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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,711 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 12:28 PM Jun 2022

Supreme Court shields border agents from lawsuits over excessive force

Source: LA Times

The Supreme Court on Wednesday shielded federal border patrol agents from being sued over allegations of unreasonable searches and the use of excessive force.

In a 6-3 decision, the court's conservatives said that in nearly all instances federal agents may be not held liable for violating constitutional rights unless Congress has authorized such lawsuits for damages.

"Our cases have made clear that, in all but the most unusual circumstances, prescribing a cause of action is a job for Congress, not the courts," wrote Justice Clarence Thomas for the court in the majority opinion.

While the Constitution sets out the rights of individuals against the government — including protection "against unreasonable searches and seizures" — it did not say how those rights were to be enforced.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-shields-border-agents-from-lawsuits-over-excessive-force/ar-AAYdvle



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Supreme Court shields border agents from lawsuits over excessive force (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 OP
SCOTUS wants to support the fascist country the GOP wants. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2022 #1
that's becoming all too clear... bahboo Jun 2022 #2
Yep, give it just a little more time and the US will truly be a police state, the GOP dream. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2022 #3
Interracial marriage, birth control, Gay rights. And this could have ALL been avoided Eliot Rosewater Jun 2022 #10
Absolutely!!! The best candidate for president was trashed. It would be so different today!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2022 #13
Definitely the 'pseudo-dem' Hillary bashers... Wuddles440 Jun 2022 #19
Which shows how truly ignorant those voters were from the beginning - willfully or otherwise SouthernDem4ever Jun 2022 #22
FFS atreides1 Jun 2022 #4
Supreme Court limits excessive force claims against Border Patrol agents mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2022 #5
It has stuck with me quakerboy Jun 2022 #6
FYI - In Florida the governor (DeSantis) is building up his private army of 400 to supposedly police RKP5637 Jun 2022 #14
Perfect timing...backing up another article DENVERPOPS Jun 2022 #7
Thanks for this link pandr32 Jun 2022 #9
Predictable from this court. sinkingfeeling Jun 2022 #8
clarence llashram Jun 2022 #11
This has actually been standard practice for federal employees BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #12
On the same day that the public is Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #15
Here is the opinion melm00se Jun 2022 #16
The Biden administration meeds to revise the rules of employment for border patrol agents. Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #17
Kickin' with disgust! Faux pas Jun 2022 #18
Nobody is above the law? bluestarone Jun 2022 #20
The court is following in the footsteps of El Caudillo Franco I see. Dawson Leery Jun 2022 #21
Yet they demand protection 24/7... 2naSalit Jun 2022 #23
Court constricts, even if it does not quite eliminate, damages actions under Bivens mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2022 #24
Apparently, the thinking is: if we can't abuse migrants and refugees, who can we abuse? Magoo48 Jun 2022 #25

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
10. Interracial marriage, birth control, Gay rights. And this could have ALL been avoided
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 12:49 PM
Jun 2022

if a certain group would have just NOT bashed our 2016 candidate.

Wuddles440

(1,118 posts)
19. Definitely the 'pseudo-dem' Hillary bashers...
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 04:59 PM
Jun 2022

were a significant factor, but I think she still would have managed to pull out a win if it hadn't been for Comey's comments days before the election. That act severely tarnished her reputation with undecided and independent voters.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
22. Which shows how truly ignorant those voters were from the beginning - willfully or otherwise
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 06:12 AM
Jun 2022

If all it took was a transparently stupid propaganda campaign to push a crooked grifter into the white house, our country has bigger problems than just Hillary's emails.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,284 posts)
5. Supreme Court limits excessive force claims against Border Patrol agents
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 12:40 PM
Jun 2022
Supreme Court limits excessive force claims against Border Patrol agents

By Tierney Sneed and Ariane de Vogue, CNN

Updated 11:17 AM ET, Wed June 8, 2022

(CNN) -- The Supreme Court said Wednesday that a Border Patrol agent in Washington state cannot be personally sued in federal court for damages after a private citizen brought claims of illegal retaliation and excessive force. ... The decision continues a recent trend of the high court cutting back on the ability of individuals to sue law enforcement officers who violate their constitutional rights when there is no specific law authorizing such a claim to go forward.

The ruling expands federal officers' immunity from private lawsuits and reverses a lower court opinion that allowed the lawsuit to go forward. Lawyers for the Border Patrol agent argued that the threat of liability would interfere with his job duties.

The court said 9-0 that the Border Patrol agent could not face a lawsuit under a First Amendment claim of retaliation. The court also said that the agent could not face a lawsuit under the Fourth Amendment for an alleged excessive use of force, with the court's three liberal justices dissenting.

{snip}

The case was brought by Robert Boule, a US citizen who owned a bed and breakfast near the Canadian border in Washington. Boule had filed a lawsuit against Customs and Border Patrol Agent Erik Egbert, after a 2014 encounter at Boule's inn during which Egbert allegedly used excessive force against Boule. Boule also alleged that Egbert engaged in retaliation against Boule after Boule reported injuries from the encounter to Egbert's supervisors.

{snip}

SUPREME COURT

SCOTUS Just Made It Even Harder To Sue an Abusive Federal Agent

The Supreme Court continues to shield federal officers who are accused of violating constitutional rights.

DAMON ROOT | 6.8.2022 12:20 PM

A series of recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions have made it practically impossible to sue a federal officer over an alleged constitutional rights violation. In a 6-3 ruling released today, the Court doubled down on this regrettable trend.

The case is Egbert v. Boule. At issue were the actions of a border patrol agent who sought to question one of the guests at a Washington state bed-and-breakfast about the guest's immigration status. When owner Robert Boule told the agent, Erik Egbert, to leave his property, Egbert allegedly assaulted Boule. Then, when Boule complained about the alleged assault to the agent's superiors, Egbert allegedly retaliated by asking the IRS to investigate Boule, who was audited. Boule sued Egbert for violating his Fourth Amendment rights (the assault) and his First Amendment rights (the retaliation against Boule's complaint).

In Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics (1971), the Supreme Court allowed federal officers to be sued in federal court for alleged Fourth Amendment violations. Unfortunately, the Court has since narrowed Bivens to point of practically overruling it. Today's decision in Egbert v. Boule has shriveled Bivens even further.

{snip}

quakerboy

(13,915 posts)
6. It has stuck with me
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 12:41 PM
Jun 2022

that Trump used Border Patrol and ICE as his private army to attack and detain US citizens hundreds of miles from any border.

RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
14. FYI - In Florida the governor (DeSantis) is building up his private army of 400 to supposedly police
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jun 2022

elections, he says they are so corrupt, but that is NOT true. One can be sure it will be used as a police state.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
11. clarence
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 12:52 PM
Jun 2022

was awakened and told he's been in the news, along with his lifemate. Ginni wrote this for the majority slowly eroding our rights. He's snoring on the bench again. This tool, his wife's tool, is a slap in the face as to who he replaced. A very cynical appointment by another repthug-POTUS. All I remember is something about soft drinks and pubic hair? How Anita Hill was lambasted over this charge against thomas and the sad part is, given his track record since then, I believed her then and I still believe even more today.

God how I hate how low politics and rule of law have sunk in this country since trump was installed by his BFF, Puukin. We must stomp them into the dust in the November elections. None of this mid-term malaise BS.

BumRushDaShow

(128,388 posts)
12. This has actually been standard practice for federal employees
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 12:54 PM
Jun 2022

I.e., you can't sue them "individually", and then "the government" (the agency and Congress) have to "agree" to be sued for damages, and if that happens, then Congress has to go the next step to budget for those damages AND fund them.

Baitball Blogger

(46,676 posts)
15. On the same day that the public is
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:12 PM
Jun 2022

Screaming for accountability for our police departments, the conservative Supreme Court works to create an army of goons and bullies.

Scalia’s ghost is alive in the Supreme Court.

melm00se

(4,984 posts)
16. Here is the opinion
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:31 PM
Jun 2022
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-147_g31h.pdf

Robert Boule, from what was written in the ruling, sounds a little weird:

Boule at times helped federal agents identify and apprehend persons engaged in unlawful cross-border activity on or near his property. But Boule also would provide transportation and lodging to illegal border crossers. Often, Boule would agree to help illegal border crossers enter or exit the United States, only to later call federal agents to report the unlawful activity.



Federal agents also have seized from the Inn shipments of cocaine, methamphetamine, ecstasy, and other narcotics.


Like I said: Boule sounds like a really weird guy and a piece of work.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
17. The Biden administration meeds to revise the rules of employment for border patrol agents.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 02:43 PM
Jun 2022

That should be within the purview of DHS. Any border patrol agent accused of excessive force will be investigated and fired if found guilty.

Since the SC seems to think the anyone in any law enforcement capacity has the right to treat people savagely with impunity, government organizations need to change the terms of employment. This would not address the issue of lawsuits, but it might get the worst offenders off the job.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,284 posts)
24. Court constricts, even if it does not quite eliminate, damages actions under Bivens
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 07:37 AM
Jun 2022
OPINION ANALYSIS

Court constricts, even if it does not quite eliminate, damages actions under Bivens

By Howard M. Wasserman on June 8 at 9:42 p.m.

In an opinion by Justice Clarence Thomas, the court ruled against an innkeeper who tried to sue a U.S. Border Patrol agent for alleged violations of the First and Fourth Amendments.

{snip}

Magoo48

(4,697 posts)
25. Apparently, the thinking is: if we can't abuse migrants and refugees, who can we abuse?
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:12 AM
Jun 2022

The SC is a vestigial, dangerous malignant tumor in its present structure.

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