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mcar

(42,302 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:05 PM Jun 2022

Fetterman's wife says Democratic Senate candidate may be away from campaign trail until July as he r

Source: CNN

Braddock, Pennsylvania (CNN)Pennsylvania Democratic Senate candidate John Fetterman may be away from the campaign trail until July, his wife told CNN on Monday, as she pushed back on suggestions that the family had not been fully transparent about the extent of his heart condition following a stroke last month.

"I think he deserves a month break to come back as strong as ever," Giselle Fetterman said in an interview with CNN. "This is going to be a tough race and a really important race. I want him to be fully ready for it."

Asked if John Fetterman, who serves as Pennsylvania's lieutenant governor, would return to campaigning by July in one of the nation's marquee Senate contests, she replied: "Maybe. I think so. That's my hope."

Fetterman checked himself into a hospital in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, on May 13 as he was on his way to a campaign event. He was found to have suffered a stroke, which doctors treated, and he was released on May 22 after a nine-day stay. Fetterman's cardiologist said Friday that the candidate suffers from both atrial fibrillation and cardiomyopathy.

Read more: Fetterman's wife says Democratic Senate candidate may be away from campaign trail until July as he recovers from a stroke

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Fetterman's wife says Democratic Senate candidate may be away from campaign trail until July as he r (Original Post) mcar Jun 2022 OP
I hate to say it - but this does not sound very reassuring. 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2022 #1
It really doesn't mcar Jun 2022 #2
Rather hear it from her Akakoji Jun 2022 #5
Rather hear it from him. n/t Igel Jun 2022 #18
Here. ancianita Jun 2022 #24
"Maybe. I think so. That's my hope." - that's a textbook example of how not to be reassuring. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #3
They Owe It To Constituents To Be Honest Me. Jun 2022 #4
This should be a relatively easy D pickup mcar Jun 2022 #9
It is not an easy pickup...we have lost this seat forever...every six years. But Fetterman can Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #77
Cardiologists should be able to treat those ailments, in a relatively young man, successfully bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #6
Correct... but only if he listens to them FBaggins Jun 2022 #12
I hope he's changed his attitude in this. calimary Jun 2022 #44
This is one of our two best chances to turn an R seat to D. We can't afford to wait till July. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #7
It is not good at all mcar Jun 2022 #10
Yes, we can. We can wait until he's ready. According to PA, he'll win. Look at his poll numbers. ancianita Jun 2022 #27
Date of the poll please Polybius Jun 2022 #35
March 31, 2022 BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #52
+1 K&R onetexan Jun 2022 #88
Lamb would lose for sure...he couldn't even get Democrats to vote for him statewide so Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #66
No. I mean the DNC or another Democratic organization should be stepping in Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #70
Actually, that is a good point. They could run commercials...and run events with Fetterman showing Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #78
Dammit 867-5309. Jun 2022 #8
Yes, it could mcar Jun 2022 #11
No...I have been assured that this seat is not even competitive from somenone who once Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #79
He can stay out as long as he wants. PA knows him and not that guy from Jersey. ancianita Jun 2022 #13
No he can't. If he is not well enough to assume the duties of a Senator because he is burdened by JohnSJ Jun 2022 #15
Yes, he can. He doesn't have to campaign until August at the earliest. ancianita Jun 2022 #17
Then why doesn't he come out and speak for himself? You do not see that they are causing JohnSJ Jun 2022 #19
Let him run his campaign his way. ancianita Jun 2022 #21
Ronald Reagan HAD Alzheimer's while in office .... LenaBaby61 Jun 2022 #30
Right? ancianita Jun 2022 #32
His mom having it isn't him having it now Polybius Jun 2022 #33
I hear you, but how do we know that Oz WON'T get Alzheimer's while in office if he were a Senator? LenaBaby61 Jun 2022 #40
Because we don't vote on ifs, not even if the guy running will be 89 before November Polybius Jun 2022 #42
Re Oz: LenaBaby61 Jun 2022 #48
You have a lot more hope than I do Polybius Jun 2022 #86
So the same is true with Fetterman...but of course you did support Connor Lamb as I recall. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #100
No I didn't Polybius Jun 2022 #102
He has been out since 05/13. sheshe2 Jun 2022 #25
Do you really think Oz and the MSM are going to sit back and wait mcar Jun 2022 #31
Of course not. Of course they are not going to define Fetterman for Pennsylvanians who already voted ancianita Jun 2022 #34
+1000000 Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #80
... ancianita Jun 2022 #99
I would hope that Fetterman himself will start reaching electronically karynnj Jun 2022 #41
What do you mean by "reaching electronically." Like this? ancianita Jun 2022 #43
Already a Fetterman fan, but last video catapulted me forward Dave says Jun 2022 #92
It doesn't matter...he is the one who can win...and will be fine in the Senate...Jesus consider Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #67
"As long as he wants" is a stretch Polybius Jun 2022 #39
1 month. John Fetterman needs to seriously decide by July then if he is up to the Senate run or JohnSJ Jun 2022 #14
So does the same apply to Chris Van Hollen who is up for re-election in the Senate and had a stroke BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #53
There's a pretty clear difference FBaggins Jun 2022 #58
"There's a pretty clear difference" BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #60
That is untrue...and this is an open seat...which evens the odds. The Republicans are salivating Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #81
All that's "untrue" here is everything in your post FBaggins Jun 2022 #85
He will be back on the campaign trail in July...so? Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #68
so what's the plan if fetterman has to drop out nt msongs Jun 2022 #16
The Pennsylvania Democratic Party has rules I believe to choose a replacement JohnSJ Jun 2022 #20
Stop pushing a winning Democrat out. STOP. ancianita Jun 2022 #23
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Jun 2022 #28
Yes and Yes...he is the candidate so they should knock it off and help not hinder. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #101
thank you for a reasonable rresponse nt msongs Jun 2022 #29
Wrong answer...the correct one is WE LOSE THE SEAT. But I have no worries as Fetterman will Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #82
His doctor says he doesn't have to. And Fetterman says he won't drop out. ancianita Jun 2022 #22
There is no plan because we would lose. Lamb can never win statewide...nor can Kenyetta Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #69
Go Big John! JoeOtterbein Jun 2022 #26
I have idiopathic cardiomyopathy PlanetBev Jun 2022 #36
Also need to add this PlanetBev Jun 2022 #38
how did they find it Skittles Jun 2022 #49
Just a note... brooklynite Jun 2022 #37
I suspect the concern is because how this information was disseminated, and that additional JohnSJ Jun 2022 #46
No, those expressing 'concern' are not from PA and did not support Fetterman in the first place. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #83
Yes and no Polybius Jun 2022 #91
I am sure you hope so...but he is still not dropping out and Lamb will not be the nominee. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #71
I remember a year ago people hated us for posting anti-Cuomo threads in LBN Polybius Jun 2022 #89
My husband had open heart surgery to replace a clogged aortic valve summer_in_TX Jun 2022 #45
In the old days campaigns didn't really start till Labor Day but Raine Jun 2022 #47
He is already running ads and we are about three weeks away from July...which is when he plans to Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #72
LOL, less than 1 month from the initial ER visit Deminpenn Jun 2022 #50
You have to win the election before you can take time off from Senate duties brooklynite Jun 2022 #54
"You have to win the election before you can take time off from Senate duties" BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #57
I have no idea what your first question means. brooklynite Jun 2022 #59
"I have no idea what your first question means." BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #61
Since you live in NY and won't be Deminpenn Jun 2022 #62
Well but there are more competitive races to spend money on don't you know... Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #84
As I said, I didn't post this or several other threads. brooklynite Jun 2022 #95
I live in New York, but this race is of importance to all of us. As I said above, this is one of Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #103
You concern is noted...he will be back in July and will do a great job...and win the seat. I will Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #73
Surgery often requires at least 6 weeks to heal BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #51
You make good points mcar Jun 2022 #55
Did the repukes make a big deal of Van Hollen who had a stroke the same weekend BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #56
Why is this difficult to understand? FBaggins Jun 2022 #87
"Why is this difficult to understand?" BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #93
You can spin that a lack of polling allows you to make assumptions if you like... but... FBaggins Jun 2022 #94
"You can spin that a lack of polling" BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #98
Rs will make a big deal about anything, but Deminpenn Jun 2022 #97
The interesting thing about this is that Fetterman's opponent Deminpenn Jun 2022 #64
Well it seems that Oz has parlayed his medical degree BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #65
It is naive. Republicans are capable of anything. And he will have PACs to do the dirty work. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #75
The meds, imho, are a bigger deal than the surgery Deminpenn Jun 2022 #63
Yeah most - particularly all those people who had to have bypass surgery and/or stents BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #76
The newer blood thinners don't require regular blood testing FBaggins Jun 2022 #90
Pretty sure Gisele will ride herd on him if needed Deminpenn Jun 2022 #96
That is correct...and You live in PA which many of those who express concern do not. I lived Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #74

Akakoji

(139 posts)
5. Rather hear it from her
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:28 PM
Jun 2022

More angry that he didn’t do anything about this years ago. But he’s our guy, very much like millions of men who do the same thing. He’s one of us yo! 🐕 I would like to see her on the trail now though.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
24. Here.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:20 PM
Jun 2022

Fetterman ended his statement saying he was ready to get back to campaigning:

“This race is so important for Pennsylvania and for the country. I’m going to be ready for it, and I can’t wait to get back on the trail.”

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. They Owe It To Constituents To Be Honest
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:26 PM
Jun 2022

is he in or is that wishful thinking? Another candidate will have to step in and it would be a disaster if this is left too late. THis is, as all know, too important to be vague.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
77. It is not an easy pickup...we have lost this seat forever...every six years. But Fetterman can
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:05 PM
Jun 2022

win. I do not believe Lamb would not win statewide...especially against Oz...Lamb's performance in the primary clearly shows this.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
6. Cardiologists should be able to treat those ailments, in a relatively young man, successfully
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:30 PM
Jun 2022

Fetterman is what - 50? 52? Maybe he's in rehab?

And there is his size, which could make treatment more difficult.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
44. I hope he's changed his attitude in this.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:03 AM
Jun 2022

Hell, for his poor wife’s sake, at the very least!

Don’t be a jerk! Take care of yourself, dammit. People you love (and who love you) are counting on it.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
7. This is one of our two best chances to turn an R seat to D. We can't afford to wait till July.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:32 PM
Jun 2022

This is not good.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
52. March 31, 2022
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:16 AM
Jun 2022
https://www.abc27.com/2022-united-states-senate-election-in-pennsylvania/republicans-say-residency-matters-in-pennsylvania-us-senate-race-poll/

And native PA people are wary of carpet baggers.

(but I will say that I am ashamed that we unleashed loons like Newt Gingrich, Orrin Hatch, Ron Paul, and his EVIL SPAWN from the stinking slimy sludge of PA, and into the world )

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
66. Lamb would lose for sure...he couldn't even get Democrats to vote for him statewide so
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 11:22 AM
Jun 2022

Fetterman is the only way we take this seat. I take him at his word.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
70. No. I mean the DNC or another Democratic organization should be stepping in
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 11:31 AM
Jun 2022

and doing events for him until he is able to. His wife, or some spokesperson, or maybe just "get ready, he's coming" kinds of things.

This seat and Johnson's in WI should be bombed with Democratic events and commercials and calls and giveaways. They should both be getting as much money and manpower as they need to do everything they need.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
78. Actually, that is a good point. They could run commercials...and run events with Fetterman showing
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:07 PM
Jun 2022

up but not doing the hard work of creating the events.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
79. No...I have been assured that this seat is not even competitive from somenone who once
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:17 PM
Jun 2022

lived in PA. Of course, I think that is completely untrue and I wholeheartedly agree with you!

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
13. He can stay out as long as he wants. PA knows him and not that guy from Jersey.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:40 PM
Jun 2022

Given the campaign ads on Oz alone, he'll beat himself on his own "health" issues alone.

JohnSJ

(92,136 posts)
15. No he can't. If he is not well enough to assume the duties of a Senator because he is burdened by
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:49 PM
Jun 2022

health issues, that is not how to win elections

The only way he will reassure people is if he comes out himself and speaks to them, not his wife


ancianita

(36,023 posts)
17. Yes, he can. He doesn't have to campaign until August at the earliest.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:57 PM
Jun 2022

Neither of us are campaign managers, and media need their controversy feed, but if PA can give a carpetbagger from New Jersey a break, it can sure as hell give their Lt. Governor a break. PA knows that Oz won't beat Fetterman, even if you think the campaign won't run according to formula.

We're not doctors, either, but the Alzheimers prone Oz is at as high a health risk at 61 as Fetterman is at 52.

This isn't about reassurance. This is about guts and trust in PA Democrats in spite of your FUD and media BS.

JohnSJ

(92,136 posts)
19. Then why doesn't he come out and speak for himself? You do not see that they are causing
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:06 PM
Jun 2022

The FUD by the way this is coming out.

First, a mild stoke, clot removed, pacemaker installed, everything good

Later, add cardiomyopathy

Now, he will be away for a month, “I think so, that’s my hope”

Does that take away any uncertainty?

It isn’t the media it is their campaign that are projecting FUD

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
21. Let him run his campaign his way.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:15 PM
Jun 2022

You fall for media FUD, that's on you. Don't kid yourself that voters of PA will. They won't.

He's already campaigning, in case you haven't noticed. Already "good health" Oz acts like an alzheimer candidate.


LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
30. Ronald Reagan HAD Alzheimer's while in office ....
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:47 PM
Jun 2022

Let's hope Dems and the mostly so-called but not liberal at all corporate media doesn't try to force Fetterman out. I can see Andrea (Past her sell date) Mitchell with show after show saying that for the good of his family and the party, he needs to drop out But hey, what could go wrong if Oz wins that Senate seat? His Mom has Alzheimer's Disease and he supposedly has the genetic markers for it, is fine I guess since he is a GQP'er. If it's good enough for Reagan I mean, that Quack Oz could occupy the seat next to fellow GQP'er Herschel Walker who has a chance to win/steal Rafael Warnock's seat, yet we KNOW something's definitely wrong with Walker. Friends in Georgia tell me that practically NO ONE's telling Walker to drop out, and although none of us are doctors, it doesn't take one to see that he's going through big-time cognitive decline, on top of his multiple personalities, ignorance, russian roulette wheel-playing, woman-abusing and pulling a gun on his ex-wife self. Oh, and being a 'token' for the GQP as my friends down in Georgia tell me on the regular.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
32. Right?
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:56 PM
Jun 2022

You get how sunshine Democrats are. How quick they are to doubt and dump less-than-perfect Democrats.

2022 is the time to get our best Democrats into office, not hand wring worry about how media or opponents will score points against them.

On their worst day, Democrats are infinitely better than Republicans on their best day.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
40. I hear you, but how do we know that Oz WON'T get Alzheimer's while in office if he were a Senator?
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:35 PM
Jun 2022

What I do know is that the GQP will waste no time in trying to push a Fetterman out. I mean good Lord look at Herschel Walker. That guy is in some steep cognitive decline right in our faces, and you don't need to be a doctor to see and hear that, yet if you believe the polling in Georgia, he and Warnock are in a dead heat. I know what Georgia IS--that racist, homophobic, ignorant Greene hails from there and she's in the Congress. Back to Walker, I've heard NO GQP'er telling him to leave. I'm hoping that the so-called Liberal media folks like Andrea Mitchell don't start a drumbeat of telling Fetterman to leave for his family's sake and for the good of the people of Pennsylvania. I haven't watched Mitchell since she went bat-shit crazy over Hillary's imagined email problem, yet Ivanka and her evil mannequin, slum-lord, greedy husband--as did most of those serving under fatso45--were said to be using private email servers/emails like a short-order cook flipping flap jacks. Mitchell didn't say BOO when that came out. Most in this corporate media suck, and most in this so-called liberal media are not liberal at all, but secretly root for Biden's poll numbers to continue to fall, for discord and mayhem to happen during this Biden Administration. It's one thing if Fetterman said himself that he cannot serve. But until or unless that happens I'm hoping that he keeps on pushing if he can. I sure don't want to see another Katie Hill scenario develop in Pa. where she left her seat here in California and was forced out by GQP'ers. The guy who won and replaced her--GQP'er and tRump butt-kisser Mike Garcia is STILL to this day says that Biden is guilty of treason, because he stole the presidency from tRump. Good grief, plus you have Matt pedophile Gaetz still sitting in the Congress and disgusting enablers like Gym treasonous Jordan doing his disgusting, treasonous thing in the Congress as well.

Polybius

(15,385 posts)
42. Because we don't vote on ifs, not even if the guy running will be 89 before November
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:49 PM
Jun 2022

What are the chances that Chuck Grassley finishes out his next term when (not if) he gets re-elected? He'd be 95! I'd be willing to bet that there's a far greater chance of an 89 year old not making it to 95 than Oz getting Alzheimer's by the time he's 67. FAR greater. Yet Grassley will be re-elected in a landslide. I don't like Oz, but I'd have no problem voting for a 61 year old who's mom had Alzheimer's, so long as he or she was a Democrat.

The rest I completely agree with you though. Walker sounds like he has brain damage. I don't think it's his intelligence. Even MTG can put together a sentence (a bad sentence, but still put together lol).

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
48. Re Oz:
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:42 AM
Jun 2022

Fair enough

As for Grassley .....

You know what, I think he's in trouble and will leave even with his landslide win, because he too is up to his hips in Jan. 6th attempted coup. Remember in the beginning he had nerve to say that the election may have been stolen from tRump

But now as more information surfaces .....


Why did Chuck Grassley expect Pence's absence from the Capitol on 6 January?



https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/12/11/2068803/-So-why-did-Chuck-Grassley-expect-Pence-s-absence-from-the-Capitol-on-6-January

And you and I both know His ass is grass would try to stay in office until 100 like that other child probable rapist/racist Dixiecrat Thurmond. Friends in SC tell me that he was on fumes while in the Senate also, in that he'd understandably started to forget who and where he was. He wasn't voting on bills et al. Someone else was it was alleged. The telling sign was him not remembering people he'd known for decades.

He'll win in a landslide as you said, but it's good to know he got some backlash for his love of the gun and of not giving a damn about how many people have to be slaughtered before we get any meaningful gun legislation:

Sen. Chuck Grassley's Iowa Town Hall Heats Up over Inaction on Gun Violence: 'The Answer Is Not to Do Nothing.'

https://people.com/politics/iowa-town-hall-heats-up-over-inaction-on-gun-violence/

Polybius

(15,385 posts)
86. You have a lot more hope than I do
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:53 PM
Jun 2022

Grassley is small potatoes as far as January 6th. I don't believe that a single member of Congress or even Trump will be indited. I'd be happy to be wrong though.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
100. So the same is true with Fetterman...but of course you did support Connor Lamb as I recall.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 03:57 PM
Jun 2022

Do you live in PA...just curious.

Polybius

(15,385 posts)
102. No I didn't
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 11:53 PM
Jun 2022

I said that I didn't want Lamb near the Senate. I'm in NYC.

Basically, we're on the same page, but the only difference is that I worry too much. I'm always concerned about losing.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
25. He has been out since 05/13.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:21 PM
Jun 2022

July makes it two months.

Wife is saying:“It’s still a hiccup,” she said on Monday.

mcar

(42,302 posts)
31. Do you really think Oz and the MSM are going to sit back and wait
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:51 PM
Jun 2022

until August? They are going to define Fetterman.

His campaign lost a lot of time already due to his health concerns. Now they are just shrugging and saying, oh well, he'll be back in July maybe? Actually it's not his campaign, it's his wife. Where TF are his campaign people?

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
34. Of course not. Of course they are not going to define Fetterman for Pennsylvanians who already voted
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:04 PM
Jun 2022

in Fetterman as Lt. Governor. Of course Fetterman is going to recover and keep running.

See? You doubters are your own worst enemy.
If you have to ask where TF are his campaign people, you haven't been paying attention.






"A Democrat with backbone, does the right thing no matter what."


Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
80. +1000000
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jun 2022

He is going to be a great Senator...those who 'worry' supported a different candidate. I was told it was a continuation of 16 politics? Don't see how but who cares. We are going to win and since the ones doing this don't live in PA, they can't vote anyway.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
99. ...
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 02:53 PM
Jun 2022

Thanks. It's good to know this. I'd just add that the FUD here also shows a forgetting or distrust about the blue waves of 2018 and 2020. Doubters need to stop the knee jerk worrying reactions to any & all media hype about Democrats. They need to think, get some spine, really focus from here on out. Because all of us have got to stay mentally and emotionally strong in the face of what will happen in the fall. FUD will be a drag on our party until they see that where they get it from -- it's not from the party.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
41. I would hope that Fetterman himself will start reaching electronically
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:42 PM
Jun 2022

For the last 2 years, many people have become very used to remote learning and even remote religious services. I wonder if his team is rethinking how he could "meet" small or medium size groups of people focused on their concerns and interests.

This would spare him a lot of wear and tear while still getting him in contact with constituents.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
43. What do you mean by "reaching electronically." Like this?
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:52 PM
Jun 2022




Or like this?




Just helping you with your support of him and his team's rethinking.

Dave says

(4,616 posts)
92. Already a Fetterman fan, but last video catapulted me forward
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:16 PM
Jun 2022

John, rest, recover. Then win. Pennsylvania needs you (I don't live in Pennsylvania). The country needs you. You will be a remarkable Senator at a remarkable time in history.



(... hope he reads DU ...)

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
67. It doesn't matter...he is the one who can win...and will be fine in the Senate...Jesus consider
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 11:23 AM
Jun 2022

the health of some of those Senators.

JohnSJ

(92,136 posts)
14. 1 month. John Fetterman needs to seriously decide by July then if he is up to the Senate run or
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:41 PM
Jun 2022

not, so if he decides not to run an appropriate candidate can be chosen by the Pennsylvania Democratic Party ASAP.

The answer of “maybe, and I hope so” is not good enough. If he cannot be ready in one month, we need a new candidate

I feel sorry for the anxiety he must be going through, but it will only get harder from here, and he better be up to it, or drop out

Frankly this doesn’t sound good at all, and I am not sure a one month delay is fair to the voters, or his family. Why isn’t he speaking for himself instead of his wife?


BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
53. So does the same apply to Chris Van Hollen who is up for re-election in the Senate and had a stroke
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:47 AM
Jun 2022
the same weekend as Fetterman , and spent a week in the hospital, and hasn't been heard from on the campaign trail since except on twitter?

Maryland has its primary July 19 and there is a (D) candidate running against him.

Maryland Sen. Van Hollen released from hospital after stroke

By Paul LeBlanc, CNN
Updated 10:42 PM ET, Sun May 22, 2022



Washington (CNN)Sen. Chris Van Hollen said Sunday he's been released from the hospital after suffering a "minor stroke" last week. "It's great to be back home after a long week. I'm grateful for the generous outpouring of support from everyone and the dedicated care I received from the team at GW," the Maryland Democrat tweeted.

The lawmaker was admitted to George Washington University Hospital after he had been "experiencing lightheadedness and acute neck pain" while delivering a speech in his home state, according to a previous statement. He said in the statement at the time he had sought medical help upon returning home at a doctor's recommendation.

Van Hollen, who is up for reelection this year, said his doctors told him "there are no long-term effects or damage as a result of this incident." His hospitalization served as another reminder of Democrats' thin majority in the 50-50 Senate, where they cannot afford to lose any votes.

Democratic Sen. Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico returned to work in March after suffering a stroke earlier this year. Earlier Sunday, Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, the Democratic nominee for the commonwealth's open Senate seat, was released from the hospital nine days after he checked in and was found to have suffered a stroke.

(snip)

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/22/politics/chris-van-hollen-stroke-released-hospital/index.html


Van Hollen ‘Eager’ to Get Back to Work, His Wife Tells Baltimore Political Gathering


By Josh Kurtz
May 16, 2022


Here’s a hopeful sign that U.S. Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), who suffered a mild stroke over the weekend, is on the mend: His wife, Katherine Van Hollen, pinch-hit for him Monday morning at a scheduled public appearance. Other than confessing to being over-caffeinated, she was in good spirits.

The senator was due to speak at a fundraiser in Baltimore for the Maryland Health Care For All Coalition. He’s resting for the next few days after taking ill at the Western Maryland Democratic Summit on Saturday. While Van Hollen was speaking at the summit late Saturday morning, he experienced some light-headedness and felt a pop in the back of his neck.

But it wasn’t apparent to the members of the audience; they thought he was leaning into the podium for dramatic effect during a rousing partisan address. Only hours later, after a visit to George Washington University Hospital in Washington, D.C., did doctors realize that Van Hollen had had a mild stroke.

But the 63-year-old senator is on the mend, his wife reported at the Maryland Health Care For All fundraiser. “Chris is very unhappy and frustrated that he can’t be here in person,” Katherine Van Hollen said. Her husband, she said, was “eager” to get out of the hospital and return to work as quickly as possible, which is likely to happen later this week, according to his office.

(snip)

https://www.marylandmatters.org/2022/05/16/van-hollen-eager-to-get-back-to-work-his-wife-tells-baltimore-political-gathering/


And what about NM (D) Senator Ben Ray Luján who suffered a stroke at the end of January and finally made it back to the Senate in early March. He's even YOUNGER than Fetterman (49 years old) and just got re-elected in 2020.

Sen. Ben Ray Luján: 'Absolute Honor to Be Back' After Stroke

By Associated Press | March 3, 2022, at 5:16 p.m.
U.S. News & World Report


WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic Sen. Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico returned to Congress on Thursday for the first time since he had a stroke, which kept him away from Washington for weeks and temporarily weakened Democrat's hold on power in the equally divided Senate.

Luján received a standing ovation as he entered a morning hearing of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee and was greeted with hugs and fist-bumps from senators later as he stood on the Senate floor during votes.

Teary-eyed, he thanked colleagues at the morning hearing for their support and told them: “It’s an absolute honor to be back.”“Every one of you that sent me notes, that sent videos, and all the prayers -- it worked,” Luján said.

Luján, 49, began experiencing dizziness and fatigue on Jan. 27 and checked himself into a hospital in Santa Fe, New Mexico, his office said. He was diagnosed as having had a stroke in the cerebellum and he had surgery to ease swelling in his brain.

(snip)

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-03-03/sen-ben-ray-lujan-absolute-honor-to-be-back-after-stroke


So do we fucking throw all of our Democrats under the bus unless they are in picture perfect Jack LaLanne health?

DU needs to stop gaslighting our candidates with this bullshit.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
58. There's a pretty clear difference
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 09:09 AM
Jun 2022

One is an incumbent (and 20-year congressman) in a race that would be very difficult to lose in November while the other is trying to take away a red seat in a state that is no guarantee

Call it cynical if you like, but the political calculus is straightforward. If the party believes (for example) that a stroke will cause a 2-3 point loss in support. The "what do we do next?" question is answered differently when that only endangers one of the two races.

had a stroke the same weekend as Fetterman , and spent a week in the hospital, and hasn't been heard from on the campaign trail since


It's also worth noting that Van Hollen is back at work and voting in the Senate while we're currently discussing whether Fetterman can return to the campaign trail in a month. He also didn't get a pacemaker and have a doctor reveal that he had been ignoring critical medical advice for years. They both had a stroke on the same weekend perhaps... but they are not similarly-situated in terms of health concerns going forward.

But the clear difference between the two scenarios is "Tossup" vs. "Solid D"



BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
60. "There's a pretty clear difference"
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 09:57 AM
Jun 2022

No there isn't. It's a "seat" in a 50-50 Senate, where we sit on the edge of "losing control" with the loss of ONE Democrat yet we are here arguing about a seat that we hope BOLSTERS Democrats in the Senate, and are now gaslighting him for some reason.

And be aware that my whole thrust of argument is that there seems to be weighting a "loss of control" of the Senate and associating that with Fetterman, where people forget that the current seat is Teabagger Toomey's seat.

One is an incumbent (and 20-year congressman) in a race that would be very difficult to lose in November while the other is trying to take away a red seat in a state that is no guarantee

Call it cynical if you like, but the political calculus is straightforward. If the party believes (for example) that a stroke will cause a 2-3 point loss in support. The "what do we do next?" question is answered differently when that only endangers one of the two races.


My argument has nothing to do with "support". He has huge support here in PA, particularly among Democrats, to the point of beating Lamb by a 2 - 1 margin. Republicans have still been split on whether they support someone like Oz, to the point where you have RW PACs like Club For Growth who were pumping all their money behind someone (Barnett) NOT Oz, which is why she even came in 3rd in their primary.

had a stroke the same weekend as Fetterman , and spent a week in the hospital, and hasn't been heard from on the campaign trail since

It's also worth noting that Van Hollen is back at work and voting in the Senate while we're currently discussing whether Fetterman can return to the campaign trail in a month. He also didn't get a pacemaker and have a doctor reveal that he had been ignoring critical medical advice for years. They both had a stroke on the same weekend perhaps... but they are not similarly-situated in terms of health concerns going forward.


Is Van Hollen "on the campaign trail" going to every County in the state of MD? He has a primary challenger and the primary is July 17.

PA's primary is DONE. Fetterman went to EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATE OF PA before the primary and before his illness.

And note, I am absolutely NOT against Van Hollen. He has been an incredible Rep. in the House and recently as a Senator. But the point is that why is there this cherry-picking?

You had a 49-year old Senator from NM who was out after his stroke for over a month, and is back but only at "90%". We haven't even given Fetterman that chance, and he is has probably campaigned more than any of these other people since he announced.

We have been told he'll be back on the trail starting in July, and that is when there are many Independence Day celebrations including the annual "Wawa Welcome America" celebration here in Philly, which might make this a good stop considering he has the "Sheetz vs Wawa" thing going.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
81. That is untrue...and this is an open seat...which evens the odds. The Republicans are salivating
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:26 PM
Jun 2022

for Van Hollen's seat...you feel is untrue because like others for some unknown reason you don't seem to support Fetterman which is surprising as he is the Democratic candidate. I would say to all Lamb supporters...Lamb lost the primary by more than thirty points. Why would you think he could win statewide?

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
85. All that's "untrue" here is everything in your post
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:49 PM
Jun 2022

Who says I supported Lamb or oppose Fetterman? I barely know the first thing about Lamb and can only assume that (had I paid attention to the race) I would support a candidate who had already won at the statewide level over someone who represented a single district (and came quite close to losing it in 2020).

The only points I've made (and both are the opposite of "untrue" ) are:

1 - two candidates who both have a mild stroke are not similarly situated if one of them resulted of a more serious underlying heart condition that was not disclosed and was knowingly left untreated for years (and then that candidate also received a pacemaker). Those don't raise the same concerns in the eyes of the voting public.

2 - even if they were similarly situated medically-speaking. Something that might sway a small to moderate number of voters (let's say... 2-3%) is simply a different concern in a race that will probably come down to the wire than it is in a race that we'll win by 20-30%. Van Hollen will also start to hear worried grumblings if there's any concern that he could lose the seat due to a health problem... but he's MUCH farther from such a concern. Not really because his medical condition is less severe (though it does appear to be), but because he has so much more room for error.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
82. Wrong answer...the correct one is WE LOSE THE SEAT. But I have no worries as Fetterman will
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:27 PM
Jun 2022

not be replaced because DC knows he is their best shot.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
22. His doctor says he doesn't have to. And Fetterman says he won't drop out.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:18 PM
Jun 2022

“If he does what I’ve told him, and I do believe that he is taking his recovery and his health very seriously at this time, he should be able to campaign and serve in the U.S. Senate without a problem,” Fetterman’s cardiologist, Dr. Ramesh R Chandra, said.

Dr. Chandra said Fetterman is “well compensated and stable,” and that his defibrillator is “working perfectly.”

Fetterman ended his statement saying he was ready to get back to campaigning:

“This race is so important for Pennsylvania and for the country. I’m going to be ready for it, and I can’t wait to get back on the trail.”

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
69. There is no plan because we would lose. Lamb can never win statewide...nor can Kenyetta
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 11:27 AM
Jun 2022

Any politician that the state pols appoint is going to lose and have always lost. The fact is Fetterman is it...our only chance. People who don't understand PA and have never lived there don't get that. Fetterman is airing new commercials. So perhaps you could relax. I think we got this.

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
26. Go Big John!
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:24 PM
Jun 2022

The dude reminds me of another Big John from folklore of the past:

Wiki

Except, I want him to live for at least another 52 years as our Senator!

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
36. I have idiopathic cardiomyopathy
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:15 PM
Jun 2022

It was discovered quite by accident in late 2017. I was getting a pre-surgery clearance when they diagnosed it. Within a month, I had a defibrillator and went on medication and have never missed a day or doctor’s appointment.

I can’t imagine blowing off any type of health warning. I wonder what he was thinking? 🤔 None of us are immortal.

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
38. Also need to add this
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:20 PM
Jun 2022

I’m 71 and never felt better. No reason why Big John shouldn’t make a full recovery ❤️?🩹

That said, Trump looks like a walking heart attack. I seriously doubt he’s healthy as he tries to appear.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
37. Just a note...
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:18 PM
Jun 2022

I didn't post this. Or the pieces on Friday and Saturday.

Maybe the concern is larger than a handful of people who are supposedly "angry".....

JohnSJ

(92,136 posts)
46. I suspect the concern is because how this information was disseminated, and that additional
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:25 AM
Jun 2022

Manifestations seem to appear every few days

That is not because of the press or those handful of people, but the way the campaign released the information, and that created the concern






Polybius

(15,385 posts)
91. Yes and no
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:01 PM
Jun 2022

I'm in NYC, true. But I'm a little worried and I absolutely love Fetterman. I didn't want Lamb anywhere near the Senate. Honestly though, I always worry with politics. I should be more optimistic.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
71. I am sure you hope so...but he is still not dropping out and Lamb will not be the nominee.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jun 2022

I am thankful for that as he would not win a statewide race...his piss poor performance in the primary clearly shows this. I see most of these 'concern' articles hail from those who do not live in PA nor ever lived in PA and mostly supported a different nominee.

There is a new OP in GD posted by a Pennsylvanian where Fetterman's wife has said he will resume campaigning in July...not far away. He is also running new ads. And if you want to see what it takes to win the rustbelt I suggest you watch a couple. I should add he is running them on Fox too...and there will be a crossover vote.

Polybius

(15,385 posts)
89. I remember a year ago people hated us for posting anti-Cuomo threads in LBN
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:58 PM
Jun 2022

Turns out we were right. While I don't always agree with you, keep doing what you're doing.

summer_in_TX

(2,733 posts)
45. My husband had open heart surgery to replace a clogged aortic valve
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:17 AM
Jun 2022

back in 2014. A year later he had a hip replaced.

In both cases, he dealt with pretty intense pain for about seven weeks. Only then did he begin being able to rehab other than in a minor way. The pain was still there but was less intense.

I don't know what kind of surgery Fetterman had exactly, but I'd expect him to not be ready to be in public for well over seven weeks. Too soon in public and he'd lend evidence to the rumor he wasn't up to it.

I am not worried about Fetterman's absence from the campaign trail. I expect he'll be back at it and do well if given time to heal and get his strength back up.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
47. In the old days campaigns didn't really start till Labor Day but
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:40 AM
Jun 2022

now they often start a year or two before the election. It certainly seems he'll fall behind by getting such a late start.🤔

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
72. He is already running ads and we are about three weeks away from July...which is when he plans to
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 11:37 AM
Jun 2022

resume his campaign... he campaigned in every county during the primary and will be just fine. Watch, he will take some of the GOP vote away from Oz.

Deminpenn

(15,278 posts)
50. LOL, less than 1 month from the initial ER visit
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 04:57 AM
Jun 2022

Senator Ben Ray Lujan missed a month of Senate duty after his uncomplicated minor stroke and no one batted an eye.

A loved one had a pacemaker implanted and was told no strenuous activity for 2 weeks after going home. Fetterman was released on 5/23. Two weeks from that date is 6/7.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
57. "You have to win the election before you can take time off from Senate duties"
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 08:55 AM
Jun 2022

So you have admitted that he "won" and is a sitting Senator?

Does that apply to Van Hollen who is up for re-election?

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
59. I have no idea what your first question means.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 09:53 AM
Jun 2022

As for your second, Van Hollen's health might have been an issue if it took him off the campaign trail (it didn't) and if he had serious competition (he doesn't). Meanwhile Fetterman IS off the campaign trail for the next month, and he has a well-funded, well-know opponent.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
61. "I have no idea what your first question means."
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 10:36 AM
Jun 2022

It was taken from your own post that was a reply to Deminpenn as some kind of allusion to something about "being elected" ?

As for your second, Van Hollen's health might have been an issue if it took him off the campaign trail (it didn't)


When was the last time he was at a campaign event (hint I looked)? I saw something announced as a "Kick-Off" to occur in Frederick, MD that had a bunch of "TBD"s on it for the end of the month -



and if he had serious competition (he doesn't).


Yet you thought that Lamb was "serious competition" against Fetterman and also thought that Summer Lee didn't have a chance against Steve Irwin in the new PA-12... Yet here we are. So methinks the Magic 8-ball needs a replacement.

Meanwhile Fetterman IS off the campaign trail for the next month, and he has a well-funded, well-know opponent.


How is it "the next month"? Today is June 7 and all that was announced was that he would get going in July. July is what? 3 weeks from now? When is Van Hollen STARTING? At the end of this month.

And Oz is a fucking carpet-bagger loon who is a resident of NJ. I have been sending $$ to Fetterman's campaign and he raised almost $2 million the day after his primary win.

I see there's a lot of the below going on here.

Deminpenn

(15,278 posts)
62. Since you live in NY and won't be
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 10:42 AM
Jun 2022

contributing to Fetterman's campaign, perhaps a better use of your time would be to help your preferred candidates and not continue to post your "concerns" to those of us who will be voting in Pennsylvania in Novmember.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
95. As I said, I didn't post this or several other threads.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 02:03 PM
Jun 2022

Perhaps you should express your concerns to others.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
103. I live in New York, but this race is of importance to all of us. As I said above, this is one of
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 08:00 AM
Jun 2022

our two best opportunities to pick up a Senate seat. We should ALL be watching this race and the race for Johnson's seat in WI. AND doing everything we can to make sure Fetterman and the winner of the D Wisconsin primary win.

I really hope the DNC or the DCCC or someone like that understands this and steps in to place hold for Fetterman - running ads, running events, keeping his name circulating - till he is able to campaign. If they don't, they are morons.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
73. You concern is noted...he will be back in July and will do a great job...and win the seat. I will
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 11:38 AM
Jun 2022

be very interested in the list you gave of those races you consider winnable and how it shakes out...damn I hope you are right about the races you consider competitive. You are of course wrong about PA which is very competitive

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
51. Surgery often requires at least 6 weeks to heal
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:01 AM
Jun 2022

and I expect in his case, they would need to adjust his meds and get him into a new lifestyle routine that is probably a bit different from what he was doing previously.

And as a note - Fetterman had not only been to all 67 counties in the state before this happened, but before he even announced this current run, he had previously been to all 67 on a "listening tour" when he was getting an idea on how the electorate felt about legalizing marijuana.

And he is so dynamic and prolific on social media, that he doesn't have to "be here" to talk about his policy preferences, nor try to underscore his affability. It just comes naturally.

This 3rd summer of COVID is when apparently people "have had enough" and planned to go hog wild to enjoy themselves and they sure as hell aren't going to be paying attention to "politics". Once the J6 Hearings are done, I expect Congress will be having an early rest of the summer off as well because it's an election year, and they have to campaign as well, and their last big push will be in the fall.

mcar

(42,302 posts)
55. You make good points
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 08:24 AM
Jun 2022

I just really worry about what the media will do with this - with Rs pushing them. And, I do feel he needs a stronger response from his team, not just his wife.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
56. Did the repukes make a big deal of Van Hollen who had a stroke the same weekend
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 08:49 AM
Jun 2022

and is also up for re-election. I know they are chomping at the bits in MD as that seat has always been competitive given the sometime "swingy" nature of MD - which currently has a GOP governor who decided not to run for it, but easily could have.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2926834

Van Hollen's wife was out on the trail on his behalf in Baltimore after that happened last month -



We can't let the GOP define us and what we can and can't do. Why do their work for them?

Our issues are gun control, women's reproductive rights, voting rights, climate change, and clean energy, among other policies, and we need to stick to that and pound it home.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
87. Why is this difficult to understand?
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:55 PM
Jun 2022

Republicans aren't going to "make a big deal" out of an issue that might only sway a few percentage points in a race that they're going to lose by 30%... but they will highlight that same issue much closer race.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
93. "Why is this difficult to understand?"
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:49 PM
Jun 2022
Republicans aren't going to "make a big deal" out of an issue that might only sway a few percentage points in a race that they're going to lose by 30%... but they will highlight that same issue much closer race.


Have you seen any polls since the primary was supposedly decided in terms of a concession by McCormick (although the official counts aren't sue to be completed and reported until tomorrow)?

It's pretty sad that as crazy as this state has become recently, that some are convinced that the same people who voted for Biden are going to vote for Oz?

And let me ask you a question - do you know why Rick Santorum lost his seat by 18% to Bob Casey, Jr. in 2006? Hint - it has a lot to do with what Oz is going to have a problem with.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
94. You can spin that a lack of polling allows you to make assumptions if you like... but...
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 02:00 PM
Jun 2022

The simple fact is that PA is rated as a tossup by essentially every expert... while MD is simultaneously rated as a safe seat.

It is, therefore, no surprise that even the same potential issue is of more concern in the first race than in the second.

some are convinced that the same people who voted for Biden are going to vote for Oz?

Can you truthfully say that you didn't make the same assumption about Youngkin in VA?

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
98. "You can spin that a lack of polling"
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 02:43 PM
Jun 2022

No, everyone else has "spun" my pointing out the hypocrisy of suddenly hand-wringing about a candidate for a seat that is currently a REPUBLICAN SEAT due to perceived "health issues" where if he actually LOST, then it would make no damn difference to the CURRENT make up of the Senate as 50 - 50.

But if candidates like Van Hollen and current sitting (D) members like Lujan, Leahy, and Feinstein, among others, have a "health episode", we could immediately LOSE CONTROL OF THE SENATE. Not in 2021 but right now.

The simple fact is that PA is rated as a tossup by essentially every expert... while MD is simultaneously rated as a safe seat.


And again, THAT was not my point. See above.

It is, therefore, no surprise that even the same potential issue is of more concern in the first race than in the second.

some are convinced that the same people who voted for Biden are going to vote for Oz?

Can you truthfully say that you didn't make the same assumption about Youngkin in VA?


I live here in PA and was not only born and raised here but am multi-generational, and PA is not VA, which is THE SOUTH and a former slave state with the fucking Capital of the Confederacy that after a century, has finally come to a reckoning with their entrenched glorification of their racist history and past.

What is happening right now with respect to elections here in PA in terms of "modern politics" offers a very unique opportunity, yet what I see on DU is the same old thing that I saw manifest when I first got here - trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It's the same crap that happened with Obama here both in 2008 and 2012.

Deminpenn

(15,278 posts)
97. Rs will make a big deal about anything, but
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 02:37 PM
Jun 2022

they might not be spending a lot of money on Van Holland's opponent and therefore won't be making a "big deal" out of any issue.

Deminpenn

(15,278 posts)
64. The interesting thing about this is that Fetterman's opponent
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 11:02 AM
Jun 2022

is a well-respected heart surgeon and well-versed in cardiac care whatever one may think of the subjects and claims made on his TV show. Maybe it's naive, but I just don't think he would allow his campaign to lie or imply things that he knows aren't true about Fetterman's condition.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
65. Well it seems that Oz has parlayed his medical degree
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 11:11 AM
Jun 2022

into quite a bit of woo too, but I suppose it depends on how much he really wants this seat and if he decides to "go there".

And this is also because as was noted regarding McCormick's sudden concession, there is another PA seat up (Casey's) in 2 years (which would be during a higher-turnout Presidential election cycle and more chance to flip that seat, that used to be Frothy's seat), and Casey isn't nor ever has been as "populist" or "bombastic" as a Fetterman. In fact he's just the opposite.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
75. It is naive. Republicans are capable of anything. And he will have PACs to do the dirty work.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 11:59 AM
Jun 2022

I don't believe it will work.

Deminpenn

(15,278 posts)
63. The meds, imho, are a bigger deal than the surgery
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 10:56 AM
Jun 2022

I have no idea what meds he's been prescribed although I'd assume a blood thinner, which requires regular blood testing, is one of them. It's small, but there's a subset of people who do not tolerate meds well at all. See below.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/19/well/live/are-some-people-more-sensitive-to-drug-side-effects.html

Variations in metabolism, however, can be particularly important with drugs that have a narrow margin of safety. Examples include excessive bleeding with the blood thinner warfarin; increased sensitivity to the beta-blocker drug propranolol, which lowers blood pressure; and the antiplatelet drug clopidogrel, which is commonly given to prevent blood clots before and after angioplasty. With the painkiller codeine, a rare genetic variation has led to respiratory depression and death.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
76. Yeah most - particularly all those people who had to have bypass surgery and/or stents
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:04 PM
Jun 2022

and put on Warfarin, although I know many hate it and there may be some similar alternates.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
90. The newer blood thinners don't require regular blood testing
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:00 PM
Jun 2022

I don't think it's likely that they put him on warfarin (which does). I think that's mostly still an option because it's so much cheaper than the new alternatives (that can be several hundred dollars per month). Doctors have different preferences depending on the specifics (and whether he tolerates them), but my guess is that eliquis or xarelto are far more likely.

The "bigger deal" is his past history of ignoring the problem and not taking his meds (or seeing a doctor). Hopefully - he's scared back to his senses and will take it seriously.

Deminpenn

(15,278 posts)
96. Pretty sure Gisele will ride herd on him if needed
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 02:34 PM
Jun 2022


But I don't think she'll need to do that. The Fetterman's have a young family and he is not so callous as to ignore his health again and leave them fatherless.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
74. That is correct...and You live in PA which many of those who express concern do not. I lived
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 11:55 AM
Jun 2022

there for years and am sad I live in Ohio now. I would have loved to vote for Fetterman...perhaps I will...in some years vote for him for president! Fetterman is going to be a Democratic rockstar...I believe he will be very influential and shows us a path back to winning the rustbelt and helping an entire region that for too long has been ignored.

My husband worked as a quality engineer in Big Auto for thirty years and every plant...all of them closed at some point and we moved on to the next plant. Not one plant my husband worked in remains open today. And every one of those communities was devastated. It is inexcusable that we allowed the few to get rich while destroying God knows how many people's lives with bad global deals (Fetterman references such deals in commercials now being shown on Fox and elsewhere).

No Democrat should ever support any new TPP-type trade agreement if they want to continue to win in the rustbelt. This agreement allowed countries that permitted slavery to join which is truly despicable. We need to make our own stuff...from chips to autos and everything in between. It is a national security issue IMHO. It was through manufacturing that the middle class was born and its slow death has all but destroyed the middle class.
Thanks for posting this Fetterman article...the commercials were exactly on point! 👍👍👍

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216771917

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