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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,884 posts)
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 02:41 PM Jun 2022

Kinzinger says Jan. 6 panel has evidence lawmakers sought pardons from Trump

Source: CBS News

Washington — Rep. Adam Kinzinger, one of the Republicans who sits on the House select committee examining the Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, said Sunday that the panel will unveil evidence in upcoming hearings that Republican members of Congress sought pardons from former President Donald Trump in his final weeks in office.

"We're not going to make accusations or say things without proof or evidence backing it," Kinzinger, of Illinois, said in an interview with "Face the Nation" when asked about the revelation last week that GOP lawmakers sought presidential pardons.

Last Thursday, the House select committee held the first of at least six public hearings expected across June, which mark a new phase in the panel's investigation into the events leading up to and on Jan. 6, 2021. During the proceedings last week, committee Vice Chair Liz Cheney, a Republican from Wyoming, revealed "multiple" GOP congressmen sought presidential pardons for their roles in attempting to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.

Cheney named Rep. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania as one of the Republicans who sought a pardon from Trump, though he denied doing so and called the notion "an absolute, shameless, and soulless lie."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kinzinger-says-jan-6-panel-has-evidence-lawmakers-sought-pardons-from-trump/ar-AAYnrxs

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Kinzinger says Jan. 6 panel has evidence lawmakers sought pardons from Trump (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 OP
"an absolute, shameless, and soulless lie." bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #1
Damn, they caught him MiniMe Jun 2022 #3
Wonder why they released Perry's name, but not the others? Midnight Writer Jun 2022 #2
In no particular order: to make the guilty squirm/panic, to incite reporters to dig into it to RockRaven Jun 2022 #4
He's not as commonly mentioned as others? AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2022 #5
What about Gym Jordan? N/T IllinoisBirdWatcher Jun 2022 #7
Honestly, Jordan didn't fit the "B" and "G" axis of names AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2022 #9
Oh! The B G's. BidenRocks Jun 2022 #17
Because he's behind the effort to put Clark in charge of DoJ Deminpenn Jun 2022 #6
That was another dangerous turn. Lasher Jun 2022 #16
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin... Upthevibe Jun 2022 #8
Here is the Democrat who won the primary in PA-10 and will run against Perry - Shamaine Daniels BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #10
PA-10 picked up more of Cumberland county Deminpenn Jun 2022 #21
Here is where it might get dicey BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #22
Wasn't there a post in one of the Fetterman health Deminpenn Jun 2022 #25
I just found this "election calendar" at the state's website BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #26
Good info, thanks Deminpenn Jun 2022 #27
Multiple wryter2000 Jun 2022 #11
Rep Perry is... bill Jun 2022 #12
love it when they squirm! I'm not guilty , just ask me ! towerbum Jun 2022 #13
Make them all testify under oath whether or not they received Pocket Pardons. TheBlackAdder Jun 2022 #14
Roger Stone's draft memo to Trump on who he should pardon QED Jun 2022 #15
K&R. Media should be focused on this & not BS stuff like AOC's off-the-cuff comment onetexan Jun 2022 #23
better get there damn passport's asap !!!!!! towerbum Jun 2022 #18
pardons for what Skittles Jun 2022 #19
+1... myohmy2 Jun 2022 #20
Nothing says "Guilty! Guilty! Guilty!" like a pardon request. Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #24

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
1. "an absolute, shameless, and soulless lie."
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 02:45 PM
Jun 2022

I would bet self-righteousness and narcissism can block all evidence of impropriety from memory.

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
4. In no particular order: to make the guilty squirm/panic, to incite reporters to dig into it to
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 03:17 PM
Jun 2022

try to get a scoop before the hearings even happen and thereby keep it in the news cycles, and to entice the audience (the voters) to tune in to the hearings to find out.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,004 posts)
5. He's not as commonly mentioned as others?
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 03:20 PM
Jun 2022

I see Brooks, Biggs, Boebrrt, Gosar, Greene, Gohmert and Gaetz mentioned all the time. Not Perry.

Lasher

(27,557 posts)
16. That was another dangerous turn.
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 08:09 PM
Jun 2022

Trump wanted to replace Acting AG Jeffrey Rosen with his lapdog Clark. Like his predecessor Barr, Rosen would have none of Trump's treachery. But that plot was foiled when Rosen, along with the DOJ's remaining senior leaders, all threatened to resign as a consequence.

It was Scott Perry who had introduced Clark to Trump.

Upthevibe

(8,034 posts)
8. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin...
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 03:45 PM
Jun 2022

Thank for this post.

Maybe they're being very strategic in how they are going to disclose (by name) who these particular Republicans were.

It's interesting that they only brought up Scott Perry. Maybe they did it to foreshadow that they really do have actual names and situations.

BumRushDaShow

(128,779 posts)
10. Here is the Democrat who won the primary in PA-10 and will run against Perry - Shamaine Daniels
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 04:35 PM
Jun 2022


https://danielsforcongress.org/

She's currently a member of the Harrisburg City Council.

All of the trackers list the seat as "solid" or "safe" Republican although with Perry being under investigation, it'll probably be a badge of honor for him if his ass isn't arrested before the election. The 2022 map is pretty much the same as the 2018 one that un-gerrymandered the Congressional districts.



This is approximately how the map still looks (and how it factored in 2020) -



That blue in the center is the capital city Harrisburg and I think the one to the south is probably York and the one to the west may be part of Carlisle.

I saw some analysis from the 2020 race that mentioned some shifts going on over that way in terms of more of the suburbs of Harrisburg going purplish and blueish, although I don't think it would be enough to flip that but it's something that could be worked.

Deminpenn

(15,276 posts)
21. PA-10 picked up more of Cumberland county
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 07:14 AM
Jun 2022

west of Carlisle and a bit more of York county south of York. That makes the district a bit more R. If Perry ends up being the "star" of the hearing covering the attempt to put Clark in charge of DoJ, there might be enough Rs willing to vote against him, withhold their vote or just not bother to vote at all to flip the seat.

BumRushDaShow

(128,779 posts)
22. Here is where it might get dicey
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 07:44 AM
Jun 2022

if the odd chance occurs that Perry gets some kind of indictment and is forced to drop out, would the GOP make a fuss to get someone else on the ballot to replace him (if that all happened before the general election)? I think he ran unopposed in the primary.

Deminpenn

(15,276 posts)
25. Wasn't there a post in one of the Fetterman health
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 07:22 PM
Jun 2022

threads that he'd have to withdraw by mid-Aug for Dems to replace him? The same deadline should apply to Rs if Perry were to drop out. Maybe the Rs will pressure him to withdraw if they think the J6 hearnings make him damaged goods.

BumRushDaShow

(128,779 posts)
26. I just found this "election calendar" at the state's website
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 07:33 PM
Jun 2022
https://www.vote.pa.gov/About-Elections/Pages/Election-Calendar.aspx

(snip)

August 1, 2022 Last day to circulate and file nomination papers
August 8, 2022 Last day for withdrawal by candidates nominated by nomination papers
August 15, 2022 Last day for withdrawal by candidates nominated at the primary

(snip)


So that may be where that "August" date came from.

QED

(2,747 posts)
15. Roger Stone's draft memo to Trump on who he should pardon
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 06:56 PM
Jun 2022

Roger Stone’s draft memo to Trump on who he should pardon, including Gaetz, Biggs, Gohmert, Jordan, Brooks, Gosar, Cruz, and Hawley

This is sourced from the Washington Post according to Document Cloud. It's the first I've heard of it and I've been keeping up.

Contributed by Julie Vitkovskaya (Washington Post)

Source: The Washington Post


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