Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

BumRushDaShow

(129,784 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 07:39 PM Jun 2022

House passes tough new gun measures hours after wrenching testimony

Source: Washington Post

The House on Wednesday endorsed some of the most aggressive gun-control measures taken up on Capitol Hill in years — including raising the minimum age for the purchase of most semiautomatic rifles to 21 and banning high-capacity ammunition magazines — as Washington seeks to mount a tough response to recent high-profile mass shootings.The 223-to-204 vote took place just hours after a House committee heard searing testimony from a young survivor of the May 24 shooting in Uvalde, Tex., as well as the parents of a victim and a pediatrician who responded to the tragedy that left 19 fourth-graders and two teachers dead.

Five Republicans joined most Democrats in backing the legislation. Two Democrats voted “no.” “Somewhere out there, there is a mom listening to our testimony thinking, ‘I can’t even imagine their pain,’ not knowing that our reality will one day be hers, unless we act now,” said Kimberly Rubio, the mother of 10-year-old Lexi Rubio, who was killed in the attack. The House vote, however, will amount to little more than a political messaging exercise because of firm Republican opposition to substantial new gun restrictions.

That has left hopes for a bipartisan deal that could be signed into law in the hands of a small group of senators who are exploring much more modest changes to federal gun laws. Those talks continued Wednesday in hopes of sealing a deal in the coming days.Still, Democrats said this week’s House votes were necessary to show Americans that more can be done to prevent not only mass-casualty incidents such as the killings last month in Buffalo and Uvalde, but the hundreds of less deadly mass shootings and everyday incidents of gun violence that have long scourged America.

“Even if our Senate colleagues do not take up these exact bills, I will tell you what this process we are going through will absolutely do and why our efforts here are worthwhile: This process will unequivocally show where each and every one of us stand in the wake of this unspeakable tragedy,” said Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), adding that the votes would send a clear message to the Senate negotiators. Republicans attacked the bills as an unserious, partisan effort that would infringe on Americans’ constitutional rights. At a news conference Wednesday, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) called them an effort “to destroy the Second Amendment.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/08/house-gun-legislation/

29 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
House passes tough new gun measures hours after wrenching testimony (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 OP
Getting discouraged snowybirdie Jun 2022 #1
Passage of similar legislation will happen several subsequent times bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #2
204 congressmen, including 2 Democrats voted against this legislation. patphil Jun 2022 #3
Republicans love money and power. They're the Murder Party. paleotn Jun 2022 #5
Elissa Slotkin cannabis_flower Jun 2022 #8
Ugh. paleotn Jun 2022 #9
Detroit News said she ultimately voted for the Bill Raven123 Jun 2022 #12
Let's Rebl2 Jun 2022 #11
"They're the Murder Party." Well their sure as hell are not the pro life one. cstanleytech Jun 2022 #14
Good PR but the result will be nothing... JT45242 Jun 2022 #4
In my mind, Dems win either way. paleotn Jun 2022 #6
Then the republican pos get voted out rockfordfile Jun 2022 #17
Let's use this issue to beat GOP senators this November IronLionZion Jun 2022 #7
I went and looked at the vote. cannabis_flower Jun 2022 #10
Here is the link to the roll call (different one) BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #20
204 voted their support in allowing the murder of children to continue it seems. cstanleytech Jun 2022 #13
raising the minimum age for the purchase of most semiautomatic rifles to 21 Aussie105 Jun 2022 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #16
Any mention of red flag laws? KS Toronado Jun 2022 #18
The Senate negotiators were supposedly looking at that BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #22
Here's the 7 who didn't vote with their party KS Toronado Jun 2022 #19
Roll call link BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #21
These Reps all knew the House bill would pass FakeNoose Jun 2022 #24
I agree KS Toronado Jun 2022 #25
As long as there Icanthinkformyself Jun 2022 #23
Whoa, increase the age farther into MID ADOLESCENCE for buying semiautomatics? Hortensis Jun 2022 #26
Maybe there is a slight chance of passage..Maybe..as said earlier .."Anything can happen" Stuart G Jun 2022 #27
:) You're right, for good and bad. And future always begins now. Hortensis Jun 2022 #28
Kick ck4829 Jun 2022 #29

patphil

(6,235 posts)
3. 204 congressmen, including 2 Democrats voted against this legislation.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 08:15 PM
Jun 2022

I know it passed, but goddam, what has to happen to get some sort of consensus?
The vote shouldn't have been this close.

paleotn

(17,990 posts)
5. Republicans love money and power. They're the Murder Party.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 08:21 PM
Jun 2022

The 2 Dems who voted no....let me guess. Jared Golden - Maine (D - Tater District). Now, who's the other worthless piece of shit?

Raven123

(4,898 posts)
12. Detroit News said she ultimately voted for the Bill
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 08:56 PM
Jun 2022

Voted no on an earlier motion, as her Bill was incorporated into a larger Bill. She wanted it to be voted on separately.

JT45242

(2,310 posts)
4. Good PR but the result will be nothing...
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 08:17 PM
Jun 2022

The rethugs in the Senate who are acting like there can be compromise are lying. ... two scenarios

1) The Rethug senator swill claim that they are not listened to and there is no bipartisanship and walk away from negotiations (like one of the last ties they pulled this stunt)

2) They will stall and any bill in the Senate will die with a filibuster vote that will go close to party line votes. Even some of the negotiators on the Rethug side will have a change of heart and vote against it.


Please Chuck, just put this bill to a vote on the Senate -- even if the Rethigs kill it with a filibuster you can get them on record.

IronLionZion

(45,591 posts)
7. Let's use this issue to beat GOP senators this November
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 08:21 PM
Jun 2022

if inflation comes down, they have nothing. I'm hoping the balance has shifted on support for better gun regulations

Aussie105

(5,463 posts)
15. raising the minimum age for the purchase of most semiautomatic rifles to 21
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 10:06 PM
Jun 2022

Minimum age 21?
How about 121?

“to destroy the Second Amendment.”

Yes please, destroy it!
Delete if from the Constitution!

You will hear loud applause from those thousands killed by the second amendment!

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

KS Toronado

(17,396 posts)
18. Any mention of red flag laws?
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 01:23 AM
Jun 2022

repugs keep saying it's a mental health problem, red flags would address that.

BumRushDaShow

(129,784 posts)
22. The Senate negotiators were supposedly looking at that
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 05:57 AM
Jun 2022

although last I read, it might have been whittled down to "let the states do that" (which we know will not happen).

At this point, all we can do is start going below the belt with ads - literally show a hapless woman held hostage by the GOP popping out a forced-birth baby so the yahoo gun humpers can skeet-shoot it with their AR-15.

KS Toronado

(17,396 posts)
19. Here's the 7 who didn't vote with their party
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 01:39 AM
Jun 2022

Vote District.... Party Representative
Yea.. IL 16th..... R.. Kinzinger, Adam
Nay.. ME 2nd.... D.. Golden, Jared
Yea.. MI 6th..... R.. Upton, Fred
Yea.. NY 27th... R.. Jacobs, Chris
Yea.. OH 16th... R.. Gonzalez, Anthony
Nay.. OR 5th..... D .. Schrader, Kurt
Yea.. PA 1st..... R.. Fitzpatrick, Brian

FakeNoose

(32,839 posts)
24. These Reps all knew the House bill would pass
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:20 AM
Jun 2022

It doesn't matter that they abandoned their Party voting, because they all knew it would pass anyway. Oftentimes the black sheep voters know they have to answer to constituents back home, or they've got a big donor that's asking for something in particular.

The House of Representatives can pass these bills and then watch them get stuck in the Senate, or else it looks like swiss cheese from all the things that the Senate does to it before they'll approve it. The problem is always the Senate.

Icanthinkformyself

(222 posts)
23. As long as there
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 07:40 AM
Jun 2022

are gun fetishist in Congress nothing will be done. A very small, but powerful, 'bi-partisan' group control the issue. They will dance around and stall, hem and haw, harrumph and whine. But, to do the correct thing requires a new crop of humans in Congress.
I don't think it would be a bad thing to 'destroy' the 2nd Amendment.
Modern humans: space age technology; cave age mentality.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Whoa, increase the age farther into MID ADOLESCENCE for buying semiautomatics?
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:25 AM
Jun 2022

This is what we're calling "tough" these days, and even this has no chance of becoming law at this time.

Some day.

Stuart G

(38,454 posts)
27. Maybe there is a slight chance of passage..Maybe..as said earlier .."Anything can happen"
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:43 AM
Jun 2022

Wait a moment....Do we have a woman Vice President?.-.someone named "Harris"? How is that possible?
Wait a moment....Did we have an Afro-American as President of the U.S.?...Was he reelected?..Is that correct?

Then anything is possible? Ain't it...Was an idiot named Trump elected President of the United States?

..............................That proves it EVEN MORE:........Anything is possible!!!

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»House passes tough new gu...