own meeting. What do they fear? What about all the good guys with a gun, like they are always saying. Again, what do they fear?

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
8. Where's the lawsuit? Texas is an open carry state. They
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:22 AM
May 2022

can sue to force private businesses to let them in maskless, but can't sue the NRA to allow guns?

onenote

(42,703 posts)
14. it is the Secret Service that is banning the guns.
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:30 AM
May 2022

and Texas law doesn't prohibit businesses from banning guns.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
10. An armed society is a polite society
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:37 AM
May 2022

so gun free zone makes them sitting ducks for a mass shooting right? How will they defend themselves?

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
20. Good point
Wed May 25, 2022, 12:14 PM
May 2022

Not that it wouldn't be interesting to find out. Strictly theoretically speaking, of course.

Do you get the feeling that if it was rich Republicans victimized that the reaction might be a bit more than 'thoughts and prayers'?

Ford_Prefect

(7,897 posts)
11. The City of Houston is the host. They own the George R. Brown Convention Center
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:46 AM
May 2022

where the event is being held. Some smart cookie needs to sue them for aiding and enabling domestic terrorism.

Likewise the hotels which are housing Lapierre and the rest of the NRA leadership should be put on notice for doing business with terrorists.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
35. And how do you intend to establish that the NRA is guilty of domestic terrorism
Wed May 25, 2022, 06:52 PM
May 2022

based on the current statutes (not merely on emotion).

Ford_Prefect

(7,897 posts)
45. If your plan is to defend an organization which has worked since 1970 to achieve
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:17 PM
May 2022

the results we see in Houston and nearly everywhere else on very nearly a daily basis then I suggest you need to reconsider your point of view regarding it.

If you cannot see the link between millions spent through this outfit to blunt American law and the creation of a terrorist environment driven by unfettered weapons access and encouraged as a right of personal defense ( a right not iterated in the original amendment) by the same group, then you have missed some very significant evidence. At least 70 million dollars of Russian money in one election cycle alone.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
46. My plan is to see if there is actually a statutory basis for going after them
Thu May 26, 2022, 02:06 AM
May 2022

rather than just yelling into the void.

As much as the republicans have tried to destroy the fundamental nature of the US as a nation of laws, I'm not giving in and pretending that we can somehow defeat them in a court of law without being able to cite to an actual law that they've violated.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
42. Attendees can carry guns except when a Secret Service protectee is present
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:19 PM
May 2022

The rest of the time, attendees are free to carry their weapons.
https://www.nraam.org/attend/firearms-policy/

MiHale

(9,722 posts)
25. Arm all of them ...everyone must carry a gun...
Wed May 25, 2022, 12:39 PM
May 2022

Give trumpty an AK-47. Everyone will be safe, unharmed.

Give me a break it’s like cancer…you get cancer, they should give you more cancer, you and everyone you meet it’ll protect you.

Now I know that cancer is bad and it can kill you,but hey, it’ll work for guns, right.


MissMillie

(38,557 posts)
30. NRA leadership has been demonstrably inept and corrupt.. the members know they've been screwed
Wed May 25, 2022, 01:46 PM
May 2022

I'm not surprised that the leadership might be afraid of the members.

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
32. Hell, tRump is afraid of fruit and pies
Wed May 25, 2022, 05:38 PM
May 2022

Wayne La Pierre hid on a yacht after both Sandy Hook and Parkland shootings for fear for HIS safety. Fucking hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GenThePerservering

(1,823 posts)
33. "Second amendment leaders"?
Wed May 25, 2022, 05:55 PM
May 2022

They'll have most of the scum in one building - too bad they can't bring their guns with them. Herd them in there, lock the door and just wait - these snowflakes will be feeding on each other in a week.

Emile

(22,741 posts)
34. All the republicans who say the democrats are politicizing this
Wed May 25, 2022, 06:13 PM
May 2022

awful shooting will be there with their hands out to collect more blood drenched money.

OverBurn

(950 posts)
36. Well damn, I thought everyone packing at all times was the safest policy for everyone.
Wed May 25, 2022, 08:04 PM
May 2022

I'd love to see a group like that all packing guns, then some one light a couple of firecrackers. That would be some fun.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
38. This nonsense comes up every year for the annual NRA convention.
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:11 PM
May 2022

The gun prohibition is not from the NRA.
The gun prohibition is from the building owner and/or the owner's insurance company.
If the NRA owned the convention building, the NRA could allow all the guns they wanted to.

Of course, any Secret Service protection detail will toss on extra restrictions.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
41. Guns are not prohibited at the NRA convention except when a Secret Service protectee
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:16 PM
May 2022

is present.

The fact that the NRA generally allows guns to be carried at the convention is clearly stated by the NRA on its website.

See, e.g., https://www.nraam.org/attend/firearms-policy/

Seinan Sensei

(362 posts)
48. Guns should be allowed in the US Senate and Congressional office buildings
Thu May 26, 2022, 09:15 AM
May 2022

So goes "good guy with a gun" logic.
If guns make a building safe, then Lawmakers need to allow guns in their buildings
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