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blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 12:27 PM Jun 2022

Ukraine says troops holding on to Sievierodonetsk, advance in south

Source: Reuters

KYIV/SLOVIANSK, Ukraine, June 9 (Reuters) - Ukrainian forces claimed on Thursday to have pushed forward in intense street fighting in the eastern city of Sievierodonetsk, but said their only hope to turn the tide was more artillery to offset Russia's massive firepower.

In the south, Ukraine's defence ministry said it had captured new ground in a counter-attack in Kherson province, targeting the biggest swathe of territory Russia has seized since its invasion in February.

The battle amid the ruins of Sievierodonetsk, a small industrial city, has become one of the war's bloodiest, with Russia concentrating its invasion force there. Both sides say they have inflicted massive casualties.

Sievierodonetsk and its twin city Lysychansk on the opposite bank of the Siverskyi Donets river are the last Ukrainian-controlled parts of Luhansk province, which Moscow is determined to seize as one of its principal war objectives

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-fighters-hold-out-eastern-city-russia-presses-assault-2022-06-09/

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Ukraine says troops holding on to Sievierodonetsk, advance in south (Original Post) blue-wave Jun 2022 OP
We are with you, UKR. Keep pushing. And hold the South oldsoftie Jun 2022 #1
The institute for the study of war says russia may very well be too spent to continue following PortTack Jun 2022 #2
I've seen that kind of analysis. Igel Jun 2022 #3

oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
1. We are with you, UKR. Keep pushing. And hold the South
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 01:05 PM
Jun 2022

The Russians must not be allowed to push towards Odesa

PortTack

(32,755 posts)
2. The institute for the study of war says russia may very well be too spent to continue following
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:21 PM
Jun 2022

The battle in SVRdonestk- personnel and equipment. Have seen different posts that the UKR military is holding on there for this very reason.

Yes, the Ukrainian forces have suffered heavy losses, but the orcs are terrible street fighters. Just like in the outskirts of Kyiv they are really getting annihilated, more so then the Ukraines.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
3. I've seen that kind of analysis.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 07:40 PM
Jun 2022

Exhaust them. It's also Russia's motive.

At the same time, there could be a political one. If getting the entire territory claimed by the LNR and DNR is Russia's (short-term) end game, then as soon as they approximate the borders of the old oblasts that the LNR and DNR are in Russia could say, "Okay, we want a ceasefire."

Immediately the wimps would come crawling out of the woodwork. "You can trust them." "We'll negotiate ... and *you'll* like it or we'll cease supplying you with weapons and money."

To prevent that, they need to prevent Russia's immediate goals from being met. Deny them a victory break-point.

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