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icymist

(15,888 posts)
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:12 PM Jun 2022

Elon Musk sued for $258 billion over alleged Dogecoin pyramid scheme

Source: Reuters

NEW YORK, June 16 (Reuters) - Elon Musk was sued for $258 billion on Thursday by a Dogecoin investor who accused him of running a pyramid scheme to support the cryptocurrency.

In a complaint filed in federal court in Manhattan, plaintiff Keith Johnson accused Musk, electric car company Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) and space tourism company SpaceX of racketeering for touting Dogecoin and driving up its price, only to then let the price tumble.

Musk is CEO of both Tesla and SpaceX.

"Defendants were aware since 2019 that Dogecoin had no value yet promoted Dogecoin to profit from its trading," the complaint said. "Musk used his pedestal as World's Richest man to operate and manipulate the Dogecoin Pyramid Scheme for profit, exposure and amusement."

The complaint also aggregates comments from Warren Buffett, Bill Gates and others questioning the value of cryptocurrency.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/elon-musk-sued-258-billion-over-alleged-dogecoin-pyramid-scheme-2022-06-16/?taid=62ab826183c4c60001050995&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter&utm_source=reddit



LOL! Big oopsie there Muskrat.
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Elon Musk sued for $258 billion over alleged Dogecoin pyramid scheme (Original Post) icymist Jun 2022 OP
This should be interesting...... turbinetree Jun 2022 #1
Ya know he's gonna blame Democrats . ... Lovie777 Jun 2022 #2
Complex case to prove bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #3
Only underscores that brilliance in one area does not preclude lacking common sense. hlthe2b Jun 2022 #4
I haven't seen any sign of his brilliance. Just hucksterism and cons. SharonAnn Jun 2022 #6
Sounds like someone familiar? Prof. Toru Tanaka Jun 2022 #8
I think you have to give him his due on SpaceX hlthe2b Jun 2022 #9
Autistics span the range of so-called IQs. He does have a certain talent though... NullTuples Jun 2022 #14
Yep, cons like Paypal, Tesla, SpaceX, Boring Company OnlinePoker Jun 2022 #17
He was born rich and used his money and hucksterism to get even richer. SunSeeker Jun 2022 #22
That's' not a drop in the bucket for anyone. Wow! That's a lot of money! C Moon Jun 2022 #5
Gee... Dogecoin was a scam this whole time? Saw it coming! Initech Jun 2022 #7
Fun stuff, but this would be a very tough case to win unblock Jun 2022 #10
crypto coins cost more to make than they are worth. NullTuples Jun 2022 #16
Please Karma Make MuskRAT PAY! Cha Jun 2022 #11
MUSK legal to vote in Texas? - voted QAnon to flip Dem seat & calls for a Red Wave Cha Jun 2022 #12
Yes, Musk is a scumbag who manipulated the crypto market with his tweets, but... LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #13
Today is full of good news. sarcasmo Jun 2022 #15
Maximum market value of Dogecoin all-time was $85.15 Billion on 4 May 2021 OnlinePoker Jun 2022 #18
Musk is always going to be someone Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #19
What's even nuttier ymetca Jun 2022 #20
Silly lawsuit. former9thward Jun 2022 #21
More like Dodgy coin. Crowman2009 Jun 2022 #23

bucolic_frolic

(43,062 posts)
3. Complex case to prove
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:17 PM
Jun 2022

and probably rely on experts of markets, finance, law. My guess is this is not going anywhere.

hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
4. Only underscores that brilliance in one area does not preclude lacking common sense.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:22 PM
Jun 2022

And we've seen his lacking in the latter for months now.

hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
9. I think you have to give him his due on SpaceX
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 09:47 PM
Jun 2022

He is pretty clearly autistic so his intelligence is pretty unique to him and perhaps not what all come to expect, but he is intelligent in at least in some areas.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
14. Autistics span the range of so-called IQs. He does have a certain talent though...
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 10:35 PM
Jun 2022

...that is usually learned by people of a certain level and background of privilege. Something to do with the ability to continually convince investors to pump more money into his schemes which he then uses to keep prior schemes afloat. And always offer a new, bright shiny object rather than focus on the objective performance of anything he's promised.

SunSeeker

(51,516 posts)
22. He was born rich and used his money and hucksterism to get even richer.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:48 AM
Jun 2022

He bought most his companies. Paypal and Tesla were other people's ideas that he invested in.

The Boring Company is a wasteful vanity project that only exists because of Musk's hucksterism.

A number of civil engineering experts and tunneling industry veterans have questioned whether Musk can render tunnels more quickly and cheaply than competitors. A tunneling industry publication, Tunnelling Journal, has dismissed the company as a “vanity project” and inconsistent in its promised offerings.[22] The much-hyped tunnel project constructed at the convention center in Las Vegas turned out to be a single-lane underground roadway less than a mile long, driven by conventional Tesla automobiles, constructed at a total cost of $48 million. Musk's planned tunnels have also been criticized for lacking such safety features as emergency exit corridors, ventilation systems, or fire suppression. In addition, the tunnels themselves are projected to be only one lane wide, making it impossible for vehicles to pass one another in the event of collision, mechanical failure, or other traffic obstruction, and instead would shut the entire tunnel down.[115][116]

Critics have argued that the low capacity of The Boring Company's projects make them inefficient and less equitable than existing public transit solutions, with only a fraction of the capacity of a conventional rapid-transit subway.[117][118][119][120] Musk has been criticized for his comments in 2017 disparaging public transit.[121]

James Moore, director of transportation engineering at the University of Southern California, said that "there are cheaper ways to provide better transportation for large numbers of people", such as managing traffic with tolls.[120] Public transit consultant Jarrett Walker called the Boring Company "wildly hyped", and criticized how the company "dazzled city governments and investors with visions of an efficient subway where you never have to get out of your car, turns out to be a paved road tunnel."[119]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boring_Company

unblock

(52,126 posts)
10. Fun stuff, but this would be a very tough case to win
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 10:08 PM
Jun 2022

Notwithstanding some controversy, I think it's very difficult to prove (even merely to a preponderance of evidence) that cryptocurrencies are inherently worthless, and that musk knew or should have known this.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
16. crypto coins cost more to make than they are worth.
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 10:38 PM
Jun 2022

And that was at their peak, before real world costs like power generation fuels spiked.

One could argue that any worthless object that is agreed upon to have value, has value; that's the basis of fiat currency after all. But there's a slight difference between a managed national currency and one that is inherently structured to favor anyone who buys in earlier, assuming continual growth.

LudwigPastorius

(9,110 posts)
13. Yes, Musk is a scumbag who manipulated the crypto market with his tweets, but...
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 10:35 PM
Jun 2022

I would be surprised if that was illegal. At least, not yet.

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
18. Maximum market value of Dogecoin all-time was $85.15 Billion on 4 May 2021
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 11:11 PM
Jun 2022

Market Cap today $7.46 Billion. All crypto's are in the toilet. Bitcoin, the granddaddy of them all has a market cap of 30% of its maximum from last November. These were sucker bets from the beginning. Great if you buy low/sell high, but most people who gambled on these have watched their profits tank in a very short period.

Mr.Bill

(24,244 posts)
19. Musk is always going to be someone
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 11:20 PM
Jun 2022

who wants to be in the spotlight but can't stay out of trouble. And he's willing to do the latter to attain the former.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
20. What's even nuttier
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 11:38 PM
Jun 2022

is some cadre of bored billionaires is gonna buy up the stuff on the cheap then lather, rinse repeat the whole process.

Whatever we pretend to have, it barely resembles any kind of financial system anymore.

People starve while billionaires play money games.

And governments don't appear to have any kind of means to rein it in, for fear the whole mess will collapse again.

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