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TexasTowelie

(112,620 posts)
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:02 AM Jun 2022

Bernie Sanders says he won't primary Biden and would support him if he runs again

Source: CNN

Sen. Bernie Sanders, the progressive firebrand and former Democratic presidential candidate, said on Monday he would not challenge President Joe Biden in a 2024 primary and would back him if he runs – a comment that comes as Democrats are uncertain whether the 79-year-old President should run again.

“I think it’s a little too early,” the Vermont independent, who caucuses with Democrats, told CNN when asked if he would back Biden in 2024. “I think Biden will probably run again, and if he runs again, I will support him.”

Asked if he would run against Biden in a primary, Sanders said: “Not if he runs.”

The White House has said Biden plans to run for reelection next year.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/13/politics/bernie-sanders-biden-support/index.html

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Bernie Sanders says he won't primary Biden and would support him if he runs again (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jun 2022 OP
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2022 #1
But AOC is still undecided. BigmanPigman Jun 2022 #2
Thought the same thing. dem4decades Jun 2022 #3
Posturing rpannier Jun 2022 #4
AOC is too young yo run. I belive the reference was if she would support Biden if chose to run again CentralMass Jun 2022 #5
If you mean too young by birthdate, no, she makes it for the January 20th, 2025 swearing in by 100 Celerity Jun 2022 #11
By any chance did you listen True Blue American Jun 2022 #7
But the Fox people wouldn't agree with Bernie on what "should be done' oldsoftie Jun 2022 #13
That's not what I thought she said questionseverything Jun 2022 #38
If Biden chose not to run and Bernie threw his hat in the ring again, I'd vote for him. CentralMass Jun 2022 #6
I wouldn't after the way he criticized Biden. True Blue American Jun 2022 #8
If Biden has had a better ally in trying to pass his agenda then Bernie point him or her out. CentralMass Jun 2022 #9
Schumer,Pelosi, Chris Murphy, etc. True Blue American Jun 2022 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author mountain grammy Jun 2022 #20
I would not vote for him in the primary. I do not believe he could win a General...we need Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #23
I like Bernie but he's way too old Polybius Jun 2022 #25
Not happening. Cha Jun 2022 #30
Great to hear... Mike Nelson Jun 2022 #10
This is the correct answer. betsuni Jun 2022 #12
And while he's at it... wolfie001 Jun 2022 #14
Funny True Blue American Jun 2022 #16
"The White House has said Biden plans to run for reelection next year." Lil Liberal Laura Jun 2022 #17
Bernie and Joe have a good relationship 867-5309. Jun 2022 #18
Biden's a man. betsuni Jun 2022 #19
+1 LizBeth Jun 2022 #22
Have we ever had a major political figure who's a stronger feminist than Bernie? 867-5309. Jun 2022 #26
Yes, President Obama and President Biden. Cha Jun 2022 #31
How so? 867-5309. Jun 2022 #35
It's my opinion after paying attention Cha Jun 2022 #36
If, for some reason, Biden does not wish to run for President in '24, I suggest that we try to Chainfire Jun 2022 #21
He would be 105 if living. Not much older than Betty White or others. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #27
To discriminate bases on age is no longer accepted as being correct policy in our society. Chainfire Jun 2022 #29
How nice of him. murielm99 Jun 2022 #24
If he had said anything other than this Sympthsical Jun 2022 #39
I'm wondering how many DUers are even supporting Dems in 2022 IronLionZion Jun 2022 #28
What are you talking about? This is Cha Jun 2022 #32
Be wary of too many negative posts in an election year IronLionZion Jun 2022 #33
Oh I am.. been doing it for almost Cha Jun 2022 #34
Bernie... myohmy2 Jun 2022 #37

rpannier

(24,350 posts)
4. Posturing
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:59 AM
Jun 2022

She won't run. She doesn't have the base of support to be viable.
Sen Warren has a larger group of supporters
Biden, if he does run again, would be up against il douche or the other guy in Florida
She'd tick her vote for Biden to be against them if nothing else

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
5. AOC is too young yo run. I belive the reference was if she would support Biden if chose to run again
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:22 AM
Jun 2022

Celerity

(43,694 posts)
11. If you mean too young by birthdate, no, she makes it for the January 20th, 2025 swearing in by 100
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 05:34 AM
Jun 2022

days on the nose, as she was born on October 13, 1989. You need to be 35yo (for POTUS) on or before the day you are sworn in (January 20th of the year after the one in which the election was held).

Buttigieg technically could have run in 2016, as he would have turned 35yo two days (see why it is two days, and not one, below) before he would have been sworn in, as his birthday is January 19, 1982.

I said two days before as even IF he was born on January 21, 1982, he still could have been sworn in on January 20th, 2017, as legally a person turns their new age the day BEFORE their birthday, as they have thus lived that full year, so he would have legally been 35 on January 20th. I am sure it would have been challenged, but he would have won. His being born (in reality now) on January 19th, 1982 meant he legally turned 35yo on January 18th, 2017.


https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/4783/us-law-what-exact-time-is-a-person-considered-legally-18

In the US, the common law rule is that a year of age is completed on the day preceding the anniversary of one's birth.

Here are some citations from cases that relied on this rule:

"Full age in male or female is 21 years, which age is completed on the day preceding the 21st anniversary of a person's birth." State in Interest of FW 130 N.J. Super. 513 (1974) (citing Blackstone)

"The common law rule for computing age is that one is deemed to have reached a given age at the earliest moment of the day preceding an anniversary of birth." Fisher v. Smith, 319 F. Supp. 855 (D. Wash. 1970)

"The appellant did, then, reach the age of nineteen years on the day before the nineteenth anniversary of his birth" Turnbull v. Bonkowski, 419 F.2d 104 (D. Alaska 1969)

This is codified in some statutes and regulations. For example, CFR 404.102:

For the purpose of this subpart [...] You reach a particular age on the day before your birthday. For example, if your sixty-second birthday is on July 1, 1979, you became age 62 on June 30, 1979.

In Virginia, the Attorney General has confirmed that the common law rule is in effect:

a person attains his/her next year of age on the day prior to his/her birthday

In your example, barring a modification by state law, or an idiosyncratic treatment under a particular statute, the person would be deemed 18 years of age at the earliest moment of December 31, 2017.

For a bit of comparative law, contrast with the treatment in British Columbia:

A person reaches a particular age expressed in years at the start of the relevant anniversary of his or her date of birth. (Interpretation Act s. 25)


another explanation from that site:

It is logically simple why you turn the legal age the day before your birthday. If you were born in January 1, 2000 (like the example above), on December 31, 2020 you have been 'alive' for exactly 21 full years. (the year 2000 plus 20 more years). I have a unique reason I know this to be true. I was born on November 9th, 1998. The day before in 2016 (November 8th) happened to be the 2016 Federal elections in the US. I thought I had missed it by ONE day of being able to vote, but my brother is an attorney and did some enquiries and found out that I was legally 18 (in California) the day before my birthday. So I got to vote!!! (NOT happy with the results btw, lol).

Finally this applies for US Federal candidates as well. Congress is sworn in on January 3rd, so a person must be 25 (for the House of Representatives) or 30 (for the Senate) to be sworn in. Thus a person born on January 4th 1996 is eligible to run for the US House in the 2020 elections, as they would be legally assumed to be 25 on January 3, 2021 (the day they are sworn in and the day they are legally 25). The US president is sworn in on January 20th and must be 35 years old, so a person a person born on January 21, 1986 could actually run in the 2020 race, as they would be legally 35 years old on January 20, 2021.

True Blue American

(17,995 posts)
7. By any chance did you listen
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:47 AM
Jun 2022

To the Sanders / Graham debate on Fox? I flip to them to see what they are showing.. The part I watched was Bernie telling President Biden what he should be doing. Why he agreed to that so called debate is beyond me. I wondered if it was an old one until I heard him telling the President what he should be doing.

Sanders is like Sinema and Manchin, all for me. He may have praised Biden, but I did not see it. I know that clip of him telling the President what he should be doingwill be played over and over on Fox.

oldsoftie

(12,658 posts)
13. But the Fox people wouldn't agree with Bernie on what "should be done'
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:06 AM
Jun 2022

I.E.; Bernie isn't going to come out talking about what needs to be done to increase oil production.

questionseverything

(9,666 posts)
38. That's not what I thought she said
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:15 PM
Jun 2022

I thought she correctly pointed out, we need to concentrate on 2022 right now

True Blue American

(17,995 posts)
8. I wouldn't after the way he criticized Biden.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:50 AM
Jun 2022

To be honest I would not vote for him anyway.. He is much too far left for me.

Response to True Blue American (Reply #8)

Demsrule86

(68,772 posts)
23. I would not vote for him in the primary. I do not believe he could win a General...we need
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 11:45 AM
Jun 2022

Biden to run so as to win the rustbelt.

Mike Nelson

(9,980 posts)
10. Great to hear...
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 05:22 AM
Jun 2022

... Bernie helped Hillary and Biden win the vote (but not, in one case, the Electoral College) by making them look "centrist." That is not needed if Biden runs again, as expected. However, if Biden should opt out, a "far left" candidate will be needed and I hope Bernie reconsiders. Primaries only, of course - NOT independent in a General Election!

 

867-5309.

(1,189 posts)
18. Bernie and Joe have a good relationship
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:35 AM
Jun 2022

I know Bernie irks some by staying Independent, but he's a reliable vote and advances progressive issues.

This is good to hear, but expected.

 

867-5309.

(1,189 posts)
26. Have we ever had a major political figure who's a stronger feminist than Bernie?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 12:38 PM
Jun 2022

He's on the right side of those issues. And he does have female allies, of course.

Cha

(297,935 posts)
36. It's my opinion after paying attention
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:09 PM
Jun 2022

to who they are.

I'll take President Obama and President Biden attitude towards Women every time.

💙💛

Chainfire

(17,718 posts)
21. If, for some reason, Biden does not wish to run for President in '24, I suggest that we try to
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:44 AM
Jun 2022

convince JFK, Sr. to run again.

twodogsbarking

(9,896 posts)
27. He would be 105 if living. Not much older than Betty White or others.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 01:27 PM
Jun 2022

even though he has been dead for more than fifty eight years.

Chainfire

(17,718 posts)
29. To discriminate bases on age is no longer accepted as being correct policy in our society.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 02:20 PM
Jun 2022

Nor should being dead. Rather a dead JFK than a live DeSantis.

IronLionZion

(45,615 posts)
28. I'm wondering how many DUers are even supporting Dems in 2022
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 01:32 PM
Jun 2022

Biden needs more Dems in congress, not less.

Cha

(297,935 posts)
32. What are you talking about? This is
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:31 PM
Jun 2022

Democratic Underground.

We're here to Support Dems.. and why not? It's either that or support Fascism and nobody the hell better be here that supports that shit.

💙💛

IronLionZion

(45,615 posts)
33. Be wary of too many negative posts in an election year
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 03:45 PM
Jun 2022

especially from DUers who have nothing positive to say about any Dem candidate anywhere

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