House passes tough new gun measures hours after wrenching testimony
Source: Washington Post
The House on Wednesday endorsed some of the most aggressive gun-control measures taken up on Capitol Hill in years including raising the minimum age for the purchase of most semiautomatic rifles to 21 and banning high-capacity ammunition magazines as Washington seeks to mount a tough response to recent high-profile mass shootings.The 223-to-204 vote took place just hours after a House committee heard searing testimony from a young survivor of the May 24 shooting in Uvalde, Tex., as well as the parents of a victim and a pediatrician who responded to the tragedy that left 19 fourth-graders and two teachers dead.
Five Republicans joined most Democrats in backing the legislation. Two Democrats voted no. Somewhere out there, there is a mom listening to our testimony thinking, I cant even imagine their pain, not knowing that our reality will one day be hers, unless we act now, said Kimberly Rubio, the mother of 10-year-old Lexi Rubio, who was killed in the attack. The House vote, however, will amount to little more than a political messaging exercise because of firm Republican opposition to substantial new gun restrictions.
That has left hopes for a bipartisan deal that could be signed into law in the hands of a small group of senators who are exploring much more modest changes to federal gun laws. Those talks continued Wednesday in hopes of sealing a deal in the coming days.Still, Democrats said this weeks House votes were necessary to show Americans that more can be done to prevent not only mass-casualty incidents such as the killings last month in Buffalo and Uvalde, but the hundreds of less deadly mass shootings and everyday incidents of gun violence that have long scourged America.
Even if our Senate colleagues do not take up these exact bills, I will tell you what this process we are going through will absolutely do and why our efforts here are worthwhile: This process will unequivocally show where each and every one of us stand in the wake of this unspeakable tragedy, said Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), adding that the votes would send a clear message to the Senate negotiators. Republicans attacked the bills as an unserious, partisan effort that would infringe on Americans constitutional rights. At a news conference Wednesday, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) called them an effort to destroy the Second Amendment.
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snowybirdie
(5,246 posts)Senate will bury it and nothing will be done. They don't care!
bucolic_frolic
(43,414 posts)The problem won't go away by itself.
patphil
(6,235 posts)I know it passed, but goddam, what has to happen to get some sort of consensus?
The vote shouldn't have been this close.
paleotn
(17,990 posts)The 2 Dems who voted no....let me guess. Jared Golden - Maine (D - Tater District). Now, who's the other worthless piece of shit?
cannabis_flower
(3,768 posts)Michigan
paleotn
(17,990 posts)Raven123
(4,898 posts)Voted no on an earlier motion, as her Bill was incorporated into a larger Bill. She wanted it to be voted on separately.
start calling them that. Republicans. The murder party.
cstanleytech
(26,341 posts)JT45242
(2,310 posts)The rethugs in the Senate who are acting like there can be compromise are lying. ... two scenarios
1) The Rethug senator swill claim that they are not listened to and there is no bipartisanship and walk away from negotiations (like one of the last ties they pulled this stunt)
2) They will stall and any bill in the Senate will die with a filibuster vote that will go close to party line votes. Even some of the negotiators on the Rethug side will have a change of heart and vote against it.
Please Chuck, just put this bill to a vote on the Senate -- even if the Rethigs kill it with a filibuster you can get them on record.
paleotn
(17,990 posts)rockfordfile
(8,708 posts)IronLionZion
(45,591 posts)if inflation comes down, they have nothing. I'm hoping the balance has shifted on support for better gun regulations
cannabis_flower
(3,768 posts)I didnt see that any Republicans voted for it. Five didnt vote.
Is this the one:
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2022236
BumRushDaShow
(129,784 posts)cstanleytech
(26,341 posts)Aussie105
(5,463 posts)Minimum age 21?
How about 121?
to destroy the Second Amendment.
Yes please, destroy it!
Delete if from the Constitution!
You will hear loud applause from those thousands killed by the second amendment!
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KS Toronado
(17,396 posts)repugs keep saying it's a mental health problem, red flags would address that.
BumRushDaShow
(129,784 posts)although last I read, it might have been whittled down to "let the states do that" (which we know will not happen).
At this point, all we can do is start going below the belt with ads - literally show a hapless woman held hostage by the GOP popping out a forced-birth baby so the yahoo gun humpers can skeet-shoot it with their AR-15.
KS Toronado
(17,396 posts)Vote District.... Party Representative
Yea.. IL 16th..... R.. Kinzinger, Adam
Nay.. ME 2nd.... D.. Golden, Jared
Yea.. MI 6th..... R.. Upton, Fred
Yea.. NY 27th... R.. Jacobs, Chris
Yea.. OH 16th... R.. Gonzalez, Anthony
Nay.. OR 5th..... D .. Schrader, Kurt
Yea.. PA 1st..... R.. Fitzpatrick, Brian
BumRushDaShow
(129,784 posts)FakeNoose
(32,839 posts)It doesn't matter that they abandoned their Party voting, because they all knew it would pass anyway. Oftentimes the black sheep voters know they have to answer to constituents back home, or they've got a big donor that's asking for something in particular.
The House of Representatives can pass these bills and then watch them get stuck in the Senate, or else it looks like swiss cheese from all the things that the Senate does to it before they'll approve it. The problem is always the Senate.
KS Toronado
(17,396 posts)Icanthinkformyself
(222 posts)are gun fetishist in Congress nothing will be done. A very small, but powerful, 'bi-partisan' group control the issue. They will dance around and stall, hem and haw, harrumph and whine. But, to do the correct thing requires a new crop of humans in Congress.
I don't think it would be a bad thing to 'destroy' the 2nd Amendment.
Modern humans: space age technology; cave age mentality.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)This is what we're calling "tough" these days, and even this has no chance of becoming law at this time.
Some day.
Stuart G
(38,454 posts)Wait a moment....Do we have a woman Vice President?.-.someone named "Harris"? How is that possible?
Wait a moment....Did we have an Afro-American as President of the U.S.?...Was he reelected?..Is that correct?
Then anything is possible? Ain't it...Was an idiot named Trump elected President of the United States?
..............................That proves it EVEN MORE:........Anything is possible!!!