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Jose Garcia

(2,551 posts)
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:41 PM Jun 2022

US seeks full reset with Saudi Arabia, effectively moving on from the murder of Jamal Khashoggi

Source: CNN

Senior US officials have conveyed to Saudi Arabia that the US is prepared to move forward with a "reset" of the relationship, and effectively move on from the 2018 murder of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi in order to repair ties with the key Middle East ally, senior US officials tell CNN.

The planning for a reset is a dramatic about-face for President Joe Biden, who came into office vowing to make Saudi Arabia a "pariah" over Khashoggi's murder. His administration also released an intelligence report last year that directly accused Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of orchestrating Khashoggi's killing.

But officials say Biden, who is under immense pressure to crack down on Russia and lower domestic gas prices amid inflation that's rising at the fastest pace since 1981, has set aside his moral outrage to pursue warmer relations with the Kingdom amid the dramatic global upheaval spurred by the Kremlin's invasion of Ukraine.

"Both sides have decided that for the sake of achieving peace and stability in the Middle East, we need to move past it," said one senior US official, referring to Khashoggi's murder. The Saudis, for their part, consider the Khashoggi case closed—and have made that clear to the US, officials said.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/10/politics/us-saudi-relationship-reset-jamal-khashoggi/index.html

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US seeks full reset with Saudi Arabia, effectively moving on from the murder of Jamal Khashoggi (Original Post) Jose Garcia Jun 2022 OP
Fuck that shit. n/t Coventina Jun 2022 #1
I concur... bahboo Jun 2022 #14
There is no place for the Saudi head choppers, not if we are to be a free Democracy. Magoo48 Jun 2022 #18
Kiss your drug dealer's ass Fullduplexxx Jun 2022 #2
I think the proper term is cilla4progress Jun 2022 #3
I was about to post the same thing. Ray Bruns Jun 2022 #6
Yep, sucks. The Unmitigated Gall Jun 2022 #11
So 9/11 is forgiven too? ZonkerHarris Jun 2022 #4
Saudi accountability Pantagruel Jun 2022 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2022 #25
Yes andricv Jun 2022 #8
There is that ZonkerHarris Jun 2022 #10
Right? Traildogbob Jun 2022 #12
Once again, money and politics trump human decency packman Jun 2022 #5
What's really going on: no_hypocrisy Jun 2022 #9
making deals with the devil, sell our soul for cheaper oil. nt yaesu Jun 2022 #13
They could saw up a 100 journalists and we'd still kiss the ring inwiththenew Jun 2022 #15
Our dependency isn't liable to let up any time soon. LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #32
Sickening. n/t demmiblue Jun 2022 #16
"Just don't do it again, please". maxsolomon Jun 2022 #17
Let's be clear TiberiusB Jun 2022 #19
The US designates four countries as sponsors of state terrorism and one is Iran ripcord Jun 2022 #33
It wouldn't exactly be a lesser evil situation TiberiusB Jun 2022 #34
What's a little dismemberment between friends? Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #20
I give up. You either support or oppose evil. You don't "re-set." Evolve Dammit Jun 2022 #21
Good EX500rider Jun 2022 #22
Yes , this is the reality we face. JI7 Jun 2022 #31
"Shut up if you want the oil" dalton99a Jun 2022 #23
I hope this doesn't hurt Biden in the long-run. BigmanPigman Jun 2022 #24
This wouldn't hurt him at all. What would hurt him is how people feel JI7 Jun 2022 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2022 #26
Only stevekatz Jun 2022 #27
In the Shock Doctrine, there is a chapter about how SA hogtied * into stopping Iraq from pumping Hestia Jun 2022 #28
Get ready for that motherfucker Putin to get welcomed back into "polite society". bullwinkle428 Jun 2022 #29
 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
7. Saudi accountability
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jun 2022

for 9/11 was never pressed. Since they got the surplus oil, we're stuck with them.
Justice for a few is sacrificed for global well being. Driving down crude prices is one of the best weapons to hurt Russia , just a fact of life.

Response to Pantagruel (Reply #7)

Traildogbob

(8,566 posts)
12. Right?
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 01:01 PM
Jun 2022

Let’s just move on from 2 billion dollar bride for Jared and the 1 billion dollar bribe for trumps secretary of treasure, 9/11 and price gauging gas to return-elect trump and all their election meddling. About as great an idea as cozying up to Putin, Kim and China. And, as GQP is kissing Hungary’s 🇭🇺 Ass for “How to control your ignorant citizens” training for DICKtaters. What could go wrong.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
5. Once again, money and politics trump human decency
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:52 PM
Jun 2022

When are we going to stop drinking Saudi oil and grow a set of balls?

I thought the USA didn't deal with or negotiate with terrorist?

no_hypocrisy

(45,765 posts)
9. What's really going on:
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:58 PM
Jun 2022

High profile shmoozing.

Biden and the WH are telling MSB that Jared's not in charge anymore and can't do anything for him and SA.

Instead, offers are being made for new fighter jets, tanks, anti-missile aircraft, etc. And MSB may be a jerk, but he wants to make a deal now, not in 2025.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
15. They could saw up a 100 journalists and we'd still kiss the ring
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jun 2022

We need the oil to flow. Until we get off our dependency on fossil fuels that's the reality of the situation.

LudwigPastorius

(8,943 posts)
32. Our dependency isn't liable to let up any time soon.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 11:05 PM
Jun 2022

At least, not unless the DOD can come up with electric tanks and solar fighter jets.

Oil is indispensable for projecting U.S. military power across the globe. It's the lifeblood of the American Empire.

maxsolomon

(32,975 posts)
17. "Just don't do it again, please".
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 01:17 PM
Jun 2022

Realpolitik. Until the world runs on sunshine and hot springs, we need to have a functional relationship with that medieval Monarchy.

TiberiusB

(484 posts)
19. Let's be clear
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 01:47 PM
Jun 2022

Oil prices aren't high thanks to a lack of supply. It's gouging. period. This is essentially saying to Saudi Arabia, "you win."

Biden could try Iran first.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-05/us-may-allow-more-iran-oil-to-flow-even-without-deal-says-vitol

Saudi Arabia has way more blood on it's hands than just Khashoggi. There is the ongoing war on Yemen, which the U.S. effectively enables, and the well known brutal repression of their own citizens.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/03/saudi-arabia-mass-execution-of-81-men-shows-urgent-need-to-abolish-the-death-penalty/

https://www.fcnl.org/issues/middle-east-iran/saudi-led-war-yemen-frequently-asked-questions

It might also be a good time to try and lean on executive orders to try and get more renewable energy options in place (you, too, Europe). Sure, those orders might be undone, particularly given our current complete disaster of a SCOTUS, but it's worth a try. Climate change isn't going to wait for us to get our act together.

ripcord

(5,081 posts)
33. The US designates four countries as sponsors of state terrorism and one is Iran
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:20 AM
Jun 2022

Are you sure they are the lesser evil?

TiberiusB

(484 posts)
34. It wouldn't exactly be a lesser evil situation
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 09:18 AM
Jun 2022

It could help lead to a renewed nuclear treaty.

One has to consider the U.S. designation of state sponsored terrorism to be deeply ironic, given the U.S. history of supporting terrorist groups around the globe, including Nicaragua, Cuba, Colombia, and, yes, Iran.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/u-s-sponsored-terrorism-74693/

Also:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-real-largest-state-sponsor-of-terrorism_b_58cafc26e4b00705db4da8aa

EX500rider

(10,517 posts)
22. Good
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:13 PM
Jun 2022

He doesn't get the price of fuel down we may be looking at President Ron DeSantis next term, that sound better or worse then making up with the Saudi's?

BigmanPigman

(51,430 posts)
24. I hope this doesn't hurt Biden in the long-run.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 06:21 PM
Jun 2022

I am certainly NOT happy with this news. First all of our golfers put human rights on the back burner as they pocket nine digit dollar amounts to play in the Saudi golf tournaments.

JI7

(89,172 posts)
30. This wouldn't hurt him at all. What would hurt him is how people feel
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 10:20 PM
Jun 2022

about their financial situation.


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Hestia

(3,818 posts)
28. In the Shock Doctrine, there is a chapter about how SA hogtied * into stopping Iraq from pumping
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 07:31 PM
Jun 2022

their oil and putting it on the market, hence, the Iraq FU. Iraq has 4 times the oil in ground as SA, but because SA is OPEC, Iraq is only allowed to pump so much per day (2M barrels? Something like that.)

If/When Iraq would actually be allowed to access their oil, like other countries, the price of oil would drop dramatically.

Oh yeah, did you know Ukraine has oil/gas fields of their own (again, like 4 times greater than what Russia has) in Eastern Ukraine and, funnily enough, that is the area that Russia wants as their own.

As always, follow the money...

bullwinkle428

(20,626 posts)
29. Get ready for that motherfucker Putin to get welcomed back into "polite society".
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 09:16 PM
Jun 2022

Tell everyone you heard it here first.

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