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pstokely

(10,525 posts)
Wed May 25, 2022, 08:54 PM May 2022

American Pie Singer Don McLean DROPS OUT Of NRA Convention Following Texas School Shooting

Last edited Wed May 25, 2022, 09:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Perez Hilton

Finally! Someone with a backbone to stand up to their own team when enough is enough!

Don McLean isn’t going to support gun culture after the tragic mass shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas.

The legendary singer, who was the voice behind the 1971 hit American Pie and plenty of other memorable tracks throughout his decades-long career, had been scheduled to performing this coming weekend at the National Rifle Association‘s convention in Houston, Texas.

However, on Wednesday, the 76-year-old star announced that he was pulling out of the convention, and pulling the plug on his performance.

Read more: https://perezhilton.com/uvalde-shooting-don-mclean-drops-out-nra-convention-houston-texas/



does he need the $ that bad? aren't there some state fairs available?
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American Pie Singer Don McLean DROPS OUT Of NRA Convention Following Texas School Shooting (Original Post) pstokely May 2022 OP
Sadly, he probably does AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #1
Ted Nugent?...oh, he uses bows Shellback Squid May 2022 #2
Don't forget the underage girls The Jungle 1 May 2022 #25
Great! Why was he playing there in the first place? NT texasfiddler May 2022 #3
That's what I came here to post! WTF, Don? dchill May 2022 #7
My thoughts exactly!! n/t Peregrine Took May 2022 #10
That was my Rebl2 May 2022 #18
that was my first question.. (in mind) msfiddlestix May 2022 #41
Hes always been a conservative regardless n/t Cheezoholic May 2022 #4
Not exactly... regnaD kciN May 2022 #9
He just sold the original American Pie manuscript for 1.2 million Cheezoholic May 2022 #20
Good for him - I guess. TomSlick May 2022 #5
Thought about this watching a basketball interview... Entertainers Unite Us! MartyTheGreek May 2022 #6
Is he a Repiblican or only did it for the money ? JI7 May 2022 #8
He never seemed to pal around with the real trend-setters, so I'm guessing he's a RePuke. TeamProg May 2022 #12
Does 38 Special need the money? Of course they do! Ooops, I didn't mean to denigrate TeamProg May 2022 #11
This will be the day that I die ... This'll be the day that I die. texasfiddler May 2022 #14
OMG, I didn't get that far in the melody.. n/t TeamProg May 2022 #17
I had to check & yep, 38 Special is on the county fair circuit...not even 1st tier though. NullTuples May 2022 #19
"and for twenty dollars, you can buy yourself one too. Any old pawn shop will do." Evolve Dammit May 2022 #34
Never say "Yes" to the NRA and you never have to live with that regret. Solly Mack May 2022 #13
I still love that song. denbot May 2022 #15
From October 2021::: TeamProg May 2022 #16
Yeah, he's really not showing his best side is he. progressoid May 2022 #21
Neither did I DENVERPOPS May 2022 #28
Agree mountain grammy May 2022 #29
I'm sorely disappointed to hear he was going to perform at the NRA convention... Trueblue Texan May 2022 #32
He got da Cathilic curse man, let im conefess lol n/t Cheezoholic May 2022 #22
I thought this part was quite telling. ShazzieB May 2022 #30
Take a deep breath and fuck yourself, Don. Paladin May 2022 #35
Does one "receive" those stars jeffreyi May 2022 #37
What a douchebag relayerbob May 2022 #40
About the money, he recently sold the rights to Am Pie, saying that he wanted to leave his children Earth-shine May 2022 #23
Why the hell was he associating with them in the first place? nt Susan Calvin May 2022 #24
he needs the $? pstokely May 2022 #26
NOW he doesn't want to be associated with them? Demobrat May 2022 #27
If a good entertainer was invited to such an event ... TomWilm May 2022 #31
Must have been bad news on the doorstep, couldn't take one more step Emile May 2022 #33
I thought McClean would fit right in... OneBlueDotS-Carolina May 2022 #36
Holy crap relayerbob May 2022 #39
Are we supposed to be impressed by this? relayerbob May 2022 #38
I know LeftInTX May 2022 #42
Is Mike Love and the fake beach boys available? pstokely May 2022 #43
The Times They Are a-Changin...and none too soon n/t AntiFascist May 2022 #44

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,004 posts)
1. Sadly, he probably does
Wed May 25, 2022, 08:59 PM
May 2022

Streaming doesn’t pay well, sales have dried up and he probably hasn’t been able to tour for a couple years…

msfiddlestix

(7,275 posts)
41. that was my first question.. (in mind)
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:12 PM
May 2022

second question: is he a dues paying NRA contributor/member-supporter and if so, is he ending his "membership" now?

if so, what the eff took so long?



(Appalachion Fiddler in California)

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
9. Not exactly...
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:32 PM
May 2022

If you look at his work on the Clearwater Foundation and the lyrics of his initial albums, he was quite leftist. Don't know much about his political stances since then, though.

Cheezoholic

(2,016 posts)
20. He just sold the original American Pie manuscript for 1.2 million
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:30 PM
May 2022

The fact he was even going to do a corporate gig for the NRA says everything that needs to be said. The Uvalde murders just happen to coincide with his big tour going on currently so it was definitely a business decision. He says today's music is worthless. Ive listened to interviews with him for decades, he's not what his marketing department presents. Not saying he's not a semi gifted song writer, but he ain't all that. his political leanings are very apparent if you look close enough, that's all.

Bye bye got my slice of American pie

TomSlick

(11,096 posts)
5. Good for him - I guess.
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:11 PM
May 2022

I am disappointed that he had agreed to perform at the convention. Nevertheless, I am pleased that there came a point where he could not do so.

MartyTheGreek

(565 posts)
6. Thought about this watching a basketball interview... Entertainers Unite Us!
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:15 PM
May 2022
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216728787

"Starting now, Every Celebrity Sports or Entertainer Should Answer their Interviews...
with the following: Firstly, as an American, I'm obligated to express my pain and disgust with what has happened in America with these mass murder shootings that have occurred over the years since the Assault Weapons Ban and background checks that Republicans allowed to expire back in 1993!" Now, on to your question?

TeamProg

(6,103 posts)
12. He never seemed to pal around with the real trend-setters, so I'm guessing he's a RePuke.
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:53 PM
May 2022

Heck, even one-hit-wonder Barry McGuire had a lot of friends in the L.A. scene!

Who would even sign up for an NRA gig.. crazy.

TeamProg

(6,103 posts)
11. Does 38 Special need the money? Of course they do! Ooops, I didn't mean to denigrate
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:49 PM
May 2022

southern rock band 38 Special or their fans.. FYI, denigrate means to 'put something down', to 'belittle'


I can hear it now, "Hold on loosely, but you'll have to take it from my cold, dead hands"





texasfiddler

(1,990 posts)
14. This will be the day that I die ... This'll be the day that I die.
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:55 PM
May 2022

How appropriate for a message to all children from the NRA. ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE HORRIBLE!! Their existence on this planet is not helpful.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
19. I had to check & yep, 38 Special is on the county fair circuit...not even 1st tier though.
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:26 PM
May 2022

They're not playing the big county fair here, but the much, much smaller jankier one. One of those that looks like the midway set up overnight in the library overflow parking lot...because they did.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
34. "and for twenty dollars, you can buy yourself one too. Any old pawn shop will do."
Thu May 26, 2022, 09:18 AM
May 2022

Mr. Saturday Night Special. "Might even shoot yourself."

TeamProg

(6,103 posts)
16. From October 2021:::
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:06 PM
May 2022

"""

“I got all my songs back and I got all my publishing, I own everything. And it’s a very very important song catalogue which I am the sole owner of. But I fought off a lot of people who were involved in getting percentages from me for a long time.”

McLean compares these people he referred to as “haters” and “destroyers” with his ex-wife and daughter; Patrisha Shnier and Jackie McLean.

Don’s marriage to Shnier broke down in 2016 after almost 30 years together. The pair split following an incident in 2016 which resulted in McLean being arrested amid claims of abuse. Don pleaded guilty to four of six charges brought against him, one of which was domestic violence assault — which was dismissed by plea bargain agreement.

Following the charges, the folk singer denied he ever assaulted his wife and stated that he pleaded guilty in order to avoid having the story hit the papers and to protect the family’s privacy.

Both his daughter and Shnier have publicly stated that McLean was emotionally and mentally abusive towards them over the years, claims he has denied.


“They are hateful and they are destroyers. And they are trying to destroy everything that I do and that’s the difference and that’s why I left to begin with,” says the 76-year old who remarks that it’s the same “syndrome” shared by those who tried to steal from him.

The musician also says that despite the claims of abuse he is not afraid of being cancelled.

“I’m not afraid of being cancelled. God’s gonna cancel me pretty soon anyway,” he says as he proposes that the rise in these accusations comes due to “the power saying destructive things about somebody can wield. And it didn’t have that before.”

“I think there’s an atmosphere of fear, similar to the atmosphere in the 1950’s when people’s political beliefs could get them cancelled. Immediately.”

“And that’s the environment we're in. It's just a different way of manifesting. So there’s this fear and therefore people really don’t let you know what they think about anything because they’re always afraid of being turned in.”

“I’m an old geezer and I have money and I’ll say what I want to say.”

The singer-songwriter continues to scoop up accolades and garner plaudits; recently he received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.


“Well that’s kind of like a general absolution in the church or something like that. It washes away a lot of sins,” jokes McLean. “You’re now part of the great HillBilly heaven.”

He described it as one of the “biggest and most exciting things” to have happened in his storied career. The veteran musician attributes his success to his instincts.

“I was never trying to be something that I wasn’t. I knew who I was and I knew what I wanted and it turned out okay. But things happened because of my instincts.”


"""""
Ohhhh-kaaaayyy


https://www.hotpress.com/music/don-mclean-i-think-theres-an-atmosphere-of-fear-similar-to-the-atmosphere-in-the-1950s-when-peoples-political-beliefs-could-get-them-cancelled-immediately-22874625




Trueblue Texan

(2,425 posts)
32. I'm sorely disappointed to hear he was going to perform at the NRA convention...
Thu May 26, 2022, 07:20 AM
May 2022

...and very glad to learn he has decided not to. I have not followed his career but his music touched me as a teen and American Pie, to this day, is my all time favorite rock song. Ya can't dance to it--or at least I can't--all ya can do is listen to it. Full of nostalgic images, it became popular when we were leaving childhood behind into a world that was scary and guaranteed to be difficult. A few years later, Reagan became president. The song was prescient. I still love it.

ShazzieB

(16,357 posts)
30. I thought this part was quite telling.
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:57 AM
May 2022
Both his daughter and [ex-wife] Shnier have publicly stated that McLean was emotionally and mentally abusive towards them over the years, claims he has denied.


Of course he has denied those claims. People who are emotionally and physically abuse almost never believe they are.

Earth-shine

(3,974 posts)
23. About the money, he recently sold the rights to Am Pie, saying that he wanted to leave his children
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:45 PM
May 2022

some money when he dies.

Demobrat

(8,968 posts)
27. NOW he doesn't want to be associated with them?
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:26 PM
May 2022

It took this? All the other massacres were acceptable, everything they stand for is okay, but this was beyond the pale?

I can’t even.

TomWilm

(1,832 posts)
31. If a good entertainer was invited to such an event ...
Thu May 26, 2022, 03:13 AM
May 2022

... he SHOULD come - but then only do bits against gun and violence.

Emile

(22,639 posts)
33. Must have been bad news on the doorstep, couldn't take one more step
Thu May 26, 2022, 08:35 AM
May 2022

and realized the music died in that classroom!

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,384 posts)
36. I thought McClean would fit right in...
Thu May 26, 2022, 09:56 AM
May 2022

'American Pie' Singer Don McLean Pleads Guilty to Domestic Violence Charges Against Estranged Wife


Songwriter Don McLean – perhaps best known for his classic 1971 song “American Pie” – accepted a plea deal in Maine on Thursday for several domestic violence misdemeanors against his estranged wife, PEOPLE learns.

McLean pleaded guilty to misdemeanor counts of domestic violence assault, domestic violence criminal threatening, criminal mischief, and criminal restraint stemming from a mid-January incident, McLean’s defense attorney tells PEOPLE.

McLean, 70, was arrested six months ago at his home in Camden for domestic violence against his wife, Patrisha, who told investigators the musician has had a violent temper for decades.

She said in a January statement that McLean “terrorized” her for hours the night of his arrest. The statement added, “For the first 10 years or so, his rage was unfathomably deep and very scary.”

https://people.com/crime/don-mclean-singer-pleads-guilty-to-domestic-abuse-counts/


relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
38. Are we supposed to be impressed by this?
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:45 AM
May 2022

He’s been a member until now? Really? 20- shootings this year alone, but this one is the straw that broke the camel’s back? Why not Buffalo? Why not 10 years ago? Why was he a member of that fascist organization in the first place? Sounds more like he’s trying to get his name in the media. Crawl back into obscurity, dude, you already sold out on your American pie.

LeftInTX

(25,220 posts)
42. I know
Thu May 26, 2022, 02:36 PM
May 2022

I never followed his politics...

Why should I?

American Pie was overplayed, overanalyzed, and I was sick of it.

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