Parole recommended for Manson family member Patricia Krenwinkel
Source: CNN
A parole board in California recommended that Patricia Krenwinkel, a former Charles Manson follower and convicted murderer in the notorious 1969 killing spree, should be released, officials said Thursday.
The decision will head to the Board of Parole Hearings Legal Division for review, a spokesperson for the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation said.
Krenwinkel, 74, was convicted of seven counts of first-degree murder in the August 1969 Manson family attacks that left seven people dead. Among the victims was pregnant actress Sharon Tate, who was married to director Roman Polanski, Folger Coffee heiress Abigail Folger and celebrity hairstylist Jay Sebring.
She had been denied parole 14 times since her conviction. The review process by the legal division could take up to 120 days. After that, the proposed parole decision goes to the governor's desk, where he has the authority to either reverse the decision or allow it to stand, according to the CDCR spokesperson.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/27/us/manson-family-patricia-krenwinkel-parole/index.html
She deserves to die in prison like all domestic terrorists who commit murder.
Lucky Luciano
(11,863 posts)samsingh
(18,426 posts)Botany
(77,324 posts)She needs to die in prison.
lastlib
(28,277 posts)She has forfeited her right to be in free society.
AllaN01Bear
(29,498 posts)Warpy
(114,616 posts)Life on the outside is often terrifying for lifers. It might be kinder to keep her inside, where things are more predictable.
Still the 70 something old woman she is today is a far cry from the brainwashed, star stuck,drug addled, crackpot religion obsessed 20 something who participated in those horrible atrocities. She's a threat to no one these days.
Inside or in a halfway house, she's not going to be completely free. I would imagine it's a financial decision at this point, prison being a lot more expensive than a halfway house.
And for the harshly punitive crowd, she hasn't just been deprived of bar hopping and shopping malls (neither of which she could tolerate now), she's been deprived of all the milestones of life the people she grew up with took for granted: falling in love, getting married, having kids, having grandkids, having a place in the world. That is the life sentence she has already served. So punitive people shouldn't get their noses too far out of joint if she goes to a halfway house. Her life is already gone.
ripcord
(5,553 posts)Warpy
(114,616 posts)However, I don't want to see Charles Manson outside a prison. He's an incredibly manipulative sociopath and still dangerous.
Krenwinkel, on the other hand, was a follower. She'd have made a fine Evangelical but she found Manson first. Even if she finds another lunatic to barnacle herself onto, she's not a threat.
The board agrees with me, apparently, she's been granted parole.
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)Response to Warpy (Reply #12)
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MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)unless you count his grave as outside a prison.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson
Warpy
(114,616 posts)I'll still be a little afraid he'll dig his way out. I hope he was buried face down.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)Danmel
(5,778 posts)Krenwinkle should die in prison
bedazzled
(1,885 posts)I know how he did physically ... but I don't know how this was allowed to happen
Warpy
(114,616 posts)He also earned a baccalaureate degree. He's probably a godly model prisoner.
His parole was denied in 2021, so the next hearing will be in 2026. He'll be 82 if he's still alive, probably going from prison to nursing home. He won't be welcomed home to children and grandchildren, the wife divorced him and I think she remarried. Let's hope her taste improved.
Backseat Driver
(4,671 posts)I hope Gov Newsome overturns the parole board's recommendation. Until every last homeless child runaway, individual, couple, family is safely in treatment with appropriate housing, food, medical care, in that state, she should stay in jail not get assistance in a half-way house, retirement community, or assisted living. I've no sympathy that she's missed all those landmarks of living free in society. Hey, look where that got her when stuff, including taxes, was even less expensive. Further, since when can't prisoners marry and have conjugal visits? No penpals, no young-at-heart or aging, deplorable suitors wanted to exploit her story with kindness or a book advance? She does have a place in the world: prison for life and, at this point, she needs to stay where she's least likely to irresponsibly fall to the violent world it's become because she's one of the contributors to an equally disrespectful violent cult of hate that mows down children and murders the old grandmothers every day of the year. At some point in her actions of rebellion against society within that Mason cult of crime, murder, and mayhem, she had lots of opportunities to apologize and ask for help with repentance, and failed to make the right one. I hope she's now terrified of those freedoms outside her bars. Ask a few GQP to pay a few more bucks to keep her in the style to which she's now accustomed. But you're likely correct insofar as she's long past menopause and female usefulness since she can't be forced to give birth!
Martin68
(27,749 posts)but he was convicted of brainwashing the perpetrators. Krenwinkel was teenage messed up runaway who was brainwashed by Manson using LSD and other drugs. Her crime was extremely heinous, but she is 74, and no longer a danger to society. She's been in prison for more than 50 years. At the very least it would save the taxpayers money to release her. Clearly the posters above will disagree, but that's my ten cents.
MerryHolidays
(7,715 posts)Manson went into the LaBiancas' house first and tied them up, bringing the others in. He was most definitely there.
Similarly, he was in Gary Hinman's house and sliced his ear, leaving him to eventually die with 3-4 other family members.
Take a look at some of the Family who are still alive: they are huge fans of Manson and help perpetuate his evil, even today. He is a cult hero to a number of people.
What Patricia Krenwinkle did was too awful. She was spared the death penalty. Spending the rest of her life in prison is what she deserves.
Martin68
(27,749 posts)agreed with Bugliosi that Manson was guilty o f first degree murder because he had brainwashed his cult members. If that is true, they had less than complete control over their actions at the time.
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)Martin68
(27,749 posts)paid quite well.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)It was awful. She needs to stay where she is.
tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)eom
Joinfortmill
(21,169 posts)rollin74
(2,301 posts)this recommendation will be ignored
they wont even release Van Houten
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)Lunabell
(7,309 posts)This is sick. What she did was depraved. There's no amount of redemption for that.
BigDemVoter
(4,700 posts)Sharon Tate's family has loudly objected to any of those killers being paroled, and this included Susan Atkins who had a brain tumor. She wasn't paroled and had to die in prison as she deserved.
For anyone too young to remember or to have witnessed this, these people bragged about killing five people followed by a married couple the next night. And it wasn't just bragging one time. . . They showed NO remorse during the entire trial which lasted months. They laughed about it and made jokes.
It was only after spending decades in prison that their tone changed. I think Patricia Krenwinkel deserves to die in prison.
ripcord
(5,553 posts)They wanted to start a race war.
BigDemVoter
(4,700 posts)the immediate harm they did.
They were too willing to follow Charles Manson. . . . Jesus, what a creepy individual.
I'm a nurse in San Francisco. . . . I know someone who works at San Quentin as a nurse-- where Manson was housed for a while. She said she actually met him a couple of times. Yuck. I wouldn't even want to look at him, much less touch him. At least that crazy/vile thing is dead.
Skittles
(171,718 posts)and she was not present at both murder scenes
still, both these gals remain incarcerated not for what they did, but for who they did it to
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)Skittles
(171,718 posts)a few times, as requested by Tex Watson so she would be more "involved". Ms. Labianca was stabbed a total of 41 times. Ms.Van Houten was not involved in the Tate murders. Of course, if she had notified the authorities when that happened, the Labiancas would not have been murdered. Heck, if she had any courage at all she would have called the cops when the very idea of Helter Skelter came up. Still, she would have been released long ago were it not for the notoriety of her crime.
paleotn
(22,218 posts)Midwestern Democrat
(1,029 posts)California prior to 1972 were automatically commuted to life due to the California Supreme Court's People v. Anderson decision in 1972 (the US Supreme Court wound up invalidating all pending death sentences nationwide in Furman v. Georgia the same year).
Newsome isn't going to commit political suicide - he will justly deny this parole recommendation the moment it hits his desk.
C Moon
(13,643 posts)Oscarthegreat
(121 posts)I live in California and there is a much greater chance of Governor Newsom running as Trump's running mate in 2024 that him approving the parole recommendation. Zero chance she gets out. She will die in prison, as she should.
demigoddess
(6,675 posts)but no release from prison.
stollen
(1,143 posts)I was looking for her at the Women's Prison at Frontera. I know she was editor of the prison paper at that time, a model prisoner. It was felt then, years ago, that she wouldn't be a threat, but the Parole Board always disagreed.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(21,204 posts)but I also wonder what kind of life she would have after being in prison for 50 years. does she have family or friends who can take her in?
LudwigPastorius
(14,728 posts)giving her the opportunity to redeem herself instead of executing her.
She can continue that journey in prison.
Retired Engineer Bob
(759 posts)GoldandSilver
(186 posts)How do you redeem yourself from deliberately terrorizing and murdering a human being, much less 7 human beings. Their actions were beyond grotesque.
GoldandSilver
(186 posts)She was justly sentenced to life in prison and she should serve out that sentence.