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FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
Tue May 31, 2022, 07:45 PM May 2022

U.S. asks court to reverse order lifting airplane mask mandate

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON, May 31 (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department on Tuesday asked a federal appeals court to overturn a U.S. District Court judge's April order that declared the government mandate requiring masks on airplanes, buses and in transit hubs unlawful. Hours after the federal judge in Florida declared the mandate unlawful, the Biden administration said it would no longer enforce it.

The Justice Department told the appeals court that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) order issued in January 2021 was "within" the agency's legal authority. The CDC did not immediately respond to a request for comment Tuesday on whether it would reinstate the requirement if the ruling was overturned.

Days before U.S. District Judge Kathryn Kimball's April 18 order, the CDC had extended mask requirements through May 3. The CDC said earlier this month it still recommends travelers continue to wear masks in airplanes, trains and buses.

The Justice Department's appeal came just hours before a appeals court filing deadline.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-asks-court-reverse-order-lifting-airplane-mask-mandate-2022-05-31/

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U.S. asks court to reverse order lifting airplane mask mandate (Original Post) FBaggins May 2022 OP
just one Trump hack was able to significantly affect public health Skittles May 2022 #1
trump and all GOP judges are really just politicians in robes PSPS May 2022 #2
they are what is called "activist judges" Skittles May 2022 #4
exactly. how could this be? peacebuzzard May 2022 #3
it absolutely disgusts me that people don't care enough to mask on planes Skittles May 2022 #6
God help us should we ever really need to sacrifice for our society. Pobeka May 2022 #9
oh don't even get me started Skittles May 2022 #13
It's shameful, isn't it? Just absolutely, utterly shameful. Pobeka May 2022 #16
there's a lot I am glad my mum was not around to see Skittles Jun 2022 #20
the coughing, hacking, sneezing, it all goes on in planes peacebuzzard May 2022 #10
I was just on a flight yesterday and the plane held 186 people gopiscrap Jun 2022 #26
Several Friends Got COVID on Planes! McKim May 2022 #17
that's how I got COVID gopiscrap Jun 2022 #27
Nothing stopping people from voluntarily wearing masks (I do) brooklynite May 2022 #12
I'm in day five of being infected with Covid. Fortunately I'm vaxed and boosted so I'll survive. bluesbassman May 2022 #18
for me, today is day 4 of positive Covid, caught on plane/airport, who knows. peacebuzzard Jun 2022 #30
The Venn diagram of those who think we shouldn't have these mandates and the people who think 12 dsc May 2022 #19
You must not get out much. Ace Rothstein Jun 2022 #34
because the non maskers are inherently selfish, looking through a lens of selfishness Blues Heron Jun 2022 #25
Covid infection rate is four times what it was at this time last year, and we are open for business? Evolve Dammit May 2022 #5
The appeal doesn't appear to be taking that into account FBaggins May 2022 #7
It's just not a priority anymore Evolve Dammit May 2022 #8
Yup. there is no going back now. peacebuzzard May 2022 #11
those of us who care still mask Skittles May 2022 #14
I wear both mask and dirt bike glasses. I get double takes. peacebuzzard May 2022 #15
yup Skittles Jun 2022 #21
Oh yeah this Trump endorsed federalist society judge thinks that bleach will stop the spread turbinetree Jun 2022 #22
or Ivermectin (god forbid) peacebuzzard Jun 2022 #28
I won't be on a plane, train or bus for the rest of this year... regardless of the rules, DemocraticPatriot Jun 2022 #23
When will we cut Covid testing for US citizens returning to US? JCMach1 Jun 2022 #24
negative covid test is in place for most US citizens returning, peacebuzzard Jun 2022 #29
You have to present the actual results, or airlines will not let you board JCMach1 Jun 2022 #31
Leaving the US to many countries only require the covid vaccine card. peacebuzzard Jun 2022 #32
Correct, it's returning to the US that becomes a pain in the a$$ JCMach1 Jun 2022 #33
I only show the negative test to the airline agent in the foreign country. peacebuzzard Jun 2022 #35
Same for the UK Retrograde Jun 2022 #36

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
1. just one Trump hack was able to significantly affect public health
Tue May 31, 2022, 07:47 PM
May 2022

there's something very wrong in America

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
4. they are what is called "activist judges"
Tue May 31, 2022, 08:01 PM
May 2022

you know, the same kind repukes are always whining about

peacebuzzard

(5,183 posts)
3. exactly. how could this be?
Tue May 31, 2022, 07:59 PM
May 2022

after 1.5 yrs of sheltering in, 4 covid vaccines, wearing a mask in public, I came down with covid.
I caught it on a plane.
I was masked; one of the few.
After this recovery I intend to only wear the KN95, it's smothering, especially on a long flight, but better than how I feel today. Still testing positive with all symptoms. It is not horrible. But this should not be happening at all.
Take care out there. mask up.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
6. it absolutely disgusts me that people don't care enough to mask on planes
Tue May 31, 2022, 08:02 PM
May 2022

order or no order

fucking selfish assholes everywhere

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
9. God help us should we ever really need to sacrifice for our society.
Tue May 31, 2022, 08:27 PM
May 2022

So many absoluting mindless whiners.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
13. oh don't even get me started
Tue May 31, 2022, 10:26 PM
May 2022

too late

my mum was a child during WWII in England - knowing what she and her family endured, I have been totally appalled and sickened by the whining about wearing a mask or social distancing.....UGH

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
16. It's shameful, isn't it? Just absolutely, utterly shameful.
Tue May 31, 2022, 11:11 PM
May 2022

I put a lot of this on the success of Putin's information war he's been waging on our social media sites for many years now to incite division in our society. He wasn't even secretive about either his strategy or ultimate goal.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
20. there's a lot I am glad my mum was not around to see
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 12:39 AM
Jun 2022

Meghan and Harry whining on TV during a pandemic was another, ugh

peacebuzzard

(5,183 posts)
10. the coughing, hacking, sneezing, it all goes on in planes
Tue May 31, 2022, 09:48 PM
May 2022

those little air vents can't suck it up that fast, those human spit particles spew out in a wide fan.
And the idiots just want to show off make-up and talk, laugh, scream, you name it; all while the inner encapsulated air vents churn the vain attempt at filtering.

gopiscrap

(23,765 posts)
26. I was just on a flight yesterday and the plane held 186 people
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 10:44 AM
Jun 2022

and was packed full only about 15 others and myself wore a mask

McKim

(2,412 posts)
17. Several Friends Got COVID on Planes!
Tue May 31, 2022, 11:30 PM
May 2022

Several of our friends and neighbors got COVID from flying with maskless idiots!

brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
12. Nothing stopping people from voluntarily wearing masks (I do)
Tue May 31, 2022, 09:57 PM
May 2022

Reality is: most travelers (even Democrats) don't feel the need to wear masks. If the Administration wants to change the policy, they need to make a compelling argument to the public, not a legalistic argument to a Judge.

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
18. I'm in day five of being infected with Covid. Fortunately I'm vaxed and boosted so I'll survive.
Tue May 31, 2022, 11:31 PM
May 2022

Not that it hasn’t been miserable; it has. I caught it I’m certain from an unmasked fellow sitting across the aisle from me coughing for the entire 2 and a half hour flight I was on last week. I was masked of course, but the few times I lowered it to take a drink of water was all it took. This guy knew he was sick, you can’t cough like that and not know.

So my question to you sir, is just how does the Biden Administration present a “compelling argument” to an American public that is full of inconsiderate louts like this guy? Do they even talk about such things in the circles you move in?

peacebuzzard

(5,183 posts)
30. for me, today is day 4 of positive Covid, caught on plane/airport, who knows.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 11:20 AM
Jun 2022

I will survive too, but even vaxed and boosted, for me, its like a really bad congestive cold. Day 4 I am sheltered in, dry coughing, feverish, fatigued.
You have to eat/drink sometime on a long flight travel day & there are plenty of unmasked covid suspects lurking on planes/airports. The rule of thumb is the question: have you spent 15 minutes within 6 feet of someone while unmasked within 48 hours of the onset of symptoms? I think that is misleading since the concentration of the sardine cans of airport/planes needs to be further evaluated. Before this surge of the crowds packing into the air travel industry the air vent tests were performed on empty planes and airports.
But it will be a cold day in hell for this crowd to want to re-evaluate the environmental safety of the industry.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
19. The Venn diagram of those who think we shouldn't have these mandates and the people who think 12
Tue May 31, 2022, 11:39 PM
May 2022

year olds who have been raped by their fathers should have to bear the resulting children is a circle. The fact is it is idiotic we don't require masks on planes pure and simple but since cis white males get inconvenienced by the masks we can't have that. If it were gays, blacks or females who didn't want to wear masks these mandates would have never been lifted.

Blues Heron

(5,944 posts)
25. because the non maskers are inherently selfish, looking through a lens of selfishness
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 07:11 AM
Jun 2022

these are not people thinking about the health and safety of others. Thats why we need the mandate.

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
7. The appeal doesn't appear to be taking that into account
Tue May 31, 2022, 08:09 PM
May 2022

They waited until the last possible moment to file the appeal and do no appear to be asking for any rapid consideration of reversing the current temporary stay.

IOW - win or lose the current lack of masking requirements is likely to stay in place for months. Perhaps many months.

peacebuzzard

(5,183 posts)
15. I wear both mask and dirt bike glasses. I get double takes.
Tue May 31, 2022, 10:40 PM
May 2022

some are amused, stare, compliment my glasses, the majority are oblivious. The masked passengers on domestic flights are a minority at the moment. maybe 10% of domestic flights in the southeast...
PS. commercial flying and airports are covid cess pools.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
22. Oh yeah this Trump endorsed federalist society judge thinks that bleach will stop the spread
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:00 AM
Jun 2022

in my inner family all have shots and boosted and three members have covid.....and I truly believe that when she ordered the mask mandate to be halted they got it.....right along with the whack doodle governors saying it was a hoax .... because after all they all said horse pills would kill the virus....

DemocraticPatriot

(4,413 posts)
23. I won't be on a plane, train or bus for the rest of this year... regardless of the rules,
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:11 AM
Jun 2022

and I don't know when I ever will be, again...

JCMach1

(27,574 posts)
24. When will we cut Covid testing for US citizens returning to US?
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:33 AM
Jun 2022

Annoying AF because RW constantly whines about 'Vaccine Passports'...

Relevant middle finger ad I am flying back from Kenya next week ...

peacebuzzard

(5,183 posts)
29. negative covid test is in place for most US citizens returning,
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 11:01 AM
Jun 2022

from many countries. its a form you have to sign required by the US State Dept and verified by the ticket agent of the returning carrier. The checks are random for the test at U.S. border entry.

peacebuzzard

(5,183 posts)
32. Leaving the US to many countries only require the covid vaccine card.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:19 PM
Jun 2022

many countries have lifted the negative covid test, but want to see proof of vaccine.
It gets complicated if a person has not been vaccinated.

JCMach1

(27,574 posts)
33. Correct, it's returning to the US that becomes a pain in the a$$
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 01:07 AM
Jun 2022

If I have proof of vaccination and am not sick, I shouldn't have to test to enter my own country.

peacebuzzard

(5,183 posts)
35. I only show the negative test to the airline agent in the foreign country.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:33 AM
Jun 2022

once at the US port of entry the checks are "random".
Its a compliance requirement for the airlines / CDC/ Health Dept.

Retrograde

(10,158 posts)
36. Same for the UK
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 07:39 PM
Jun 2022

I had to take a monitored test and submit the results- and proof of vaccination - before I could travel last month Wore a mask the whole time I was in the airport and on the plane- and tested positive 2 days after I got home

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