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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,726 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:40 AM Jun 2022

John Fetterman reveals undisclosed heart condition

Source: ABC News

John Fetterman, Pennsylvania’s Democratic Senate nominee, released on Friday afternoon a clean bill of health in order to soon hit the campaign trail and ultimately perform in the U.S. Senate–dependent on how serious he takes his recovery from a recent stroke due to an previously unreported heart condition.

In a letter, his cardiologist, Dr. Ramesh Chandra, said that if the current lieutenant governor takes his medications and improves his diet and exercise, he’d be a fit elected official despite suffering a stroke just four days before his 67-county win in Pennsylvania’s primary elections– a result of neglecting two heart condition diagnoses from 2017.

Pennsylvania voters have quietly questioned their nominee’s fitness in the weeks after the health scare. Fetterman hasn’t been back on the campaign trail since the lead up to the election.

Fetterman responded to the doctors’ letter in a statement, writing he should have “taken his health more seriously,” while also indicating that the stroke he suffered on May 13 was “completely preventable,” based on past assertions of his heart health.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/john-fetterman-reveals-undisclosed-heart-condition/ar-AAY2Ltc?li=BBnbfcQ

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John Fetterman reveals undisclosed heart condition (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 OP
I'll be honest angrychair Jun 2022 #1
This will hurt. nt BootinUp Jun 2022 #2
If he were to drop out, what happens? Polybius Jun 2022 #3
No, TexasTowelie Jun 2022 #4
No he isn't dropping out...and will be fine. Nice try though. Connor couldn't win a primary, he Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #36
No nice try Polybius Jun 2022 #51
My mistake. I don't want Lamb anywhere near the Senate either. I have been convinced for Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #58
It's all good Polybius Jun 2022 #64
Correct...I would say Tim Ryan is a moderate and I love the guy. Although like Biden I think he Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #68
Bad journalism pecosbob Jun 2022 #5
Dick Cheney.... FarPoint Jun 2022 #6
However, GOPers will most certainly exploit this. groundloop Jun 2022 #7
On the other hand, Oz has exploitable qualities also. Maggiemayhem Jun 2022 #19
and if they do, push back with President Eisenhower's medical history yellowdogintexas Jun 2022 #75
Exactly.....Written for Trump candidate Oz Maggiemayhem Jun 2022 #17
I'm sure Oz will be diagnosing Fetterman throughout the campaign. Probatim Jun 2022 #26
Before too much time goes by he needs to do a interview from his home FloridaBlues Jun 2022 #8
What Dem voters are "questioning" Fetterman's health? Deminpenn Jun 2022 #9
Where does it say that in the article? N/T lapucelle Jun 2022 #11
Here Deminpenn Jun 2022 #22
It says that "Pennsylvania voters" are questioning the candidate's "fitness" after a health scare. lapucelle Jun 2022 #34
Sometimes little words make a difference DFW Jun 2022 #79
I call bullshit on that...some still sad for Lamb. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #80
He is the nominee of Pennsylvania voters because he is the nominee for their Senate seat. N/T lapucelle Jun 2022 #82
Big +1 Doc Sportello Jun 2022 #23
That's because there are some who Deminpenn Jun 2022 #25
You know your state Doc Sportello Jun 2022 #27
Pennsylvania is a swing state, and the fact they elected Santorum and Toomy attest that it also can JohnSJ Jun 2022 #42
True...however...consider who they didn't elect...the last one being Katie McGinty. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #53
Whoever her campaign manager was, gave her really bad advice Deminpenn Jun 2022 #65
I know...I really think we can win this one...just sorry I can't vote for Fetterman as I live just Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #67
Here's the part most outside analysts don't understand, Deminpenn Jun 2022 #63
As an outsider from California, I appreciate that analysis JohnSJ Jun 2022 #66
Every state has its nuances Deminpenn Jun 2022 #71
They sure do. JohnSJ Jun 2022 #74
Casey's Dad was a very popular governor in PA...and carpetbagger Oz is going to have a Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #81
Yes GOPers will exploit this, that's just their nature groundloop Jun 2022 #40
Yes it can be. When one echos GOP talking points on social media, it can depress the vote. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #43
I don't think the health issues will fly or be effective. I think they will use his support of JohnSJ Jun 2022 #45
The phrasing makes it sound like they will be successful Doc Sportello Jun 2022 #48
Lamb supporters of course...still have a hurt that their guy lost miserably...in fact today on Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #37
The progressive diet bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #10
No, Fetterman will get his message out. Lamb and Kenyetta tried to make it about the gun Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #46
He gets points for transparency but opens up questions of poor judgement dutch777 Jun 2022 #12
Why would his energy lag? gab13by13 Jun 2022 #14
+1. Use it or lose it dalton99a Jun 2022 #16
I thought we supported Democratic candidates here...seriously? Well you know what they say Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #38
Well, I think it is poor judgement not to support the Democratic candidate in every race. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #47
Totally agree and glad Oz is the opponent for Fetterman dutch777 Jun 2022 #87
I have to believe that if Fetterman did not feel up to the task he would step aside. Since it JohnSJ Jun 2022 #49
I agree. I think he is a straight up guy and will do what is right for the voters. Has my vote. dutch777 Jun 2022 #86
I am a Pennsylvania voter. gab13by13 Jun 2022 #13
Can I just say that the anti-Fetterman posts are a fucking disgrace and should not be posted on Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #39
Another clinical view... FarPoint Jun 2022 #15
A-Fib is what tires you out, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #18
Absolutely he is feeling new and improved now. FarPoint Jun 2022 #21
"I almost died...." brooklynite Jun 2022 #20
I can see why you are concerned Deminpenn Jun 2022 #24
One of the earliest lessons I learned was: accept your losses and move on. brooklynite Jun 2022 #30
What is this their third or fourth post where you announce that Fetterman is not unlikrly to Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #52
I've said several times which I think are more competitive... brooklynite Jun 2022 #54
I still think NC is way more of a longshot than PA. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #78
Your post-primary posts don't support your claim Deminpenn Jun 2022 #72
No.. if something happens to a Candidate Cha Jun 2022 #69
It is not a concern for me and for others who supported him...he is fine and has been Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #77
Yes, I wanted Conor Lamb but since Cha Jun 2022 #85
His doctor said he is fine to run and serve Doc Sportello Jun 2022 #28
Yeah, I almost died too, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #29
Fetterman is the candidate BeyondGeography Jun 2022 #31
Which candidate should I not support if we do? brooklynite Jun 2022 #32
I would say Beasley is the weakest among that group as we have never won NC... Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #55
You're forgetting Kay Hagan... brooklynite Jun 2022 #57
Kay Hagan was back in 08. As for Cheri Beasley, she was just added to Schumer's Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #60
No, I do not. I think it is a matter of some folks didn't get the candidate they wanted. And Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #41
We'll, I HAVE lived in Pennsylvania... brooklynite Jun 2022 #44
I absolutely think you are telling the truth...but I bet you lived in PA years ago right? Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #56
In that case I don't support dozens of candidates fully. brooklynite Jun 2022 #59
Fetterman is a great fund raiser...he had so much more money than other candidates...so Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #61
This is my final word on the matter as it is your money to do with as you choose. I think you Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #62
You lived in Philadelphia which is not like Deminpenn Jun 2022 #73
Concerned that he learned his lesson and changed his behavior? Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2022 #50
He's being transparent. I like that. andricv Jun 2022 #33
John Fetterman will be alright....and if anyone wants to question his fitness..... turbinetree Jun 2022 #35
I get it. Nobody likes going to the doctor. LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #70
Do you? First of all there was no lack of candor and secondly...let me assure you Fetterman will Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #76
I wasn't aware that he informed the public that he had been diagnosed with... LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #83
This is a commandment for respect of Fetterman. The Grand Illuminist Jun 2022 #84

angrychair

(12,285 posts)
1. I'll be honest
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:44 AM
Jun 2022

I would have felt safer going against Oz with Malcolm than Fetterman. Especially now.

TexasTowelie

(127,353 posts)
4. No,
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 02:25 AM
Jun 2022

I read that the state party committee decides who is the candidate if Fetterman is unable to run. The decision has to be made by August in order for that candidate's name to appear on the ballot. I suspect that the party would pay close attention to whomever Fetterman recommends for the position.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
36. No he isn't dropping out...and will be fine. Nice try though. Connor couldn't win a primary, he
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:04 PM
Jun 2022

wouldn't win a General. Connor Lamb is not the candidate thankfully.

Polybius

(21,902 posts)
51. No nice try
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:48 PM
Jun 2022

I don't want Lamb anywhere neat the Senate. I just wanted to know what would happen. The other poster explained it.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
58. My mistake. I don't want Lamb anywhere near the Senate either. I have been convinced for
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jun 2022

for a while that Lamb would vote with Manchin and Sinema. We need them for sure to hold the majority. But I see nothing but gridlock if we elect another like them. Thus I believe Fetterman is the best choice and he is electable too.

Polybius

(21,902 posts)
64. It's all good
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 02:16 PM
Jun 2022

The only time that I would want a Lamb type to win a Senate nomination would be in a very Red state like Alabama. Even then, I'm not so sure.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
68. Correct...I would say Tim Ryan is a moderate and I love the guy. Although like Biden I think he
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 04:05 PM
Jun 2022

really is more progressive than people realize.

pecosbob

(8,387 posts)
5. Bad journalism
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 03:48 AM
Jun 2022

How do you use the phrases 'clean bill of health' and 'unreported heart condition' in the same sentence?

FarPoint

(14,766 posts)
6. Dick Cheney....
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 05:01 AM
Jun 2022

now he had and still has a serious heart condition... Cheney was with a much more compromised heart as VP and is still kicking today...over 20 years...Cheney had a pacer defibrillator during his VP reign as well....

So, don't let this announcement treat Fetterman like we are buying livestock.

yellowdogintexas

(23,694 posts)
75. and if they do, push back with President Eisenhower's medical history
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 12:41 PM
Jun 2022

FGS, he had a heart attack while he was POTUS and spent 2 weeks in the hospital! I remember seeing photos of him reading papers in his hospital bed (in a newspaper, anyone remember those?)

LBJ had already had a serious heart attack before the 1960 campaign, and had surgery while in the White House.

Sometimes being old has its advantages, especially when it comes to ancient history!

Interestingly, the country did not go into a spasm of fear because Nixon was the VP. (perhaps that should have been the case, but who knew what would happen 20 years later). Think Pence. Cheyney. At one time I would have included Quayle but he pales in comparison. He may have made himself look less than bright, but he was not the personification of evil that they were either.

Probatim

(3,286 posts)
26. I'm sure Oz will be diagnosing Fetterman throughout the campaign.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 09:44 AM
Jun 2022

And have miracle cures for him to run out and purchase.

FloridaBlues

(4,669 posts)
8. Before too much time goes by he needs to do a interview from his home
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 06:33 AM
Jun 2022

So his voters can see he’s up for this campaign. The sooner the better before republicans frame him.

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
9. What Dem voters are "questioning" Fetterman's health?
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 07:49 AM
Jun 2022

just askin'...

Jmo, but I think some Lamb supporters are still mad their guy lost by 40 pts and in all 67 counties, many of which contain the kind of moderate voter to whom he was supposed to appeal.

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
22. Here
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 09:11 AM
Jun 2022
Pennsylvania voters have quietly questioned their nominee’s fitness in the weeks after the health scare.


My presumption is those "voters" are Dems because why would Rs care?

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
34. It says that "Pennsylvania voters" are questioning the candidate's "fitness" after a health scare.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 11:09 AM
Jun 2022

Where's the part about "'Dem' voters" questioning Fetterman's "health"?

DFW

(60,186 posts)
79. Sometimes little words make a difference
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 08:39 AM
Jun 2022

It read, „Pennsylvania voters are questioning THEIR nominee‘s fitness,“ not „THE nominee‘s fitness.“

“Their nominee“ would mean Democrats, since he‘s not the nominee of the Republicans.

Besides, Republicans never question anything said or done by their party. If Trump runs, picks Louie Gohmert as his running mate, drops dead and leaves Gohmert to head the ticket, Fox Noise will declare it a sign from God, and 42.5% of American voters will believe it, especially after he picks Loony Boobert to be his running mate.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
82. He is the nominee of Pennsylvania voters because he is the nominee for their Senate seat. N/T
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:09 AM
Jun 2022

Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
23. Big +1
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 09:12 AM
Jun 2022

A lot of Collinsesque "concern" here. Doctor says no reason to think Fetterman will be unable to campaign or do his job as a senator and so far the responses are "will they pick a replacement" and the "repubs will exploit this". On a Democratic site! Sheesh

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
25. That's because there are some who
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 09:25 AM
Jun 2022

think only a "moderate" can win in Pennsylvania and also are obessed with winning over Rs. The latter is like chasing the white whale.

Fetterman has the correct strategy of turning out the regular Dem voters and the "discouraged" Dems in red areas and counties. His message and bearing are going to win over blue collar voters while he's at it. In fact, this strategy is exactly how Trump won, by turning out the "unlikely" and "unlikeliest of" voters.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
42. Pennsylvania is a swing state, and the fact they elected Santorum and Toomy attest that it also can
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:30 PM
Jun 2022

be a very unpredictable state

There was a time when it was reliably blue, but so was Ohio, Wisconsin, etc.

What the hell happened?




Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
53. True...however...consider who they didn't elect...the last one being Katie McGinty.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:53 PM
Jun 2022

Fetterman is a really good candidate and not just for PA either. We need more like him. Connor is great in the House but I don't see him going anywhere else.

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
65. Whoever her campaign manager was, gave her really bad advice
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 02:18 PM
Jun 2022

She never ran on her credentials, which were good. Her entire campaign was "I'm one of 10 kids" and my parents worked hard. That was it!!!

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
67. I know...I really think we can win this one...just sorry I can't vote for Fetterman as I live just
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 04:03 PM
Jun 2022

outside of PA in Ohio. I do hope to vote for him at some point for president!

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
63. Here's the part most outside analysts don't understand,
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 02:15 PM
Jun 2022

even though western Pennsylvania, and that's pretty much everywhere west of Cambria county, has lost a lot of population, we vote at very high percentages. That gives western PA outsized influence in relation to its actual number of registered voters. Western Pennsylvanians are also extraordinarily loyal to candidates from the area (this will benefit Fetterman, too). That's why Santorum won. He lost because he offended those same voters with the very mundane issues of a) living in Virginia, not Penn Hills although he kept his house there; b) trying to skip out on jury duty and c) getting free tuition for his kids at a local charter cyber school. Having Bob Casey, jr as an opponent was just icing on the cake.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
81. Casey's Dad was a very popular governor in PA...and carpetbagger Oz is going to have a
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 08:56 AM
Jun 2022

problem running against Fetterman.

groundloop

(13,849 posts)
40. Yes GOPers will exploit this, that's just their nature
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:16 PM
Jun 2022

I never said I don't fully support our Democratic nominee, just that GOPers will attempt to use his health issues against him. That's what they do. Hell, just look at the awful things they say about President Biden.

Is it somehow anti Democratic Party to give an opinion about the dirty tricks GOPers will pull during an election?

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
43. Yes it can be. When one echos GOP talking points on social media, it can depress the vote.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:36 PM
Jun 2022

Democrats need to support our candidate period full stop. Connor Lamb for those of you reading this will not be the nominee thankfully. He would have lost the Senate seat. Not that he is a bad guy, he is not. But he could not win statewide.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
45. I don't think the health issues will fly or be effective. I think they will use his support of
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:37 PM
Jun 2022

Bernie Sanders to try and scare the independents with words like "socialist"

There are effective strategies to counter that, but you have to come out fast and strong if the opposition does that, before it has a chance to gain traction.

That lesson should have been learned from the example of President Obama. When they tried to equate him with Rev. Wright and Bill Ayres, he did not hesitate to push back on that characterization, and made it clear where HE stood, and what his philosophy was.


Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
48. The phrasing makes it sound like they will be successful
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:43 PM
Jun 2022

Better and more accurate: the GOP will TRY to exploit this. I don't think it will work.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
37. Lamb supporters of course...still have a hurt that their guy lost miserably...in fact today on
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:08 PM
Jun 2022

on a different thread...one poster said 'if' Fetterman is the candidate...pretty telling that. I guess some think you only have to vote for the Democratic candidate if he is your guy in the primary.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
46. No, Fetterman will get his message out. Lamb and Kenyetta tried to make it about the gun
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:39 PM
Jun 2022

incident and failed miserably. If Oz tries about health or whatever attack he favors, he too will fail. And while Fetterman won't attack Democratic opponents. He will destroy Oz happily.

dutch777

(5,068 posts)
12. He gets points for transparency but opens up questions of poor judgement
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 08:18 AM
Jun 2022

I am glad Oz is the opponent. Will have to see how Fetterman does getting back into the fight. The meds he is likely on will take some getting used to and his energy may lag.

gab13by13

(32,324 posts)
14. Why would his energy lag?
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 08:26 AM
Jun 2022

Your energy lags when your heart is in A-fib, I know, I fought with A-fib for 9 years. I had an ablation 1 1/2 years ago that fixed my A-fib. I exercised like crazy after my heart was back in rhythm. My heart ejection % was 40% when I was in A-Fib, now because of exercise I am at a normal 55%.

Fetterman needs to exercise and lose weight, not sit back in a recliner and rest.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
38. I thought we supported Democratic candidates here...seriously? Well you know what they say
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:09 PM
Jun 2022

'with friends like...you know the rest.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
47. Well, I think it is poor judgement not to support the Democratic candidate in every race.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:41 PM
Jun 2022

This comment is not directed at you.

dutch777

(5,068 posts)
87. Totally agree and glad Oz is the opponent for Fetterman
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:32 PM
Jun 2022

I think the Trump imprimatur will lose Oz more Repug votes that McCormick could have gotten in the general election. My neighbors are "old school traditional" Republicans and they can't stand Trump and anyone that has Trump's support has lost their's. Now I don't know if that means they vote for Fetterman or abstain or do a write in, but it won't be a vote for Oz.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
49. I have to believe that if Fetterman did not feel up to the task he would step aside. Since it
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:44 PM
Jun 2022

does not appear he will do that, we must assume he is up to the task, and it would be counter-productive to think otherwise.

I personally am glad he reported the situation with his health. It should take that issue off the table

Our biggest issue will be GOTV, and if the Democrats, especially the young, do not come out in droves, I will be very pissed




dutch777

(5,068 posts)
86. I agree. I think he is a straight up guy and will do what is right for the voters. Has my vote.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:26 PM
Jun 2022

gab13by13

(32,324 posts)
13. I am a Pennsylvania voter.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 08:21 AM
Jun 2022

"Pennsylvania voters have quietly questioned their nominee’s fitness in the weeks after the health scare."

I have not. Maybe we are posting here what GQP Republican voters are quietly saying?

How many more anti-Fetterman posts will we see leading up to November?

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
39. Can I just say that the anti-Fetterman posts are a fucking disgrace and should not be posted on
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:12 PM
Jun 2022

DU. And some have lectured others about the importance of supporting Democratic candidates. I think some of them may want to lose the seat because they would rather have Oz than Fetterman which is mind-boggling...guess they want to be 'right'.

FarPoint

(14,766 posts)
15. Another clinical view...
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 08:33 AM
Jun 2022

Greg Abbott is a paraplegic....he is at very high risk for sepsis...probably has a catheter for urine like a supra-pubic and maybe even a colostomy for bowels...

Abbott is at higher risk for clinical demise than Fetterman at this point.

gab13by13

(32,324 posts)
18. A-Fib is what tires you out,
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 08:44 AM
Jun 2022

I know, I had it off and on for 9 years. Fetterman's heart is back in rhythm now and he will feel much more invigorated with his heart beating normally.

FarPoint

(14,766 posts)
21. Absolutely he is feeling new and improved now.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 09:05 AM
Jun 2022

As an RN....I see the benefits of his clinical interventions....Now, he needs to do his part on disease management , exercise, diet...

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
20. "I almost died...."
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 09:00 AM
Jun 2022
“The stroke I suffered on May 13 didn’t come out of nowhere,” Fetterman said, and “as a result, I almost died. I want to encourage others to not make the same mistake.”

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-pennsylvania-government-and-politics-0c413bfeb7b00ceae5c172c7fa33007e


Can you understand why some of us might be concerned?

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
24. I can see why you are concerned
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 09:15 AM
Jun 2022

since your candidate lost in convincing fashion, you can't seem to get over that fact and would like nothing better than for Fetterman to step aside and Lamb to replace him.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
30. One of the earliest lessons I learned was: accept your losses and move on.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 10:27 AM
Jun 2022

But in the context of the national election, there are many candidates asking for my financial support, and I need to decide which are competitive and which are not. I'm not saying Fetterman isn't; I'm saying I had concerns before and I still do.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
52. What is this their third or fourth post where you announce that Fetterman is not unlikrly to
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:48 PM
Jun 2022

receive donations from you? I asked you in the last post which seats are more competitive and more critical than PA...still no answer. I guess we will have to win without your help in terms of finances. First, some demanded Fetterman's doctors release all information...he has done that but now they still want Connor Lamb...not surprising but not going to happen. Fetterman will be the candidate. He will be the next Senator from the great state of Pennsylvania.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
54. I've said several times which I think are more competitive...
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jun 2022

SEN: NC and WI.
GOV: kS, Wi and PA

I keep mentioning my approach to financial support because other keep telling me my concerns about Fetterman are because I’m “angry”.

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
72. Your post-primary posts don't support your claim
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 06:42 AM
Jun 2022

We have a candidate, yet you continue to post about your concerns. You haven't "moved on". It would not surprise me at all if you are part of the whispering campaign about Fetterman's health that is making its way through the media via anonymous Dem sources.

It's not as if you have posted numerous threads on the health of Van Holland or Lujan, who also could've died from their strokes or if Van Holland, also up for re-election in Nov, should be replaced on MD's ballot. You just have concerns about our PA Dem candidate.

Cha

(319,081 posts)
69. No.. if something happens to a Candidate
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 04:33 PM
Jun 2022

chosen in the Primary.. the State Party chooses the replacement.

Fetterman says he "almost died.". that's a little cause for concern.

💙💛

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
77. It is not a concern for me and for others who supported him...he is fine and has been
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 08:39 PM
Jun 2022

transparent and will not be replaced. I know you wanted Lamb but trust me on this Lamb would lose the general. Lamb lost by 30 or more points...that is not a guy who can win. I lived in PA...and it would be even worse because Lamb is kind of boring and he would be running against Oz-a celebrity. Fetterman is just what we need. And in my opinion, the illness will probably increase his support. People like a person who is candid and a fighter and of course who listens to his wife. Nice to see you Cha...hope you and yours are well.

Cha

(319,081 posts)
85. Yes, I wanted Conor Lamb but since
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:00 PM
Jun 2022

Fetterman won the primary.. I want him to win now.

This has nothing to do with wanting Conor Lamb to win.. I want Fetterman to win the GE.

And, since you brought this up again.. I don't think it's helpful to smear "Lamb with Manchin and Sinema".. Lamb voted to win in his District Kind of like what you said about Fetterman when he didn't agree with the Philly Mask Mandate.

It's divisive and not helpful.

Oz is a Fascist sociopathic Fuck.. and it's not "boring to listen to Reality.

💙💛



Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
28. His doctor said he is fine to run and serve
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 09:50 AM
Jun 2022

Doesn't that alleviate your concern Sus .. I mean brooklyn?

gab13by13

(32,324 posts)
29. Yeah, I almost died too,
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 09:52 AM
Jun 2022

my heart was beating out of rhythm at 150 beats per minute then I left my rural hospital and found a great surgeon in Pittsburghwho took care of my A-fib. My heart in 1 1/2 years is totally back to normal and I am on no medications, no implants.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
32. Which candidate should I not support if we do?
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 10:31 AM
Jun 2022

Should I give $5,000 to Fetterman and not to Beasley? or Ryan? Or the eventual nominee in Wisconsin?

I'm tracking about 800 Democratic candidates from Senate down to Secretary of State. I can't financially support all of them. I have to decide which are the most competitive.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
57. You're forgetting Kay Hagan...
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:05 PM
Jun 2022

…and the fact that NC has had a Democratic Governor and AG for six years.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
60. Kay Hagan was back in 08. As for Cheri Beasley, she was just added to Schumer's
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:22 PM
Jun 2022

Senate Majority Pack. Budd still has a slight edge...but yeah I can see where she is worth supporting. However, so is Fetterman. It is a very important seat.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
41. No, I do not. I think it is a matter of some folks didn't get the candidate they wanted. And
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:21 PM
Jun 2022

most of them have never lived in PA and know nothing about PA. I lived there for years. And Fetterman has a good chance of winning.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
44. We'll, I HAVE lived in Pennsylvania...
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:37 PM
Jun 2022

I’ve held political office in Pennsylvania. And unless you’re prepare to accuse me of lying, I’d appreciate it if you’d accept the reasons I’ve given for my concern, and not invent motives for me.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
56. I absolutely think you are telling the truth...but I bet you lived in PA years ago right?
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:05 PM
Jun 2022

I question whether you understand what happened to the Democratic Party after you left and believe that you don't understand today's Pennsylvania. Fetterman is a great candidate for not only PA but also for the rustbelt...WI, MI, and OH (he is like Sherrod) ETC.

Consider despite the stroke...he won the primary by double digits and is very popular in PA...hell I think he may be president one day. And the 'well I support him but I won't support him financially'...is just another way of saying you don't support Fetterman fully. He is the Democratic nominee. It is not 'if' he is the Democratic nominee. Now, onto the General. You can do as you please as is your right.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
59. In that case I don't support dozens of candidates fully.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jun 2022

I'm not in this for a candidate; I'm in this for the Democratic Party. Its not enough to win Pennsylvania; we have to hold AND expand the Senate. And hold the House. And hold Governerships. And elect AGs and SOSs. So I have to make choices.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
61. Fetterman is a great fund raiser...he had so much more money than other candidates...so
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:31 PM
Jun 2022

I don't care if you choose not to support him financially. Winning PA would expand the Senate assuming all the Senators we have currently won. Biden would get nothing no judges and no legislation if we lose the Senate.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
62. This is my final word on the matter as it is your money to do with as you choose. I think you
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:35 PM
Jun 2022

are wrong not to support Fetterman. The Senate race in Pennsylvania is a very important race and is likely to make the difference in whether we hold the Senate or we don't.

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
73. You lived in Philadelphia which is not like
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 06:55 AM
Jun 2022

the rest of Pennsylvania. Your elected office was committeeperson or ward leader, iirc from your posts.

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,645 posts)
50. Concerned that he learned his lesson and changed his behavior?
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:45 PM
Jun 2022

Shows me that he's an intelligent person who learns from his mistakes. Not a negative to me.

turbinetree

(27,551 posts)
35. John Fetterman will be alright....and if anyone wants to question his fitness.....
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:02 PM
Jun 2022

just think about a "guy" that sells BS and supported a "guy" that wanted to over throw an election.... you know committing treason.....and I and millions of others have heart disease and we are still here.......someone needs to ask Oz if he thinks my vote should have been thrown out since I vote .....and does he support a peaceful transfer of power or does he think about sitting in some office with conspiracy to overthrow a government if he doesn't get his fucking way....because in the end this OZ character wanted and got his support from someone that tried to do that with help lots of help, you know the political party called the RNC paying for his (trump...I mean traitors) legal fees....so fuck him and that train he rides and everyone that supports that shit.........




John Fetterman donation page ActBlue:
https://secure.actblue.com/donate/pasen?refcode=jsc

LudwigPastorius

(14,725 posts)
70. I get it. Nobody likes going to the doctor.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 10:31 PM
Jun 2022

If you want to ignore it and possibly kill yourself, have at it, but when you're a candidate you must disclose medical conditions that could adversely affect your ability to perform your duties, and untreated aFib is one of those.

I hope his earlier lack of candor doesn't hurt his chances.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
76. Do you? First of all there was no lack of candor and secondly...let me assure you Fetterman will
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 08:34 PM
Jun 2022

be just fine. I am sure that must be a big relief and all.

LudwigPastorius

(14,725 posts)
83. I wasn't aware that he informed the public that he had been diagnosed with...
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jun 2022

a heart condition 5 years ago.

The Grand Illuminist

(2,040 posts)
84. This is a commandment for respect of Fetterman.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 02:21 PM
Jun 2022

He is choosing sacrifice of his life to serve the greater good of our nation.

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