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NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:10 PM Jun 2022

New York Tightens Its Strict Gun Laws in Democratic Show of Force

Source: NY Times

The State Legislature passed a broad package of gun bills that will raise the minimum age to buy a semiautomatic rifle to 21, ban most civilians from purchasing bullet-resistant body vests and revise the state’s so-called red flag laws, making New York the first state to approve legislation following shootings in Buffalo and Texas that left a total of 31 dead.

Lawmakers approved bills to broaden abortion protections and bolster voting rights, using the final hours of the 2022 legislative session to deliver the most robust response yet by a state in the face of federal gridlock.

Faced with a looming Supreme Court decision that could strike down Roe v. Wade, Democratic legislative leaders were fully behind a bill package aimed at protecting abortion service providers from legal or professional backlash, among other things.

Legislators also approved new measures to combat voter suppression under the John R. Lewis Voting Rights Act of New York, invoking the former congressman and civil rights leader in a nod to the voting rights bill that failed to pass in Congress.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/02/nyregion/guns-abortion-laws-ny.html

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New York Tightens Its Strict Gun Laws in Democratic Show of Force (Original Post) NYC Liberal Jun 2022 OP
This will get the Trumpaholics riled up! SergeStorms Jun 2022 #1
The OPPOSITE Of A Shithole State nt SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #2
If it must be raised, I'd make it 25 not 21. LiberatedUSA Jun 2022 #3
I agree, and for the same reason. soldierant Jun 2022 #5
Thank you NY larwdem Jun 2022 #4
Isn't NY the case the SCOTUS is about to rule on regarding concealed carry? NullTuples Jun 2022 #6
Yes DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2022 #7
It is, but none of these proposals conflict with that n/t markpkessinger Jun 2022 #10
Why vests? SomewhereInTheMiddle Jun 2022 #8
They aren't banning it completely. It's allowed for people NYC Liberal Jun 2022 #9
What about bulletproof backpacks for kids? Apparently they're selling well. NullTuples Jun 2022 #11
Until we have comprehensive federal laws Woodwizard Jun 2022 #12

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
1. This will get the Trumpaholics riled up!
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:30 PM
Jun 2022

Who cares? Maybe they'll get so pissed off they'll all move out of the state. What a paradise that would be!

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
3. If it must be raised, I'd make it 25 not 21.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:37 PM
Jun 2022

21 is just getting to buy alcohol. 25 is a fully developed mind; or at least is supposed to be.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,919 posts)
7. Yes
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 05:29 AM
Jun 2022

And they are likely to lose that case. The question now seems to be how broad will the ruling be. A narrow one is preferable. A broader one that establishes strict scrutiny or text, history, and tradition, as the review standard for gun laws would be bad. Strict scrutiny or THT would open up a lot of gun laws, including this one, to be challenged and overturned. Rumor has been that Thomas will be writing the opinion so prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

8. Why vests?
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 08:40 AM
Jun 2022

I am curious about the ban on bullet-resistant body vests.

I am sure some of the shooters wear them, but they can also be honestly used for self-defense (with no danger to anyone else). I recall EMTs I used to know talking about wearing ballistic protection for calls to violence-prone areas or to protect from non-lucid injured with hidden or makeshift weapons.

Who are they protecting by outlawing armor?

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
9. They aren't banning it completely. It's allowed for people
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 01:26 PM
Jun 2022

working in “eligible professions”, which can be designated by the NY Department of State. Presumably EMTs working in dangerous areas would be allowed.

A. 10497 (Jacobson)/S.9407-B (Kavanagh):

Makes unlawful the purchase and sale of body vests for anyone who is not engaged in an eligible profession. Eligible professions include law enforcement officers and other professions designated by the Department of State in consultation with other agencies. Also requires that any sale of a body vest be done in person


https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-majority-leader-stewart-cousins-and-speaker-heastie-announce-introduction

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
11. What about bulletproof backpacks for kids? Apparently they're selling well.
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 11:37 PM
Jun 2022

Parents are terrified & although they aren't really likely to help, they are one of the solutions Republicans are offering.

Woodwizard

(841 posts)
12. Until we have comprehensive federal laws
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 09:22 AM
Jun 2022

this is a bandaid, ideally all semi auto weapons should be banned it is hard to do a mass shooting with a bolt or lever action firearm.

Same goes for detachable magazines hard to continue shooting if you have to reload a internal magazine.

It is just baffling to me that I spent at least 2 weeks training in the army with a M16 before I ever live fired, but I can go to a gun shop and pick up a AR15 with no proof of training or knowledge of firearm safety and I do live in NY.

On base if we had a personal firearm it had to be secured in the arms room, cant have in your living space the military has a good handle on gun control.

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