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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,439 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 03:06 PM Jun 2022

New vaccine may be option for troops with religious concerns

Source: Associated Press

New vaccine may be option for troops with religious concerns

By LOLITA C. BALDOR
today

WASHINGTON (AP) — A COVID-19 vaccine that could soon win federal authorization may offer a boost for the U.S. military: an opportunity to get shots into some of the thousands of service members who have refused other coronavirus vaccines for religious reasons.

At least 175 active duty and reserve service members have already received the Novavax vaccine, some even traveling overseas at their own expense to get it. The vaccine meets Defense Department requirements because it has the World Health Organization’s emergency use approval and is used in Europe and other regions. The Food and Drug Administration is considering giving it emergency use authorization in the U.S.

The Novavax vaccine may be an acceptable option for some of the 27,000 service members who have sought religious exemptions from the mandatory vaccine. Military officials say many troops who refuse the shots cite certain COVID-19 vaccines’ remote connection to abortions.

Laboratory-grown cell lines descended from fetuses that were aborted decades ago were used in some early-stage testing of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines and to grow viruses used to manufacture the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. The vaccines do not contain fetal cells. Novavax, however, says that ”no human fetal-derived cell lines or tissue” were used in the development, manufacture or production of its vaccine.

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Read more: https://apnews.com/article/covid-health-government-and-politics-business-religion-b8608af5a14ec95e98cf4b60e62a2b17



Hat tip, Joe.My.God

AP: New Vax May Be Acceptable To Military Refusers
June 9, 2022

https://www.joemygod.com/2022/06/ap-new-vax-may-be-acceptable-to-military-refusers/
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New vaccine may be option for troops with religious concerns (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2022 OP
27K.....Please....that is a load of BS. However, the new vaccine will give them an escape route walkingman Jun 2022 #1
When did orders become voluntary in the military? AZLD4Candidate Jun 2022 #2
They are vaccinated against every other disease known to man Warpy Jun 2022 #5
They're not. Boot them all out, regardless of rank. Ray Bruns Jun 2022 #7
Damn good question. paleotn Jun 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #3
I think they're going to find out in really short order that the religious objection Warpy Jun 2022 #4
They're not "terrified of needles." They're just following their god trump. Discharge them. PSPS Jun 2022 #14
You'd be really surprised Warpy Jun 2022 #15
It is my 'sincerely held belief' the majority used 'sincerely held religious beliefs' as an excuse. MLAA Jun 2022 #6
I sincerely believe you are correct rurallib Jun 2022 #8
😉 MLAA Jun 2022 #9
That's exactly what I was thinking! Initech Jun 2022 #19
I'd love to see a filtering of them so see just how 'religious' they are: MLAA Jun 2022 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author MLAA Jun 2022 #22
Over-the-counter medicines used fetal stem cell lines, too SpankMe Jun 2022 #10
How sincere are their 'sincerely held religious beliefs'? keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #11
Darn! I don't see Viagra on the list! LeftInTX Jun 2022 #17
They practice the religion of "owning the liberals" and that's about it. Initech Jun 2022 #20
Straight up holy water n/t Drum Jun 2022 #12
LOL. "religious concerns" Yeah, now pull the other finger. PSPS Jun 2022 #13
LOL BradAllison Jun 2022 #16
It's a weird religion that rejects vaccines but is just fine with killing people. n/t malthaussen Jun 2022 #23

walkingman

(7,612 posts)
1. 27K.....Please....that is a load of BS. However, the new vaccine will give them an escape route
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 03:09 PM
Jun 2022

from their ignorant political mistake.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
5. They are vaccinated against every other disease known to man
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 03:30 PM
Jun 2022

and all the modern vaccines were tested on that one fetal tissue line from the 70s. I have no idea why this vaccine was considered so different that these fools were allowed to say no.

I have very little patience these days for people who plead religious hysteria in the face of facts about a potentially deadly disease.

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
4. I think they're going to find out in really short order that the religious objection
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 03:26 PM
Jun 2022

boils down to "terrified of needles."

I've always found it hilarious that guys who faced war and/or have been charged by bears are so terrified of needles, but they are.

Pro tips: sit them down abd turn the TV to Pox with the sound way up. Trying to upskirt the bottle blondes talking shite keeps them occupied while you stab them. Just make sure they're sitting, some of them still faint.

PSPS

(13,595 posts)
14. They're not "terrified of needles." They're just following their god trump. Discharge them.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 05:19 PM
Jun 2022

They have already had lots of shots for other things.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
15. You'd be really surprised
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 05:49 PM
Jun 2022

Needle phobia is a thing.

Most immunizations are given by something that looks like a gun, so they didn't mind those. Show them a needle, they'd better be sitting down or you'll have to pick them off the floor.

however, if it's a case of not letting the side down over their traitorous Messiah, general discharge, good luck getting a job, fella.

MLAA

(17,288 posts)
6. It is my 'sincerely held belief' the majority used 'sincerely held religious beliefs' as an excuse.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 03:31 PM
Jun 2022

Will be interesting to see how many doses of the new vaccine are immediately sold.

Initech

(100,070 posts)
19. That's exactly what I was thinking!
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 07:50 PM
Jun 2022

I'd like to tell these idiots where they can shove their "religious exemption"!

MLAA

(17,288 posts)
21. I'd love to see a filtering of them so see just how 'religious' they are:
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:05 PM
Jun 2022

How many have been divorced
How many take other prescription and over the counter drugs that also rely on past abortion cells
How many tithe, literally 100 percent
Etc

After that funnel I bet about 25 people remain as ‘religious’

Response to Initech (Reply #19)

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
10. Over-the-counter medicines used fetal stem cell lines, too
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 04:37 PM
Jun 2022

From an older article about hospitals requiring their staff to get vaccinated, it is pointed out that that most of the myriad vaccines that hospital staff are required to get - and have indeed gotten - were developed using cells derived from fetal stem cells of a long time ago.

Additionally, an Arkansas hospital listed a lot of drugs - both prescription and over-the-counter - that were tested or developed with the use of old stem call lines. These include:

Acetaminophen, albuterol, aspirin, ibuprofen, Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, Tums, Lipitor, Senokot, Motrin, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, Preparation H, Claritin, Prilosec, and Zoloft.

So, we have to assume that all of these conscientious objectors are abstaining from those medicines, too.

keithbvadu2

(36,796 posts)
11. How sincere are their 'sincerely held religious beliefs'?
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 04:47 PM
Jun 2022
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/09/hospital-staff-must-swear-off-tylenol-tums-to-get-religious-vaccine-exemption/

Hospital staff must swear off Tylenol, Tums to get religious vaccine exemption
Hospital CEO aims to educate staff on the full scope of what they're claiming.

The list includes Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, aspirin, Tums, Lipitor, Senokot, Motrin, ibuprofen, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, albuterol, Preparation H, MMR vaccine, Claritin, Zoloft, Prilosec OTC, and azithromycin.

Conway Regional Health System letter

https://katv.com/news/local/conway-regional-ceo-says-covid-19-religious-exemption-isnt-an-attempt-to-shame-employees




https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2021/09/11/about-religious-exemptions-for-vaccine-resisters-conway-regional-health-system-says-you-must-really-mean-it

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