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Polybius

(15,398 posts)
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 11:20 PM Jun 2022

Ocasio-Cortez won't commit to backing Biden in 2024: 'We'll cross that bridge when we get to it'

Source: CNN

New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Sunday would not commit to backing President Joe Biden in the 2024 presidential election, saying instead that “we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it.”

“I think if the President has a vision, then that’s something certainly we’re all willing to entertain and examine when the time comes,” Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat who wields a significant amount of influence over the party’s progressive wing, told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union” when asked if she plans to support Biden in his 2024 reelection bid.

“That’s not a yes,” Bash said, to which the congresswoman replied: “We should endorse when we get to it, but I believe that the President’s been doing a very good job so far, and, you know, should he run again, I think that I, you know, I think … we’ll take a look at it.

“But right now, we need to focus on winning a majority instead of a presidential election,” she added, referring to this year’s November midterm elections.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/12/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-biden-reelection-2024-cnntv/index.html

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Ocasio-Cortez won't commit to backing Biden in 2024: 'We'll cross that bridge when we get to it' (Original Post) Polybius Jun 2022 OP
To be honest I don't care what she thinks kimbutgar Jun 2022 #1
agree. agingdem Jun 2022 #9
+++++ comradebillyboy Jun 2022 #14
I sure don't care what she thinks JohnSJ Jun 2022 #2
Right now we need unity Bayard Jun 2022 #3
But there are too many Democrats that for them getting headlines is the most important question everything Jun 2022 #4
There is no unity SuperCoder Jun 2022 #32
Who cares what anybody thinks about 2024 endorsements right now? ArizonaLib Jun 2022 #5
If AOC had said yes, there wouldn't be any Biden bashing. dem4decades Jun 2022 #8
She never bashed Biden in her replies SunImp Jun 2022 #17
Exactly my point! ArizonaLib Jun 2022 #28
Post removed Post removed Jun 2022 #6
no offense but go away... agingdem Jun 2022 #7
Okay. Ellipsis Jun 2022 #10
OK, she's pissing me off jmbar2 Jun 2022 #11
Excellent. And I agree. n/t yorkster Jun 2022 #15
+1 SunSeeker Jun 2022 #19
Thank you, well said PatSeg Jun 2022 #22
Yes elleng Jun 2022 #57
Thank You! Cha Jun 2022 #75
God, she needs to learn to edit herself... brush Jun 2022 #12
I don't know if it's bad judgement or if she's merely self-serving yorkster Jun 2022 #16
Yes, the last minute Nina Turner endorsement was... brush Jun 2022 #76
Exactly. Disappointing. betsuni Jun 2022 #77
"If The President has a vision"Having a vision does not get legislation passed Walleye Jun 2022 #13
CNN: Do you support Biden in a bid he hasn't even said he is a candidate for? Gore1FL Jun 2022 #18
+1 This SunImp Jun 2022 #20
Biden has repeatedly said he intends to run in 2024 and that Harris will be his running mate. SunSeeker Jun 2022 #21
Of course. It's what he should say. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #34
I agree that what she said here isn't ReluctanceTango Jun 2022 #24
For a more informed perspective... Wuddles440 Jun 2022 #44
Setup BS question. Part of he ongoing attempts by MSM to split the party & portray any progressives Ford_Prefect Jun 2022 #23
As if loonie rhetoric like "corporate Democrats" ReluctanceTango Jun 2022 #25
In the 60 years I've been a registered Democrat I've met many kinds. Corporate Dems are just one Ford_Prefect Jun 2022 #27
Edit: Oh, never mind. betsuni Jun 2022 #29
Well then, she should be smart enough to not play along. She's not. oldsoftie Jun 2022 #35
Is her seat safe? ripcord Jun 2022 #26
What kind of fucking asshole question is that? 2naSalit Jun 2022 #30
Exactly! stuffmatters Jun 2022 #31
Ditto. CNN's BS onetexan Jun 2022 #56
She did the right thing by not answering the divisive question. Emile Jun 2022 #64
True. 2naSalit Jun 2022 #68
She'll do the right thing when the time comes. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #33
ok, but let's hope she knows the right time when it happens cab67 Jun 2022 #65
In pro wrestling, this is called "going into business for yourself" oldsoftie Jun 2022 #36
And fundraising. betsuni Jun 2022 #37
This is the most recent right wing narrative gab13by13 Jun 2022 #38
Agree!!! Wuddles440 Jun 2022 #43
She would never make it here at DU. EOM Lasher Jun 2022 #39
Yeah right? RevBrotherThomas Jun 2022 #55
READ the article people! AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #40
Why not? betsuni Jun 2022 #41
Because the headline is tabloid bullshit AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #42
But she was asked three times, also asked three time if she'd vote for the compromise gun betsuni Jun 2022 #46
She said this AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #47
Huh? betsuni Jun 2022 #48
She praised Biden AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #49
Justice Democrats. betsuni Jun 2022 #51
Ah - so you're suggesting 867-5309. Jun 2022 #74
She's under no obligation to back Joe in a 2024 primary 867-5309. Jun 2022 #45
She has voted against Democratic legislation more than once. Perhaps she could face a Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #53
Of course she could - that's how she came into office 867-5309. Jun 2022 #62
I do think she is obligated to support Democratic legislation which is the point of electing her. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #73
Come on - more people recognize her name than Nancy Pelosi's womanofthehills Jun 2022 #63
More people in Ohio knew who Nina Turner was too...but she lost the primary and the special. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #72
Nuanced, grounded in reality, and allowing Democrats to climb a wall of worry bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #50
Okay Lil Liberal Laura Jun 2022 #52
Excuse me? She is in Congress and we are in the middle of a midterm. What she says does matter. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #54
Well, isn't this a unity encouraging, non divisive headline? Magoo48 Jun 2022 #58
My friend from Manhattan Young Dems calls her... nycbos Jun 2022 #59
This is CNN doing a clickbait gotcha question. dbonds Jun 2022 #60
I can't seem to find the thread about Biden praising Mitch Mcconnel on Kimmel TiberiusB Jun 2022 #61
I don't have a problem with her answer. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #66
Neither do I Farmer-Rick Jun 2022 #67
so what llashram Jun 2022 #69
Like it or not its going to take compromise. oldsoftie Jun 2022 #70
name of the llashram Jun 2022 #71
CNN..... jcmaine72 Jun 2022 #78
Sorry for all her defenders here but: this kind of talk does not help our party. Not one bit. machoneman Jun 2022 #79

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
1. To be honest I don't care what she thinks
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 11:23 PM
Jun 2022

She still has to gain knowledge, experience and wisdom.

I like AOC but I’ll listen to President Joseph Biden with his 40+ years of experience over her.

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
9. agree.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:06 AM
Jun 2022

Last edited Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:44 AM - Edit history (1)

every now and then AOC has a moment of clarity...this isn't one of them..more comments like this and she's in grave danger of morphing into a well dressed articulate Marjorie Taylor Greene..just saying...

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
5. Who cares what anybody thinks about 2024 endorsements right now?
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 11:38 PM
Jun 2022

This is why CNN's viewership is so low when compared to its live coverage of the J6 hearings. They chase away a lot of their potential audience with stupid leads. Anything to Bash Biden I guess.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
28. Exactly my point!
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 04:13 AM
Jun 2022

Dana Bash'd Biden - AOC said some good stuff about Biden and nothing negative. The headline is click bait at the President's expense.

Response to Polybius (Original post)

jmbar2

(4,876 posts)
11. OK, she's pissing me off
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:14 AM
Jun 2022

Since 2021, Biden has been simultaneously dealing with
- America's first full blown coup and attempts to undermine democracy/vote.
- Economic consequences of covid (stimulus, child credits)
- Rapid reversal of Trump's vaccine debacle - rollout of multiple vaccines and boosters
- Invasion of Ukraine - rapid assembly of coalition, sanctions, provision of weapons
- China's aspirations to invade Taiwan
- Rising inflation and potential recession
- Mass gun incidents

I can think of NO other leader who has the international relations and trust that he has formed over a long career in public service.

Would you want a tRump clone in charge of this mess? Or someone with no experience?

He is an old and wise man, of sound temperament. Few could fill his shoes right now. And no one, regardless of talent and intellect, could handle all of this without error.

Sheesh... give our President a break!


brush

(53,776 posts)
12. God, she needs to learn to edit herself...
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:23 AM
Jun 2022

before she makes such ridiculous pronouncements. Joe Biden is going to be the nominee so who else is she going to back, a neo-fascist republican, or maybe a moderate Dem who gins up the nerve to primary Joe Biden? Or maybe she's going to pull a Jill Stein, have lunch with Putin and run herself as a third party candidate as she'll turn 35 a month before the 2024 election?

She says she'll take a look at supporting Joe when the time comes, talk about being full of oneself.

yorkster

(1,490 posts)
16. I don't know if it's bad judgement or if she's merely self-serving
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 01:08 AM
Jun 2022

but this is getting really old. Her last minute endorsement of Nina Turner over Shontel Brown was really telling.
Unity is all, dammit. Especially at a time like this.

brush

(53,776 posts)
76. Yes, the last minute Nina Turner endorsement was...
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:58 AM
Jun 2022

phony if you ask me. She wanted to seem true to the so-called Justice Democrats by seeming to back Turner, but if she really wanted to support her she would've endorsed her a lot sooner. And of all people to back she picks a two-time loser like Turner...or is it now a three-time loser?

I don't know, AOC is coming off as calculating and self-serving to me. Why is it so hard for her to just back Democratic incumbents like other Democrats do? Even Bernie Sanders just said he would back Joe Biden and won't primary him.

Gore1FL

(21,130 posts)
18. CNN: Do you support Biden in a bid he hasn't even said he is a candidate for?
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 01:12 AM
Jun 2022

AOC: I think we should concentrate on 2022.

DU: AoC iS dIsUnItY!

Predictable as an eclipse.



 

ReluctanceTango

(219 posts)
24. I agree that what she said here isn't
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 03:29 AM
Jun 2022

Quite as bad as it’s made to sound, but any enmity she has in D circles, she’s earned for boneheaded moves like supporting Nina Turner over Shontel Brown.

She does herself no favors when she aligns with asshats who have gone out of their way to tear down good Democrats. Turner has made an entire career about hating on any D who doesn’t march in lockstep with her on the lunatic fringe.

It shows really bad judgment to support a crank like that over a solid liberal like Shontel Brown.

Wuddles440

(1,122 posts)
44. For a more informed perspective...
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:16 AM
Jun 2022

you may want to research Ms. Brown's record as Chairperson of the Democratic Party in Cuyahoga County.

Ford_Prefect

(7,895 posts)
23. Setup BS question. Part of he ongoing attempts by MSM to split the party & portray any progressives
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 03:27 AM
Jun 2022

as absolutist spoilers. Meanwhile they show off corporate Dems as the mainstream great white hope. Get your ticket now for the next trifecta!

Ford_Prefect

(7,895 posts)
27. In the 60 years I've been a registered Democrat I've met many kinds. Corporate Dems are just one
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 04:11 AM
Jun 2022

class among them. I don't believe in party purity. It has no basis in the real communities we inhabit.

That there is collusion among corporate sponsors to manage the future of our party to their advantage is hardly a recent revelation. That I object to it should be no surprise either.

If you haven't yet picked up on how its been done you may have missed a few chapters in American History.

For the record Corporate Democrats were labeled as such by the press long ago. It is not "loonie rhetoric" for me to use the term. The idea that the Democratic Party stands primarily for middle class suburbia is another historical invention of the press. It is one which flies in the face of actual party history, just ask anyone with a union card.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
35. Well then, she should be smart enough to not play along. She's not.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 06:43 AM
Jun 2022

How DARE they ask a democrat if they'd support the current Democrat holding the office!!

ripcord

(5,372 posts)
26. Is her seat safe?
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 03:48 AM
Jun 2022

Can the DNC take a page from her playbook and support another democrat for her seat?

2naSalit

(86,585 posts)
30. What kind of fucking asshole question is that?
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 05:47 AM
Jun 2022

A click-bait we'll say anything to get people riled up bullshit question is what.

Fuck CNN and whomever was interviewing her! If you don't have anything valid to ask her then stop wasting her time and ours by asking ignorant fucking questions like that.

Fuck CNN. ("cause nothing's news).

Emile

(22,714 posts)
64. She did the right thing by not answering the divisive question.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 10:18 AM
Jun 2022

Some of these so called news people are hell bent to go out of their way and ask stupid questions to divide the democratic party. The question should have NEVER been asked!

2naSalit

(86,585 posts)
68. True.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:04 PM
Jun 2022

That it was asked at all at this time was divisive in itself. AOC is well practiced at this by now.

cab67

(2,992 posts)
65. ok, but let's hope she knows the right time when it happens
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 10:36 AM
Jun 2022

Voting for Biden is certainly important, but so is supporting him (assuming he's the candidate in 2024) early enough that we don't see the devastation that divisiveness can cause.

We've seen the kind of damage this can cause. We just don't live in the kind of world where a political party in the US can survive it during an election year.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
36. In pro wrestling, this is called "going into business for yourself"
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 06:46 AM
Jun 2022

Not doing what's best for the party but what's best for YOUR image

gab13by13

(21,330 posts)
38. This is the most recent right wing narrative
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 07:10 AM
Jun 2022

and it has made its way to DU. AOC has been one of the most outspoken critics of Trump and his Congressional traitors.

I watched the interview live and I knew this would happen. She admitted she should have given a better answer but with that said, I wish we had 100 AOC's in Congress.

The Magats know who to go after and Democrats even help them, think Al Franken.

Wuddles440

(1,122 posts)
43. Agree!!!
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:04 AM
Jun 2022

And I'm still pissed about how harshly he was treated by many in leadership positions within our party. He should have just apologized for the inappropriate behavior, vowed to abstain from any such actions in the future, promote policies to further combat harassment, and move on. With his resignation we lost a significant voice and visable in our party and that achieved the GQP's prime objective.

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
42. Because the headline is tabloid bullshit
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:01 AM
Jun 2022

done to create drama & controversy.

It's misleading and done so intentionally to drive people to their website.
"Clicks for cash" otherwise known as "ad revenue".

She literally praises Biden in the article.

betsuni

(25,486 posts)
46. But she was asked three times, also asked three time if she'd vote for the compromise gun
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:20 AM
Jun 2022

bill. No real yes. That's what she said, her words. She also said legislators shouldn't be "elected in perpetuity forever."

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
49. She praised Biden
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:45 AM
Jun 2022

as I showed. I don't know what else to tell you. She's correct that we should be concentrating on midterms right now and not 2024.

 

867-5309.

(1,189 posts)
74. Ah - so you're suggesting
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 01:23 PM
Jun 2022

she wasn't leaving open the possibility of supporting a challenger to Biden in 2024. She was simply saying we shouldn't worry about 2024 right now?

 

867-5309.

(1,189 posts)
45. She's under no obligation to back Joe in a 2024 primary
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:19 AM
Jun 2022

Obviously, she's not talking about the general and didn't bash Joe in her response. No problem with it.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
53. She has voted against Democratic legislation more than once. Perhaps she could face a
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 09:00 AM
Jun 2022

primary at some point.

 

867-5309.

(1,189 posts)
62. Of course she could - that's how she came into office
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 10:00 AM
Jun 2022

And we have a more progressive, effective, and representative congressperson. Primaries aren't necessarily harmful.

I also don't think she's obligated to vote for "Democratic" legislation, tbh.

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
63. Come on - more people recognize her name than Nancy Pelosi's
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 10:08 AM
Jun 2022

Unless you want to put big corporate super pac funded candidates up against her - like what happened with other progressive women recently

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
72. More people in Ohio knew who Nina Turner was too...but she lost the primary and the special.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jun 2022

Recently, Nina lost again. I value loyalty and accomplishments...perhaps some in her district do as well. I do think AOC is destroying any chance of running and winning a Senate seat. I once thought she might be the first woman president.

bucolic_frolic

(43,148 posts)
50. Nuanced, grounded in reality, and allowing Democrats to climb a wall of worry
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 08:46 AM
Jun 2022

Just like Wall Street, just like Trump did in 2016. Climb a Wall of Worry. Keep the public ill at ease and uncertain until the money's on the line.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
54. Excuse me? She is in Congress and we are in the middle of a midterm. What she says does matter.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 09:03 AM
Jun 2022

And I think if she doesn't support President Biden, she could face a primary herself.

Magoo48

(4,708 posts)
58. Well, isn't this a unity encouraging, non divisive headline?
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 09:18 AM
Jun 2022

Let’s bash the progressive Latina who didn’t bash our President, for Bashing our President

Since when does what is, ultimately—Let’s Waite and se—a bash?

dbonds

(4,793 posts)
60. This is CNN doing a clickbait gotcha question.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 09:33 AM
Jun 2022

I saw the interview, AOC was just focused on things happening now.

TiberiusB

(487 posts)
61. I can't seem to find the thread about Biden praising Mitch Mcconnel on Kimmel
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 09:50 AM
Jun 2022

Last edited Mon Jun 13, 2022, 02:17 PM - Edit history (2)

I don't know, but maybe going on national television and praising the Republican Minority Senate leader and blatantly ignoring the decades of unhinged opposition to your own party might not be the best mid-term strategy.

Nah, it can't be that. It has to be that AOC person that is "always on camera" because she's young, attractive, outspoken, and who knows the value in messaging. All traits that draw the press corps like flies.

Let's review:

Biden sh*ts on Millennials:

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-says-millennials-dont-have-it-tough-780348

and let's not forget this:

https://prospect.org/politics/bidens-votes-on-the-bankruptcy-bill-middle-class-joe/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/02/joe-biden-student-loan-debt-2005-act-2020

How is any of that somehow less impactful than a random statement from AOC that only seems to register with political obsessives on random internet forums?

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
67. Neither do I
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 11:57 AM
Jun 2022

We'll cross that bridge when we get there is what she is saying.

And she added that he has done a good job so far. My opinion too.

Corporate media is making a mountain out of a mole hole. They are trying to divide the left into 2 camps and get some infighting going on. So then the Russian trolls can come in and make that crack between very liberal and mildly liberal a canyon.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
69. so what
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:11 PM
Jun 2022

ms. Ocasio-Cortez. Don't back your POTUS. I ran into a repthug recently. He was blaming President Biden for the high fuel costs that the gasoline companies are gouging out of the American people. I asked him, can you remember that d.trump possibly knew because of his very close association with putin in Russia that a war was coming. Being so obsessed with the then President's son, he tried to leverage his backing of President Zelensky with some kind of information which would show some type of unlawful behaviour by President Biden's son. The repthug that showed up at our weekend barbecue sputtered something about Hunter Biden's guilt on his laptop. I then asked why would d.trump as POTUS withhold critical help to Ukraine with Russia threatening, behind the scenes at that time, to go to war with that country? We didn't know it but I bet trump knew it and that's one of the reasons he fought so hard, outside of his narcissistic personality disorder not allowing him to see himself as a loser, to overthrow the election. He would have backed Putin to the hilt. With all that might have entailed in intel etc... He said Russia is just taking back its rightful land from "nazis".

I could go on, but my final question was who's responsible for our high fuel cost? He said, President Biden. I stopped. I said President Biden was no friend of Putin's and along with the EU had to exact some type of price from Russia for an unlawful incursion-war-genocide against Ukraine and if I had to suffer some with high prices then I just had to bite the bullet. My friend and I walked away from that clown after laughing in his face. Not many people talked to him.

I just hope though that something can be found to stop the oil companies from ripping us off. My retirement $$$ go just so far.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
70. Like it or not its going to take compromise.
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 12:32 PM
Jun 2022

Oil companies don't want to spend billions on new infrastructure if they think the Govt is going to make them stop using it 2,4,6 whatever years from now. The push to go AWAY from oil & gas will affect their decisions.
But if they were given a guarantee of X years maybe they'd get off the pot. I don't know. But right now there pressure is coming from their investors. We need to get MORE of it to come from the PUBLIC

llashram

(6,265 posts)
71. name of the
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 01:02 PM
Jun 2022

game...always and you are right on "the pot". Given the last couple of years, I( don't know anything for certain anymore.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
78. CNN.....
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 02:34 PM
Jun 2022

...Desperate for ratings as usual and willing to sink to any depth to bolster them. This story is little more than the deed to the Brooklyn Bridge being waved before your very eyes. Don't buy it, cause it's fake.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
79. Sorry for all her defenders here but: this kind of talk does not help our party. Not one bit.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 04:00 PM
Jun 2022

She needs a filter to prevent her from killing off Democratic votes.

And if you disagree....please tell me how this kind of statement helps.

Good luck with that!

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