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blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 01:16 PM Jun 2022

Russia says West risks 'direct military clash' over cyber attacks

Source: Reuters

June 9 (Reuters) - Russia warned the West on Thursday that cyber attacks against its infrastructure risked leading to direct military confrontation, and that attempts to challenge Moscow in the cyber sphere would be met with targeted countermeasures.

The warning comes after Russia's housing ministry website appeared to be hacked over the weekend, with an internet search for the site leading to a "Glory to Ukraine" sign in Ukrainian.

In a statement, the foreign ministry said that Russia's critical infrastructure and state institutions were being hit by cyberattacks and pointed to figures in the United States and Ukraine as being responsible.

"Rest assured, Russia will not leave aggressive actions unanswered," it said. "All our steps will be measured, targeted, in accordance with our legislation and international law."

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-west-risks-direct-military-clash-over-cyber-attacks-2022-06-09/



"All our steps will be measured, targeted, in accordance with our legislation and international law."

Oh, you must mean like the illegal invasions of Ukraine, right?

Russia has not and will not follow international law. They have lied about Ukraine for at least a century now.
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Russia says West risks 'direct military clash' over cyber attacks (Original Post) blue-wave Jun 2022 OP
What a joke Russia is, don't do as I do, but do as I say? Ziggysmom Jun 2022 #1
I feel sorry for all the Russian immigrants who oppose his actions LiberalLovinLug Jun 2022 #20
All out War with the West Roc2020 Jun 2022 #2
All out war means who wishes for what doesn't mean shit. Right or wrong are no longer relevant. Magoo48 Jun 2022 #15
Oh no Russia, please don't hack gun sellers and the NRA since they are so vital to the US ck4829 Jun 2022 #3
By their own standard, then DFW Jun 2022 #4
Ukrainians probably wish we had. Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #8
Russia has already declared war on the west. See: Botany Jun 2022 #5
Oh, piss off, you lamers. malthaussen Jun 2022 #6
Trust me Vlad...our black-hats don't bother with such trivial BS. pecosbob Jun 2022 #7
Hackers of the world unite Historic NY Jun 2022 #9
Actual cyber attacks go in the opposite direction, and are far more serious muriel_volestrangler Jun 2022 #10
It's all just for domestic propaganda in Russia. Justice matters. Jun 2022 #11
Russian foreign ministry...kiss my ass n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2022 #12
We need to give them a deadline that THEY risk a direct militart clash relayerbob Jun 2022 #13
They can dish out the hacks, but they can't hack getting them Wicked Blue Jun 2022 #14
3 rusty BMP-2's and 19 scared conscripts are ready to attack at any moment. Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #16
Oh, go fuck yourself, Vlad. Warpy Jun 2022 #17
Notice how the threats gets less specific and cover more and more things? lark Jun 2022 #18
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we're really embarrassed that you would point that out. What Martin68 Jun 2022 #19
These people... XorXor Jun 2022 #21

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
20. I feel sorry for all the Russian immigrants who oppose his actions
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 06:57 PM
Jun 2022

Must be bloody embarrassing. Even when I hear a Russian accent on the street I immediately think of the leader their countrypersons chose and his deplorable actions, not being sure if they too are Putin fans. (A few of them are still)

Magoo48

(4,708 posts)
15. All out war means who wishes for what doesn't mean shit. Right or wrong are no longer relevant.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 03:18 PM
Jun 2022

Good and evil and which side we represent lack meaning in light of a total nuclear extinction event.

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
8. Ukrainians probably wish we had.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 01:52 PM
Jun 2022

After arguing with myself for awhile, I have finally reached the point where I believe NATO should get involved and help bring this war to an end. Putin is still calling the shots in spite of sanctions. And Ukrainian food crops are in danger of rotting, at least the ones Russia hasn’t already stolen, because Putin will not allow their ships to leave port. Why is the Un still negotiating with Putin? Announce that a fleet of ships will escort Ukrainian cargo ships out of the Black Sea to avoid drastic loss of needed food supplies in many parts of the world. Then do it. Would Russia really dare sink a NATO ship? That would truly be a declaration of war.

I also disagreed with Biden’s condition that Ukraine not use thenPatriot missiles to attack Russian territory. Why not? Russia is the aggressor here, and Ukraine has a right to take the war to them. I’m sure Biden wanted to avoid giving Putin reason to escalate, but he will do it anyway if he thinks he’s losing. Haven’t the Ukrainian people suffered enough? With the D-Day commemorations this week, I thought about how the Allied landings would have had different results if commanders had said let’s just parcel out a few landings and see if that changes the Germans’ minds. If not, we’ll eventually send more troops and weaponry. That’s what we are doing to Ukraine.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
5. Russia has already declared war on the west. See:
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 01:34 PM
Jun 2022

1) Brexit

2) 2016 American Elections

This is Maria Butina's handler Alexander Torshin inspecting a voting machine in Luzerne County, PA. In 2016
Luzeren County, PA voted Red for the 1st time since 1988 or 1984.





malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
6. Oh, piss off, you lamers.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 01:35 PM
Jun 2022

Russian sabre-rattling is more like the rattling of dried-up bones at this point. One is almost tempted to channel George Bush, of all people, and say "bring it on."

Your T-62s and Mosin-Nagant rifles scare me not at all.

-- Mal

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
7. Trust me Vlad...our black-hats don't bother with such trivial BS.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 01:44 PM
Jun 2022

That would be Anonymous. If our security agencies target you it won't be your websites that are hit.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
10. Actual cyber attacks go in the opposite direction, and are far more serious
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:02 PM
Jun 2022

2007: "what was at the time the biggest cyberattack against a single country" https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/18/tech/estonia-cyber-security-lessons-intl-cmd/index.html

2017: "Suspected Russia-backed hackers have launched exploratory cyber attacks against the energy networks of the Baltic states" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-baltics-cyber-insight-idUSKBN1871W5

2020: "Both VDD and KAPO reported most spying cases among Russian-based hacking groups targeting essentially state and local government institutions and critical infrastructure agencies. In their analyses, VSD and AOTD paid attention to the cyber espionage of Russian intelligence agencies, including the GRU group Sofacy/APT28 and the FSB group Agentbtz/Snake" https://warsawinstitute.org/baltic-states-versus-russian-hybrid-threats/

2021: "Russian cyber-espionage group APT29 with alleged links to Russia’s intelligence services “exploited” Lithuania’s information technology infrastructure “to carry out attacks by APT29 against foreign entities developing a COVID-19 vaccine.”" https://apnews.com/article/lithuania-coronavirus-pandemic-covid-19-pandemic-national-security-russia-4f643495296f645e8957594034ec0367

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
13. We need to give them a deadline that THEY risk a direct militart clash
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 03:17 PM
Jun 2022

over their invasion, period. And, in any case, it will commence one minute after the British POWs are executed. Cease fire immediately, or else. They won't use nukes, they've backed off every time we've pushed back hard.

Wicked Blue

(5,832 posts)
14. They can dish out the hacks, but they can't hack getting them
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 03:18 PM
Jun 2022

Remember all their cyber attacks during the last election?

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
17. Oh, go fuck yourself, Vlad.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 03:37 PM
Jun 2022

Remember Cosy Bear? We sure as hell do, along with all the TFG loving bots that absolutely flooded Twitter to pump his number of followers up. We remember GRU interference, Hillary Clinton's emails being delivered to Wikileaks, allowing the right wint to shriek about breaches of security that weren't her fault on a server that wasn't against the law when she was SOS. Apparently she is a lot savvier than the GRU is because there was nothing remotely incriminating in 4 years of email.

Vlad we remember your slick campaigns on Farcebook for Brexit and then to give us TFG and we will never, ever forgive Russia for saddling this country with TFG for four of the longest years we've ever experienced.

So Vlad, take that high dudgeon and your threats and shove them where the sun never shines.

And don't forget our targeting systems, we can stuff a nuke down your chimney. You'll be lucky to get within 10 miles of a target.

lark

(23,097 posts)
18. Notice how the threats gets less specific and cover more and more things?
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 04:25 PM
Jun 2022

The West has to have been hurting him significantly, I'd bet. Previously he didn't seen at all concerned about this possibility. Either that or he really is batshit and trying to dramatically increase the scope of the war when he can't even handle Ukraine (with more munitions) or at least make "us" think he will.

Martin68

(22,794 posts)
19. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we're really embarrassed that you would point that out. What
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:19 PM
Jun 2022

with all your cyberattacks, war crimes in Ukraine, and daily lies about your true motivations in Ukraine. Bring it on, guys, we're ready.

XorXor

(621 posts)
21. These people...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 05:26 AM
Jun 2022

"Don't do to us what we do to you"

It's tiring arguing with people who continue to defend Russia's actions and rhetoric. I don't understand the people who have often rightfully criticized US aggression and hypocrisy , but they can't seem to bring themselves to hold Russia (or China) to the same standards. In fact, many of those same people defend anything that is remotely "anti-west".

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