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brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 05:46 PM Jun 2022

Pence-world's final takedown of Trump's Jan. 6 bid to remain in power revealed in his lawyer's memo

Source: Politico

A day before a mob of Donald Trump supporters smashed their way into the Capitol to disrupt the transfer of presidential power, then-Vice President Mike Pence’s top lawyer dashed off a fateful memo.

In the three-page document, attorney Greg Jacob concluded that if Pence were to embrace Trump’s demand that he single-handedly block or delay the counting of electoral votes on Jan. 6, he would be breaking multiple provisions of the Electoral Count Act, the law that has governed the transfer of power since 1887.

Such a move, Jacob concluded, would assuredly fail in court. Or worse, he said, the courts would refuse to get involved and leave America in an unprecedented political crisis.

In that case, he said in the memo obtained by POLITICO and published for the first time, “the Vice President would likely find himself in an isolated standoff against both houses of Congress … with no neutral arbiter available to break the impasse.”



Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/11/pence-trump-jan-6-lawyer-memo-00038996



Jacob will publicly testify at Thursday's Jan 6 Committee Hearing.
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Pence-world's final takedown of Trump's Jan. 6 bid to remain in power revealed in his lawyer's memo (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2022 OP
Pence would have been trapped in the mult-verse! Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #1
Alone. With the huge weight of decision - and consequences to be paid empedocles Jun 2022 #10
Without Mother by his side? SergeStorms Jun 2022 #11
No worries. Just like the debate, the fly would rule. kairos12 Jun 2022 #2
Besides, Dan Quale said not to do it. Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #3
Quayle: Lots of experience in the potatoe-verse. He knew damn well Captain Zero Jun 2022 #6
Yep, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #15
It's just funny picturing Pence Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #16
LOL, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #22
Thanks ever so much, Mr. Bill, for makin' coffee GoldenMezzoDiva Jun 2022 #26
A soda or beer....... MyOwnPeace Jun 2022 #28
Lost it on THAT one!!!!! MyOwnPeace Jun 2022 #27
Dan Quayle saved our democracy! mrsadm Jun 2022 #29
K&R Thanks for posting. n/t TeamProg Jun 2022 #4
Pence needs to summon a little courage. C_U_L8R Jun 2022 #5
Yeah, it's not like Trump's fans Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #17
Kinda nice to know what I thought all a long...Pence is a frightened little twirp. mpcamb Jun 2022 #7
But... He could have gone off with the SS and let Grassley Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2022 #19
...and probably rightly so- mpcamb Jun 2022 #20
Putin would have been happy to assist. colorado_ufo Jun 2022 #24
Jacob was very collegial.... reACTIONary Jun 2022 #8
Just a small question... lonely bird Jun 2022 #21
+10 nt reACTIONary Jun 2022 #23
As Lily Tomlinson once said about quality control, "Are we really worried that quality might tblue37 Jun 2022 #25
Hoosier Daddy, who was yours? czarjak Jun 2022 #9
Blackmail? 3825-87867 Jun 2022 #12
Meanwhile the legalities were delicately being relayed to 45 BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #13
We came so close. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #14
I'm glad to hear Jacob is testifying. dchill Jun 2022 #18

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
1. Pence would have been trapped in the mult-verse!
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 06:06 PM
Jun 2022

Alone forever. Good thing he didn’t think his lawyer was a whiner.

SergeStorms

(19,200 posts)
11. Without Mother by his side?
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 07:52 PM
Jun 2022

No Jeebus, either. No, Pence would never hold up in those conditions. Satan would have him in his clutches in a Mar-ma-lardo minute.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,369 posts)
15. Yep,
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 08:44 PM
Jun 2022

former VP Quayle made it quite clear to VP Pence that there was no wiggle room to his constitutional duties and what the Mango Menace was trying to force him to do was unconstitutional, so credit where credit is due, Quayle helped Pence make the right decision.

Mr.Bill

(24,284 posts)
16. It's just funny picturing Pence
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 09:12 PM
Jun 2022

thinking "I need some expert advice...I know, I'll call Dan Quayle."

Sounds like a Saturday Night Live skit.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
28. A soda or beer.......
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 03:42 PM
Jun 2022

would have been worse!

But, even THAT would have been worth it (but he may owe you a new keyboard or laptop!)

Oh, and 'WELCOME' to DU - you now know to 'be prepared!'

C_U_L8R

(45,001 posts)
5. Pence needs to summon a little courage.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 06:31 PM
Jun 2022

And march himself down to Congress to testify before the world. Just stop with the cowardly coy act.

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
7. Kinda nice to know what I thought all a long...Pence is a frightened little twirp.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 07:25 PM
Jun 2022

He didn't do it because it was doomed to failure in the long run.
Screw right vs wrong...
It wasn't about having to stand up for principles.
It was about getting caught up where he'd have to prove he had some principles.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
19. But... He could have gone off with the SS and let Grassley
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 02:37 AM
Jun 2022

do it. So maybe he was more scared of trump killing him

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
8. Jacob was very collegial....
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 07:28 PM
Jun 2022
“I respect your heart here,” replied Jacob. “I share your concerns .... I want election integrity fixed.... I respectfully conclude that as a legal framework, it is a results oriented position that you would never support if attempted by the opposition, and essentially entirely made up.”

Right up to the very end....

“And thanks to your bullshit,” he continued, “we are now under siege.”

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
21. Just a small question...
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 08:25 AM
Jun 2022

In what manner does election integrity need to be “fixed”?

It is thanks to Republicans that the electoral process that has functioned for 240 years with a few hiccups along the way has come under a cloud. Yes, the electoral college needs to be removed. But that in and of itself is separate from the attempted complete delegimization of democracy that has been aimed at the constitution by Republicans.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
25. As Lily Tomlinson once said about quality control, "Are we really worried that quality might
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 11:50 AM
Jun 2022

get out of control?"

3825-87867

(844 posts)
12. Blackmail?
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 07:52 PM
Jun 2022

Does trump have "those kinds of pictures" of Pence?

You know, the ones where he "kisses" mother in public!

or holds her hands?

Yikes?

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