Texas School Shooting Updates: Gunman Walked Through Unlocked Door 'Unobstructed'

[groundloop]

Source: NBC 5 DFW



Contradicting earlier reports, officials now say the 18-year-old gunman who killed 19 children and two teachers in an attack on Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, entered the school "unobstructed," through unlocked doors and did not encounter any school resource officers or other law enforcement until he was inside the building.

During a press conference Thursday, Victor Escalon, Texas DPS regional director, said that despite initial reports the gunman had been engaged by one or more armed school resource officers, he instead entered the school "unobstructed" through open doors.

The shooter was already firing at the school as he approached through the parking lot, Escalon said.

Read more: https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/live-updates-children-dead-in-mass-shooting-at-texas-elementary-school/2976868/

[msongs]

1. but I read the cowboy hat crowd couldnt get in the school cuz of a locked door nt

[2naSalit]

2. That was the first...

Tattletale sign that we were getting a heap of poo from authorities who screwed up and were looking to come up with the most palatable story to tell us.

[Warpy]

3. If the door had been locked, he'd have shot the lock. What's your point?

This is a red herring, in any case. All this armchair quarterbacking is ignoring the facts here. First, this country has been forced to knuckle under to a corrupt organization running largely on dirty Russian money to enact gun laws that would make absurdists blush.

Second, a barely 18 year old guy with a history of animal abuse, cutting, rages, and serious threats could buy not one but two military style weapons over the counter with no questions asked because of the crooked politicians and their absurd gun laws.

Third, you weren't there and I wasn't there and sometimes you have to trust investigators to investigate what happened in a normally peaceful rural town.

Fifth, this stuff is rare, really really rare. Putting kids into virtual prisons to keep them safe is not going to work as intended, ask any prisoner.

The only way to make this country safer is to get rid of the GUNS. We will always have people who are fucked up and hate the whole world. What we have to do is make it harder for them to take us with them when they exit it.

[ck4829]

6. "You weren't there". They weren't there either

[groundloop]

7. You bring up a good point..in this quest for every little detail we'll forget about the BIG detail..

That being that a GUN shot 38 people and killed at least 21 (plus the husband of one of the victims who died of a heart attack the next day).

[Lasher]

8. Sorry, Warpy, but this is a valid point.

We now know there was an unlocked door, a violation of protocol. And it's starting to look like this was known to others besides the killer. It matters.

[Warpy]

9. It wouldnot have made any differrence. Besides, parents go in to take their kids to dental and

doctor appointments all the time, checking in at the principal's office. Schools are not prisons and making them so is a red herring. It won't work against a twisted punk with a SEMIAUTO RIFLE.

[Lasher]

10. They check in at the principal's office, as you say.

The don't normally sneak them out through an unlocked back door.

It might have gone just as you say, with him shooting out the lock. Maybe not. But the fact remains, the unlocked door was a protocol violation and that matters. Somebody broke the rule, and we need to know who that was.

[LT Barclay]

27. Didn't Mythbusters do a bit on shooting out locks? Conclusion was it doesn't work like in the movie

[womanofthehills]

21. In my town in NM, the school doors are locked

You need to be buzzed in. Schools might need to install heavy duty steal doors.

[Evolve Dammit]

14. what happened to fourth?

[Warpy]

17. It has been canceled, too many fires already buring in NM

[PSPS]

18. "he'd have shot the lock" You mean like you've seen on TV and in the movies?

[Warpy]

20. No, I mean at close range with an AR 15

which has a lot more firepower than those little TV popguns do.

Anyway, I think I recall Mythbusters taking that one on and finding out locks were pretty easy pickings for projectiles, tougher for homemade explosives.

[Lasher]

4. And there was no School Resource Officer

“He walked in unobstructed initially,” Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) Regional Director Victor Escalon said. “So from the grandmother’s house, to the (ditch), to the school, into the school, he was not confronted by anybody.”

A DPS representative on Wednesday said a school resource officer had “engaged” with the suspect before he went in the school.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/26/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting-thursday/index.html

[LiberalFighter]

16. DPS kept changing their story.

[ck4829]

5. K&R

[dalton99a]

11. So Texas officials made up shit.

[The Wielding Truth]

12. Well, it doesn't sound logical that the killer would have known which door was unlocked. Weird.

[nowforever]

13. Uvalde has a SWAT team consisting of 9 trained officers

They are fully equipped and have a strategy for schools with training they brag about. 40% of town's budget is allotted to the police department. Why did they just stand around???

[Evolve Dammit]

15. I really want to know that as well

[Bayard]

22. Per MSNBC tonight,

The SWAT team is made up of volunteer part-timers. Doesn't make a lot of sense for emergency situations.

[ManiacJoe]

23. Part time SWAT teams are very common.

Full-time SWAT teams are expensive and do not get used much.

It is very common for small cities to have regular officers who make up the SWAT team on a part time basis, on call as needed, keep your issued equipment in the patrol car.

It is also very common for neighboring towns each to contribute a few officers to a "group" SWAT team that assembles when needed.

Large cities can afford to have a full time SWAT team. However, to justify the costs, the SWAT teams are frequently used for purposes that many people find questionable.

[Bayard]

25. Good to know

[bucolic_frolic]

24. Almost as if they were awaiting orders from someone not on the scene

and now are trying to cover it up with press conferences of obfuscation and confusion

[PSPS]

19. This guy was outside the school shooting for a long time after crashing a car. But no cops?

[Voltaire2]

26. The problem is not unlocked doors

or any other security issue.

The problem is guns.