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pnwmom

(110,227 posts)
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 03:43 PM Jun 2022

Police didn't try to open doors to classrooms with Uvalde shooter inside: Source

Source: ABC7ny

UVALDE, Texas -- In a new twist in the Uvalde elementary school mass shooting, a source has confirmed to ABC News that as police waited for more than an hour in a hallway outside the classrooms where a gunman killed 19 students and two teachers, none of the officers checked to see if the doors to the classrooms were locked.

The new development in the investigation of the shooting came just days after Chief Pete Arredondo of the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District Police, the incident commander during the May 24 mass shooting at Robb Elementary School, defended his actions and claimed the delay in breaching connecting classrooms 111 and 112, where the gunman was holed up was because he was waiting for a janitor to get the key to the door.

But surveillance footage showed that neither Arredondo nor any other officers taking cover in the hallway outside the classrooms ever attempted to open the door before receiving the keys to the two connecting classrooms. That means there were 77 minutes between when the alleged 18-year-old gunman entered the school through an unlocked door and when police fatally shot him, a source with knowledge of the investigation told ABC News.


Read more: https://abc7ny.com/texas-school-shooting-uvalde-police-classroom-doors-shooter/11980828/



Also, on June 6 there was a story reporting that another teacher in Rm 111 (one of the pair of adjoining rooms) had previously complained that the locks on the classroom door didn't work.

https://abc7.com/uvalde-teacher-police-response-arnulfo-reyes-texas-school-shooting/11935283/

Robb Elementary School prepared for active shooter events, conducting drills as recently as a few weeks before the mass shooting. But Reyes described failures in protocol at nearly every step of the security process on May 24 -- missteps in protocol and execution that he says cost lives.

"There was no announcement. I did not receive any messages on my phone -- sometimes we do get a Raptor system," he said, referring to the school district's emergency alert program, "but I didn't get anything, and I didn't hear anything."

Reyes also described complaints he said he had made about his door, which is meant to remain shut and locked while class is in session. At prior security checks, Reyes said he noticed that his door would not latch -- an issue he said he raised with the school's principal.

"When that would happen, I would tell my principal, 'Hey, I'm going to get in trouble again, they're going to come and tell you that I left my door unlocked, which I didn't,'" he said. "But the latch was stuck. So, it was just an easy fix."
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Police didn't try to open doors to classrooms with Uvalde shooter inside: Source (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2022 OP
I didn't think possible, but their story keeps getting worse and worse Torchlight Jun 2022 #1
Candid Photo of Uvalde Police Officer: Lil Liberal Laura Jun 2022 #2
No courage, no brains, no heart... ret5hd Jun 2022 #7
Fitting for Cowardly Liars! calimary Jun 2022 #10
All local police should be given a case of rifles for their trunk so pwb Jun 2022 #3
They should have called in all the kids' moms instead of the cops. thesquanderer Jun 2022 #4
And most moms I know would risk their lives to rescue their kid from likely mortal danger. calimary Jun 2022 #11
+ 1 Truth appalachiablue Jun 2022 #20
When blue lives matter more than all lives IronLionZion Jun 2022 #5
That department needs to be dissolved PJMcK Jun 2022 #6
Infuriating.... LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #8
So what the hell good would a school with one door do? Initech Jun 2022 #9
Then moving forward purr-rat beauty Jun 2022 #12
+1 ck4829 Aug 2022 #24
Didn't even try the door. Lasher Jun 2022 #13
I'm waiting for someone to play the race card. Legitimately. Aussie105 Jun 2022 #14
I think I read that a cop did have a child in another classroom -- pnwmom Jun 2022 #15
One cop had a kid who died. One cop lost his wife. LeftInTX Jun 2022 #16
I stand corrected. Aussie105 Jun 2022 #17
The cop's wife called her husband begging for help LeftInTX Jun 2022 #19
Other cops disarmed him and dragged him away. Lasher Jun 2022 #22
Report: Police in Uvalde had rifles earlier than known Eugene Jun 2022 #18
The door to the classroom containing the gunman could not be locked from inside. Lasher Jun 2022 #21
Kick ck4829 Jun 2022 #23

Torchlight

(6,592 posts)
1. I didn't think possible, but their story keeps getting worse and worse
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 03:47 PM
Jun 2022

It started off pretty bad initially, but every time they try to do damage control, they just keep digging in deep and deeper.

ret5hd

(22,389 posts)
7. No courage, no brains, no heart...
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 05:28 PM
Jun 2022

A brave woman leading the charge…

Heck, I think a remake is in the offing…”The Piss Yellow Road”

pwb

(12,571 posts)
3. All local police should be given a case of rifles for their trunk so
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 03:51 PM
Jun 2022

when there is a school shooting they could hand them out to the parents. The guy would be dead in minutes then.

thesquanderer

(12,932 posts)
4. They should have called in all the kids' moms instead of the cops.
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 03:52 PM
Jun 2022

Simply... the moms care a whole lot more about the outcome than the cops do.

calimary

(89,434 posts)
11. And most moms I know would risk their lives to rescue their kid from likely mortal danger.
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 05:51 PM
Jun 2022

I'd have counted myself among them when mine were still young enough to be living at home and not driving yet.

IronLionZion

(51,040 posts)
5. When blue lives matter more than all lives
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 04:31 PM
Jun 2022

I thought cops had bulletproof vests and military style body armor

PJMcK

(24,929 posts)
6. That department needs to be dissolved
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 05:01 PM
Jun 2022

Then the town can hire professionals.

These cops were cowardly hacks.

Initech

(108,164 posts)
9. So what the hell good would a school with one door do?
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 05:47 PM
Jun 2022

All it would do is trap people further. Explain that one, gun nuts.

purr-rat beauty

(1,137 posts)
12. Then moving forward
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 07:57 PM
Jun 2022

No student, teacher, administrator, custodian, or parent should open a door to schools next school year until something is done to kerp everyone safe.

Shit

Let's all go on strike

Aussie105

(7,743 posts)
14. I'm waiting for someone to play the race card. Legitimately.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 02:06 AM
Jun 2022

White cops, Latino school, Latino kids?

Notice none of the cops had kids at that school? (From what I read.)

Besides, Bad Man with a Loud Gun in there. Scary! Not worth the risk, perhaps?

Yes, I might be cynical. Then again . . .

pnwmom

(110,227 posts)
15. I think I read that a cop did have a child in another classroom --
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 02:27 AM
Jun 2022

and the cop helped his or her kid get out.

Eugene

(66,976 posts)
18. Report: Police in Uvalde had rifles earlier than known
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 06:36 AM
Jun 2022

Source: Associated Press

Report: Police in Uvalde had rifles earlier than known

June 21, 2022

UVALDE, Texas (AP) — Multiple police officers armed with rifles and at least one ballistic shield stood and waited in a school hallway for nearly an hour while a gunman carried out a massacre of 19 elementary students and two teachers, according to a Monday news report that marks the latest embarrassing revelation about the failure of law enforcement to thwart the attack.

The officers with heavier firepower and tactical equipment were there within 19 minutes of the gunman arriving on campus — earlier than previously known, according to documents reviewed by the Austin American-Statesman and KVUE-TV.

The outlets’ report, which did not indicate the source of the documents, nevertheless intensifies the anguish and questions over why police didn’t act sooner to stop the May 24 slaughter in the Robb Elementary School classroom.

The information is to be presented to a public Texas Senate hearing in Austin on Tuesday. Investigators say the latest information indicates officers had more than enough firepower and protection to take down the gunman long before they finally did, the outlets reported.

-snip-

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/politics-texas-law-enforcement-agencies-shootings-police-601af4d0115ffd6d7b95ff9d1d82f37a

Lasher

(29,485 posts)
21. The door to the classroom containing the gunman could not be locked from inside.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 07:21 PM
Jun 2022

Meaning it was likely unlocked for the duration of the shooting. But nobody even tried to open the door.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/key-takeaways-texas-senates-hearing-uvalde-shooting/story?id=85541383

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