Fetterman's wife says Democratic Senate candidate may be away from campaign trail until July as he r
Source: CNN
Braddock, Pennsylvania (CNN)Pennsylvania Democratic Senate candidate John Fetterman may be away from the campaign trail until July, his wife told CNN on Monday, as she pushed back on suggestions that the family had not been fully transparent about the extent of his heart condition following a stroke last month.
"I think he deserves a month break to come back as strong as ever," Giselle Fetterman said in an interview with CNN. "This is going to be a tough race and a really important race. I want him to be fully ready for it."
Asked if John Fetterman, who serves as Pennsylvania's lieutenant governor, would return to campaigning by July in one of the nation's marquee Senate contests, she replied: "Maybe. I think so. That's my hope."
Fetterman checked himself into a hospital in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, on May 13 as he was on his way to a campaign event. He was found to have suffered a stroke, which doctors treated, and he was released on May 22 after a nine-day stay. Fetterman's cardiologist said Friday that the candidate suffers from both atrial fibrillation and cardiomyopathy.
Read more: Fetterman's wife says Democratic Senate candidate may be away from campaign trail until July as he recovers from a stroke
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,975 posts)mcar
(42,302 posts)And one wonders why his wife is his spokesperson. Doesn't he have a campaign staff?
Akakoji
(139 posts)More angry that he didnt do anything about this years ago. But hes our guy, very much like millions of men who do the same thing. Hes one of us yo! 🐕 I would like to see her on the trail now though.
Igel
(35,300 posts)Fetterman ended his statement saying he was ready to get back to campaigning:
This race is so important for Pennsylvania and for the country. Im going to be ready for it, and I cant wait to get back on the trail.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)is he in or is that wishful thinking? Another candidate will have to step in and it would be a disaster if this is left too late. THis is, as all know, too important to be vague.
mcar
(42,302 posts)Now, I'm not so sure.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)win. I do not believe Lamb would not win statewide...especially against Oz...Lamb's performance in the primary clearly shows this.
bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)Fetterman is what - 50? 52? Maybe he's in rehab?
And there is his size, which could make treatment more difficult.
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Apparently he ignored them for years.
calimary
(81,220 posts)Hell, for his poor wifes sake, at the very least!
Dont be a jerk! Take care of yourself, dammit. People you love (and who love you) are counting on it.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)This is not good.
mcar
(42,302 posts)ancianita
(36,023 posts)Polybius
(15,385 posts)I'm curious.
BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)And native PA people are wary of carpet baggers.
(but I will say that I am ashamed that we unleashed loons like Newt Gingrich, Orrin Hatch, Ron Paul, and his EVIL SPAWN from the stinking slimy sludge of PA, and into the world )
onetexan
(13,036 posts)Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)Fetterman is the only way we take this seat. I take him at his word.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)and doing events for him until he is able to. His wife, or some spokesperson, or maybe just "get ready, he's coming" kinds of things.
This seat and Johnson's in WI should be bombed with Democratic events and commercials and calls and giveaways. They should both be getting as much money and manpower as they need to do everything they need.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)up but not doing the hard work of creating the events.
The senate could swing on this.
mcar
(42,302 posts)Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)lived in PA. Of course, I think that is completely untrue and I wholeheartedly agree with you!
ancianita
(36,023 posts)Given the campaign ads on Oz alone, he'll beat himself on his own "health" issues alone.
JohnSJ
(92,136 posts)health issues, that is not how to win elections
The only way he will reassure people is if he comes out himself and speaks to them, not his wife
ancianita
(36,023 posts)Neither of us are campaign managers, and media need their controversy feed, but if PA can give a carpetbagger from New Jersey a break, it can sure as hell give their Lt. Governor a break. PA knows that Oz won't beat Fetterman, even if you think the campaign won't run according to formula.
We're not doctors, either, but the Alzheimers prone Oz is at as high a health risk at 61 as Fetterman is at 52.
This isn't about reassurance. This is about guts and trust in PA Democrats in spite of your FUD and media BS.
JohnSJ
(92,136 posts)The FUD by the way this is coming out.
First, a mild stoke, clot removed, pacemaker installed, everything good
Later, add cardiomyopathy
Now, he will be away for a month, I think so, thats my hope
Does that take away any uncertainty?
It isnt the media it is their campaign that are projecting FUD
ancianita
(36,023 posts)You fall for media FUD, that's on you. Don't kid yourself that voters of PA will. They won't.
He's already campaigning, in case you haven't noticed. Already "good health" Oz acts like an alzheimer candidate.
Link to tweet
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Let's hope Dems and the mostly so-called but not liberal at all corporate media doesn't try to force Fetterman out. I can see Andrea (Past her sell date) Mitchell with show after show saying that for the good of his family and the party, he needs to drop out But hey, what could go wrong if Oz wins that Senate seat? His Mom has Alzheimer's Disease and he supposedly has the genetic markers for it, is fine I guess since he is a GQP'er. If it's good enough for Reagan I mean, that Quack Oz could occupy the seat next to fellow GQP'er Herschel Walker who has a chance to win/steal Rafael Warnock's seat, yet we KNOW something's definitely wrong with Walker. Friends in Georgia tell me that practically NO ONE's telling Walker to drop out, and although none of us are doctors, it doesn't take one to see that he's going through big-time cognitive decline, on top of his multiple personalities, ignorance, russian roulette wheel-playing, woman-abusing and pulling a gun on his ex-wife self. Oh, and being a 'token' for the GQP as my friends down in Georgia tell me on the regular.
ancianita
(36,023 posts)You get how sunshine Democrats are. How quick they are to doubt and dump less-than-perfect Democrats.
2022 is the time to get our best Democrats into office, not hand wring worry about how media or opponents will score points against them.
On their worst day, Democrats are infinitely better than Republicans on their best day.
Polybius
(15,385 posts)He may not get it until well into his 70's, if at all.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)What I do know is that the GQP will waste no time in trying to push a Fetterman out. I mean good Lord look at Herschel Walker. That guy is in some steep cognitive decline right in our faces, and you don't need to be a doctor to see and hear that, yet if you believe the polling in Georgia, he and Warnock are in a dead heat. I know what Georgia IS--that racist, homophobic, ignorant Greene hails from there and she's in the Congress. Back to Walker, I've heard NO GQP'er telling him to leave. I'm hoping that the so-called Liberal media folks like Andrea Mitchell don't start a drumbeat of telling Fetterman to leave for his family's sake and for the good of the people of Pennsylvania. I haven't watched Mitchell since she went bat-shit crazy over Hillary's imagined email problem, yet Ivanka and her evil mannequin, slum-lord, greedy husband--as did most of those serving under fatso45--were said to be using private email servers/emails like a short-order cook flipping flap jacks. Mitchell didn't say BOO when that came out. Most in this corporate media suck, and most in this so-called liberal media are not liberal at all, but secretly root for Biden's poll numbers to continue to fall, for discord and mayhem to happen during this Biden Administration. It's one thing if Fetterman said himself that he cannot serve. But until or unless that happens I'm hoping that he keeps on pushing if he can. I sure don't want to see another Katie Hill scenario develop in Pa. where she left her seat here in California and was forced out by GQP'ers. The guy who won and replaced her--GQP'er and tRump butt-kisser Mike Garcia is STILL to this day says that Biden is guilty of treason, because he stole the presidency from tRump. Good grief, plus you have Matt pedophile Gaetz still sitting in the Congress and disgusting enablers like Gym treasonous Jordan doing his disgusting, treasonous thing in the Congress as well.
Polybius
(15,385 posts)What are the chances that Chuck Grassley finishes out his next term when (not if) he gets re-elected? He'd be 95! I'd be willing to bet that there's a far greater chance of an 89 year old not making it to 95 than Oz getting Alzheimer's by the time he's 67. FAR greater. Yet Grassley will be re-elected in a landslide. I don't like Oz, but I'd have no problem voting for a 61 year old who's mom had Alzheimer's, so long as he or she was a Democrat.
The rest I completely agree with you though. Walker sounds like he has brain damage. I don't think it's his intelligence. Even MTG can put together a sentence (a bad sentence, but still put together lol).
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Fair enough
As for Grassley .....
You know what, I think he's in trouble and will leave even with his landslide win, because he too is up to his hips in Jan. 6th attempted coup. Remember in the beginning he had nerve to say that the election may have been stolen from tRump
But now as more information surfaces .....
Why did Chuck Grassley expect Pence's absence from the Capitol on 6 January?
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/12/11/2068803/-So-why-did-Chuck-Grassley-expect-Pence-s-absence-from-the-Capitol-on-6-January
And you and I both know His ass is grass would try to stay in office until 100 like that other child probable rapist/racist Dixiecrat Thurmond. Friends in SC tell me that he was on fumes while in the Senate also, in that he'd understandably started to forget who and where he was. He wasn't voting on bills et al. Someone else was it was alleged. The telling sign was him not remembering people he'd known for decades.
He'll win in a landslide as you said, but it's good to know he got some backlash for his love of the gun and of not giving a damn about how many people have to be slaughtered before we get any meaningful gun legislation:
Sen. Chuck Grassley's Iowa Town Hall Heats Up over Inaction on Gun Violence: 'The Answer Is Not to Do Nothing.'
https://people.com/politics/iowa-town-hall-heats-up-over-inaction-on-gun-violence/
Polybius
(15,385 posts)Grassley is small potatoes as far as January 6th. I don't believe that a single member of Congress or even Trump will be indited. I'd be happy to be wrong though.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)Do you live in PA...just curious.
Polybius
(15,385 posts)I said that I didn't want Lamb near the Senate. I'm in NYC.
Basically, we're on the same page, but the only difference is that I worry too much. I'm always concerned about losing.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)July makes it two months.
Wife is saying:Its still a hiccup, she said on Monday.
mcar
(42,302 posts)until August? They are going to define Fetterman.
His campaign lost a lot of time already due to his health concerns. Now they are just shrugging and saying, oh well, he'll be back in July maybe? Actually it's not his campaign, it's his wife. Where TF are his campaign people?
ancianita
(36,023 posts)in Fetterman as Lt. Governor. Of course Fetterman is going to recover and keep running.
See? You doubters are your own worst enemy.
If you have to ask where TF are his campaign people, you haven't been paying attention.
Link to tweet
"A Democrat with backbone, does the right thing no matter what."
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)He is going to be a great Senator...those who 'worry' supported a different candidate. I was told it was a continuation of 16 politics? Don't see how but who cares. We are going to win and since the ones doing this don't live in PA, they can't vote anyway.
Thanks. It's good to know this. I'd just add that the FUD here also shows a forgetting or distrust about the blue waves of 2018 and 2020. Doubters need to stop the knee jerk worrying reactions to any & all media hype about Democrats. They need to think, get some spine, really focus from here on out. Because all of us have got to stay mentally and emotionally strong in the face of what will happen in the fall. FUD will be a drag on our party until they see that where they get it from -- it's not from the party.
karynnj
(59,501 posts)For the last 2 years, many people have become very used to remote learning and even remote religious services. I wonder if his team is rethinking how he could "meet" small or medium size groups of people focused on their concerns and interests.
This would spare him a lot of wear and tear while still getting him in contact with constituents.
ancianita
(36,023 posts)Or like this?
Just helping you with your support of him and his team's rethinking.
Dave says
(4,616 posts)John, rest, recover. Then win. Pennsylvania needs you (I don't live in Pennsylvania). The country needs you. You will be a remarkable Senator at a remarkable time in history.
(... hope he reads DU ...)
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)the health of some of those Senators.
Polybius
(15,385 posts)So late October would be ok? Or were you exaggerating?
JohnSJ
(92,136 posts)not, so if he decides not to run an appropriate candidate can be chosen by the Pennsylvania Democratic Party ASAP.
The answer of maybe, and I hope so is not good enough. If he cannot be ready in one month, we need a new candidate
I feel sorry for the anxiety he must be going through, but it will only get harder from here, and he better be up to it, or drop out
Frankly this doesnt sound good at all, and I am not sure a one month delay is fair to the voters, or his family. Why isnt he speaking for himself instead of his wife?
BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)Maryland has its primary July 19 and there is a (D) candidate running against him.
By Paul LeBlanc, CNN
Updated 10:42 PM ET, Sun May 22, 2022
Washington (CNN)Sen. Chris Van Hollen said Sunday he's been released from the hospital after suffering a "minor stroke" last week. "It's great to be back home after a long week. I'm grateful for the generous outpouring of support from everyone and the dedicated care I received from the team at GW," the Maryland Democrat tweeted.
The lawmaker was admitted to George Washington University Hospital after he had been "experiencing lightheadedness and acute neck pain" while delivering a speech in his home state, according to a previous statement. He said in the statement at the time he had sought medical help upon returning home at a doctor's recommendation.
Van Hollen, who is up for reelection this year, said his doctors told him "there are no long-term effects or damage as a result of this incident." His hospitalization served as another reminder of Democrats' thin majority in the 50-50 Senate, where they cannot afford to lose any votes.
Democratic Sen. Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico returned to work in March after suffering a stroke earlier this year. Earlier Sunday, Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, the Democratic nominee for the commonwealth's open Senate seat, was released from the hospital nine days after he checked in and was found to have suffered a stroke.
(snip)
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/22/politics/chris-van-hollen-stroke-released-hospital/index.html
By Josh Kurtz
May 16, 2022
Heres a hopeful sign that U.S. Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), who suffered a mild stroke over the weekend, is on the mend: His wife, Katherine Van Hollen, pinch-hit for him Monday morning at a scheduled public appearance. Other than confessing to being over-caffeinated, she was in good spirits.
The senator was due to speak at a fundraiser in Baltimore for the Maryland Health Care For All Coalition. Hes resting for the next few days after taking ill at the Western Maryland Democratic Summit on Saturday. While Van Hollen was speaking at the summit late Saturday morning, he experienced some light-headedness and felt a pop in the back of his neck.
But it wasnt apparent to the members of the audience; they thought he was leaning into the podium for dramatic effect during a rousing partisan address. Only hours later, after a visit to George Washington University Hospital in Washington, D.C., did doctors realize that Van Hollen had had a mild stroke.
But the 63-year-old senator is on the mend, his wife reported at the Maryland Health Care For All fundraiser. Chris is very unhappy and frustrated that he cant be here in person, Katherine Van Hollen said. Her husband, she said, was eager to get out of the hospital and return to work as quickly as possible, which is likely to happen later this week, according to his office.
(snip)
https://www.marylandmatters.org/2022/05/16/van-hollen-eager-to-get-back-to-work-his-wife-tells-baltimore-political-gathering/
And what about NM (D) Senator Ben Ray Luján who suffered a stroke at the end of January and finally made it back to the Senate in early March. He's even YOUNGER than Fetterman (49 years old) and just got re-elected in 2020.
By Associated Press | March 3, 2022, at 5:16 p.m.
U.S. News & World Report
WASHINGTON (AP) Democratic Sen. Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico returned to Congress on Thursday for the first time since he had a stroke, which kept him away from Washington for weeks and temporarily weakened Democrat's hold on power in the equally divided Senate.
Luján received a standing ovation as he entered a morning hearing of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee and was greeted with hugs and fist-bumps from senators later as he stood on the Senate floor during votes.
Teary-eyed, he thanked colleagues at the morning hearing for their support and told them: Its an absolute honor to be back.Every one of you that sent me notes, that sent videos, and all the prayers -- it worked, Luján said.
Luján, 49, began experiencing dizziness and fatigue on Jan. 27 and checked himself into a hospital in Santa Fe, New Mexico, his office said. He was diagnosed as having had a stroke in the cerebellum and he had surgery to ease swelling in his brain.
(snip)
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-03-03/sen-ben-ray-lujan-absolute-honor-to-be-back-after-stroke
So do we fucking throw all of our Democrats under the bus unless they are in picture perfect Jack LaLanne health?
DU needs to stop gaslighting our candidates with this bullshit.
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)One is an incumbent (and 20-year congressman) in a race that would be very difficult to lose in November while the other is trying to take away a red seat in a state that is no guarantee
Call it cynical if you like, but the political calculus is straightforward. If the party believes (for example) that a stroke will cause a 2-3 point loss in support. The "what do we do next?" question is answered differently when that only endangers one of the two races.
had a stroke the same weekend as Fetterman , and spent a week in the hospital, and hasn't been heard from on the campaign trail since
It's also worth noting that Van Hollen is back at work and voting in the Senate while we're currently discussing whether Fetterman can return to the campaign trail in a month. He also didn't get a pacemaker and have a doctor reveal that he had been ignoring critical medical advice for years. They both had a stroke on the same weekend perhaps... but they are not similarly-situated in terms of health concerns going forward.
But the clear difference between the two scenarios is "Tossup" vs. "Solid D"
BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)No there isn't. It's a "seat" in a 50-50 Senate, where we sit on the edge of "losing control" with the loss of ONE Democrat yet we are here arguing about a seat that we hope BOLSTERS Democrats in the Senate, and are now gaslighting him for some reason.
And be aware that my whole thrust of argument is that there seems to be weighting a "loss of control" of the Senate and associating that with Fetterman, where people forget that the current seat is Teabagger Toomey's seat.
Call it cynical if you like, but the political calculus is straightforward. If the party believes (for example) that a stroke will cause a 2-3 point loss in support. The "what do we do next?" question is answered differently when that only endangers one of the two races.
My argument has nothing to do with "support". He has huge support here in PA, particularly among Democrats, to the point of beating Lamb by a 2 - 1 margin. Republicans have still been split on whether they support someone like Oz, to the point where you have RW PACs like Club For Growth who were pumping all their money behind someone (Barnett) NOT Oz, which is why she even came in 3rd in their primary.
It's also worth noting that Van Hollen is back at work and voting in the Senate while we're currently discussing whether Fetterman can return to the campaign trail in a month. He also didn't get a pacemaker and have a doctor reveal that he had been ignoring critical medical advice for years. They both had a stroke on the same weekend perhaps... but they are not similarly-situated in terms of health concerns going forward.
Is Van Hollen "on the campaign trail" going to every County in the state of MD? He has a primary challenger and the primary is July 17.
PA's primary is DONE. Fetterman went to EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATE OF PA before the primary and before his illness.
And note, I am absolutely NOT against Van Hollen. He has been an incredible Rep. in the House and recently as a Senator. But the point is that why is there this cherry-picking?
You had a 49-year old Senator from NM who was out after his stroke for over a month, and is back but only at "90%". We haven't even given Fetterman that chance, and he is has probably campaigned more than any of these other people since he announced.
We have been told he'll be back on the trail starting in July, and that is when there are many Independence Day celebrations including the annual "Wawa Welcome America" celebration here in Philly, which might make this a good stop considering he has the "Sheetz vs Wawa" thing going.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)for Van Hollen's seat...you feel is untrue because like others for some unknown reason you don't seem to support Fetterman which is surprising as he is the Democratic candidate. I would say to all Lamb supporters...Lamb lost the primary by more than thirty points. Why would you think he could win statewide?
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Who says I supported Lamb or oppose Fetterman? I barely know the first thing about Lamb and can only assume that (had I paid attention to the race) I would support a candidate who had already won at the statewide level over someone who represented a single district (and came quite close to losing it in 2020).
The only points I've made (and both are the opposite of "untrue" ) are:
1 - two candidates who both have a mild stroke are not similarly situated if one of them resulted of a more serious underlying heart condition that was not disclosed and was knowingly left untreated for years (and then that candidate also received a pacemaker). Those don't raise the same concerns in the eyes of the voting public.
2 - even if they were similarly situated medically-speaking. Something that might sway a small to moderate number of voters (let's say... 2-3%) is simply a different concern in a race that will probably come down to the wire than it is in a race that we'll win by 20-30%. Van Hollen will also start to hear worried grumblings if there's any concern that he could lose the seat due to a health problem... but he's MUCH farther from such a concern. Not really because his medical condition is less severe (though it does appear to be), but because he has so much more room for error.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)msongs
(67,395 posts)JohnSJ
(92,136 posts)ancianita
(36,023 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)msongs
(67,395 posts)Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)not be replaced because DC knows he is their best shot.
ancianita
(36,023 posts)If he does what Ive told him, and I do believe that he is taking his recovery and his health very seriously at this time, he should be able to campaign and serve in the U.S. Senate without a problem, Fettermans cardiologist, Dr. Ramesh R Chandra, said.
Dr. Chandra said Fetterman is well compensated and stable, and that his defibrillator is working perfectly.
Fetterman ended his statement saying he was ready to get back to campaigning:
This race is so important for Pennsylvania and for the country. Im going to be ready for it, and I cant wait to get back on the trail.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)Any politician that the state pols appoint is going to lose and have always lost. The fact is Fetterman is it...our only chance. People who don't understand PA and have never lived there don't get that. Fetterman is airing new commercials. So perhaps you could relax. I think we got this.
JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)The dude reminds me of another Big John from folklore of the past:
Wiki
Except, I want him to live for at least another 52 years as our Senator!
PlanetBev
(4,104 posts)It was discovered quite by accident in late 2017. I was getting a pre-surgery clearance when they diagnosed it. Within a month, I had a defibrillator and went on medication and have never missed a day or doctors appointment.
I cant imagine blowing off any type of health warning. I wonder what he was thinking? 🤔 None of us are immortal.
PlanetBev
(4,104 posts)Im 71 and never felt better. No reason why Big John shouldnt make a full recovery ❤️?🩹
That said, Trump looks like a walking heart attack. I seriously doubt hes healthy as he tries to appear.
Skittles
(153,149 posts)just by listening to your heart?
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)I didn't post this. Or the pieces on Friday and Saturday.
Maybe the concern is larger than a handful of people who are supposedly "angry".....
JohnSJ
(92,136 posts)Manifestations seem to appear every few days
That is not because of the press or those handful of people, but the way the campaign released the information, and that created the concern
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)Polybius
(15,385 posts)I'm in NYC, true. But I'm a little worried and I absolutely love Fetterman. I didn't want Lamb anywhere near the Senate. Honestly though, I always worry with politics. I should be more optimistic.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)I am thankful for that as he would not win a statewide race...his piss poor performance in the primary clearly shows this. I see most of these 'concern' articles hail from those who do not live in PA nor ever lived in PA and mostly supported a different nominee.
There is a new OP in GD posted by a Pennsylvanian where Fetterman's wife has said he will resume campaigning in July...not far away. He is also running new ads. And if you want to see what it takes to win the rustbelt I suggest you watch a couple. I should add he is running them on Fox too...and there will be a crossover vote.
Polybius
(15,385 posts)Turns out we were right. While I don't always agree with you, keep doing what you're doing.
summer_in_TX
(2,733 posts)back in 2014. A year later he had a hip replaced.
In both cases, he dealt with pretty intense pain for about seven weeks. Only then did he begin being able to rehab other than in a minor way. The pain was still there but was less intense.
I don't know what kind of surgery Fetterman had exactly, but I'd expect him to not be ready to be in public for well over seven weeks. Too soon in public and he'd lend evidence to the rumor he wasn't up to it.
I am not worried about Fetterman's absence from the campaign trail. I expect he'll be back at it and do well if given time to heal and get his strength back up.
Raine
(30,540 posts)now they often start a year or two before the election. It certainly seems he'll fall behind by getting such a late start.🤔
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)resume his campaign... he campaigned in every county during the primary and will be just fine. Watch, he will take some of the GOP vote away from Oz.
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)Senator Ben Ray Lujan missed a month of Senate duty after his uncomplicated minor stroke and no one batted an eye.
A loved one had a pacemaker implanted and was told no strenuous activity for 2 weeks after going home. Fetterman was released on 5/23. Two weeks from that date is 6/7.
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)So you have admitted that he "won" and is a sitting Senator?
Does that apply to Van Hollen who is up for re-election?
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)As for your second, Van Hollen's health might have been an issue if it took him off the campaign trail (it didn't) and if he had serious competition (he doesn't). Meanwhile Fetterman IS off the campaign trail for the next month, and he has a well-funded, well-know opponent.
BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)It was taken from your own post that was a reply to Deminpenn as some kind of allusion to something about "being elected" ?
When was the last time he was at a campaign event (hint I looked)? I saw something announced as a "Kick-Off" to occur in Frederick, MD that had a bunch of "TBD"s on it for the end of the month -
Yet you thought that Lamb was "serious competition" against Fetterman and also thought that Summer Lee didn't have a chance against Steve Irwin in the new PA-12... Yet here we are. So methinks the Magic 8-ball needs a replacement.
How is it "the next month"? Today is June 7 and all that was announced was that he would get going in July. July is what? 3 weeks from now? When is Van Hollen STARTING? At the end of this month.
And Oz is a fucking carpet-bagger loon who is a resident of NJ. I have been sending $$ to Fetterman's campaign and he raised almost $2 million the day after his primary win.
I see there's a lot of the below going on here.
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)contributing to Fetterman's campaign, perhaps a better use of your time would be to help your preferred candidates and not continue to post your "concerns" to those of us who will be voting in Pennsylvania in Novmember.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)brooklynite
(94,502 posts)Perhaps you should express your concerns to others.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)our two best opportunities to pick up a Senate seat. We should ALL be watching this race and the race for Johnson's seat in WI. AND doing everything we can to make sure Fetterman and the winner of the D Wisconsin primary win.
I really hope the DNC or the DCCC or someone like that understands this and steps in to place hold for Fetterman - running ads, running events, keeping his name circulating - till he is able to campaign. If they don't, they are morons.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)be very interested in the list you gave of those races you consider winnable and how it shakes out...damn I hope you are right about the races you consider competitive. You are of course wrong about PA which is very competitive
BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)and I expect in his case, they would need to adjust his meds and get him into a new lifestyle routine that is probably a bit different from what he was doing previously.
And as a note - Fetterman had not only been to all 67 counties in the state before this happened, but before he even announced this current run, he had previously been to all 67 on a "listening tour" when he was getting an idea on how the electorate felt about legalizing marijuana.
And he is so dynamic and prolific on social media, that he doesn't have to "be here" to talk about his policy preferences, nor try to underscore his affability. It just comes naturally.
This 3rd summer of COVID is when apparently people "have had enough" and planned to go hog wild to enjoy themselves and they sure as hell aren't going to be paying attention to "politics". Once the J6 Hearings are done, I expect Congress will be having an early rest of the summer off as well because it's an election year, and they have to campaign as well, and their last big push will be in the fall.
mcar
(42,302 posts)I just really worry about what the media will do with this - with Rs pushing them. And, I do feel he needs a stronger response from his team, not just his wife.
BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)and is also up for re-election. I know they are chomping at the bits in MD as that seat has always been competitive given the sometime "swingy" nature of MD - which currently has a GOP governor who decided not to run for it, but easily could have.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2926834
Van Hollen's wife was out on the trail on his behalf in Baltimore after that happened last month -
We can't let the GOP define us and what we can and can't do. Why do their work for them?
Our issues are gun control, women's reproductive rights, voting rights, climate change, and clean energy, among other policies, and we need to stick to that and pound it home.
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Republicans aren't going to "make a big deal" out of an issue that might only sway a few percentage points in a race that they're going to lose by 30%... but they will highlight that same issue much closer race.
BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)Have you seen any polls since the primary was supposedly decided in terms of a concession by McCormick (although the official counts aren't sue to be completed and reported until tomorrow)?
It's pretty sad that as crazy as this state has become recently, that some are convinced that the same people who voted for Biden are going to vote for Oz?
And let me ask you a question - do you know why Rick Santorum lost his seat by 18% to Bob Casey, Jr. in 2006? Hint - it has a lot to do with what Oz is going to have a problem with.
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)The simple fact is that PA is rated as a tossup by essentially every expert... while MD is simultaneously rated as a safe seat.
It is, therefore, no surprise that even the same potential issue is of more concern in the first race than in the second.
some are convinced that the same people who voted for Biden are going to vote for Oz?
Can you truthfully say that you didn't make the same assumption about Youngkin in VA?
BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)No, everyone else has "spun" my pointing out the hypocrisy of suddenly hand-wringing about a candidate for a seat that is currently a REPUBLICAN SEAT due to perceived "health issues" where if he actually LOST, then it would make no damn difference to the CURRENT make up of the Senate as 50 - 50.
But if candidates like Van Hollen and current sitting (D) members like Lujan, Leahy, and Feinstein, among others, have a "health episode", we could immediately LOSE CONTROL OF THE SENATE. Not in 2021 but right now.
And again, THAT was not my point. See above.
some are convinced that the same people who voted for Biden are going to vote for Oz?
Can you truthfully say that you didn't make the same assumption about Youngkin in VA?
I live here in PA and was not only born and raised here but am multi-generational, and PA is not VA, which is THE SOUTH and a former slave state with the fucking Capital of the Confederacy that after a century, has finally come to a reckoning with their entrenched glorification of their racist history and past.
What is happening right now with respect to elections here in PA in terms of "modern politics" offers a very unique opportunity, yet what I see on DU is the same old thing that I saw manifest when I first got here - trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It's the same crap that happened with Obama here both in 2008 and 2012.
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)they might not be spending a lot of money on Van Holland's opponent and therefore won't be making a "big deal" out of any issue.
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)is a well-respected heart surgeon and well-versed in cardiac care whatever one may think of the subjects and claims made on his TV show. Maybe it's naive, but I just don't think he would allow his campaign to lie or imply things that he knows aren't true about Fetterman's condition.
BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)into quite a bit of woo too, but I suppose it depends on how much he really wants this seat and if he decides to "go there".
And this is also because as was noted regarding McCormick's sudden concession, there is another PA seat up (Casey's) in 2 years (which would be during a higher-turnout Presidential election cycle and more chance to flip that seat, that used to be Frothy's seat), and Casey isn't nor ever has been as "populist" or "bombastic" as a Fetterman. In fact he's just the opposite.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)I don't believe it will work.
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)I have no idea what meds he's been prescribed although I'd assume a blood thinner, which requires regular blood testing, is one of them. It's small, but there's a subset of people who do not tolerate meds well at all. See below.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/19/well/live/are-some-people-more-sensitive-to-drug-side-effects.html
BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)and put on Warfarin, although I know many hate it and there may be some similar alternates.
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)I don't think it's likely that they put him on warfarin (which does). I think that's mostly still an option because it's so much cheaper than the new alternatives (that can be several hundred dollars per month). Doctors have different preferences depending on the specifics (and whether he tolerates them), but my guess is that eliquis or xarelto are far more likely.
The "bigger deal" is his past history of ignoring the problem and not taking his meds (or seeing a doctor). Hopefully - he's scared back to his senses and will take it seriously.
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)But I don't think she'll need to do that. The Fetterman's have a young family and he is not so callous as to ignore his health again and leave them fatherless.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)there for years and am sad I live in Ohio now. I would have loved to vote for Fetterman...perhaps I will...in some years vote for him for president! Fetterman is going to be a Democratic rockstar...I believe he will be very influential and shows us a path back to winning the rustbelt and helping an entire region that for too long has been ignored.
My husband worked as a quality engineer in Big Auto for thirty years and every plant...all of them closed at some point and we moved on to the next plant. Not one plant my husband worked in remains open today. And every one of those communities was devastated. It is inexcusable that we allowed the few to get rich while destroying God knows how many people's lives with bad global deals (Fetterman references such deals in commercials now being shown on Fox and elsewhere).
No Democrat should ever support any new TPP-type trade agreement if they want to continue to win in the rustbelt. This agreement allowed countries that permitted slavery to join which is truly despicable. We need to make our own stuff...from chips to autos and everything in between. It is a national security issue IMHO. It was through manufacturing that the middle class was born and its slow death has all but destroyed the middle class.
Thanks for posting this Fetterman article...the commercials were exactly on point! 👍👍👍
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216771917