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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 12:32 PM Jun 2022

Head of State Police calls response to Uvalde shooting an "abject failure"

Source: NY Times

AUSTIN, Texas -- The head of the Texas State Police offered a pointed and emphatic rebuke of the police response to a shooting last month at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, calling it "an abject failure" that ran counter to decades of training.

In his comments before a special State Senate committee in Austin, Steven McCraw, the director of the Department of Public Safety, said that just minutes after a gunman began shooting children inside a pair of connected classrooms on May 24, the police at the scene had enough firepower and protective equipment to storm the classroom.

But, he said, the on-scene commander "decided to put the lives of officers ahead of the lives of children." Mr. McCraw, speaking forcefully, said the same commander had delayed confronting the gunman because he "waited for a key that was never needed."

Mr. McCraw said that the doors to the classrooms could be locked only from the outside. “There’s no way to lock the door from the inside. And there’s no way for the subject to lock the door from the inside,” he said, adding that a teacher had made a request for the locks to be fixed, believing they were broken, before the shooting.



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Head of State Police calls response to Uvalde shooting an "abject failure" (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2022 OP
No shit. irisblue Jun 2022 #1
And he's officially acknowledging that the doors weren't even lockable from the inside. nt pnwmom Jun 2022 #2
Bit more... irisblue Jun 2022 #4
Thank You for Posting & Sharing With Us...K and R.. Outstanding Post & Link to NYT no text Stuart G Jun 2022 #3
It wasn't an abject failure. grumpyduck Jun 2022 #5
Indeed ck4829 Aug 2022 #14
NBC: Police 'put the lives of officers before the lives of children' during Uvalde shooting, Texas riversedge Jun 2022 #6
What I can't get over is how heckles65 Jun 2022 #7
Locks? All that gun power and they couldn't destroy the lock? LuckyLib Jun 2022 #8
They weren't locked out. There was no way to lock the door from inside the classroom. pnwmom Jun 2022 #10
Crazy ck4829 Aug 2022 #15
So what is going to be done to prevent it in the future? n/t MarcA Jun 2022 #9
Nothing. Nothing at all. hatrack Jun 2022 #11
Good question ck4829 Jul 2022 #13
Kick ck4829 Jun 2022 #12

irisblue

(32,974 posts)
1. No shit.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 12:33 PM
Jun 2022

From the cited article..."Steven McCraw, the director of the Department of Public Safety, said that just minutes after a gunman began shooting children inside a pair of connected classrooms on May 24, the police at the scene had enough firepower and protective equipment to storm the classroom.

But, he said, the on-scene commander “decided to put the lives of officers ahead of the lives of children.” Mr. McCraw, speaking forcefully, said the same commander had delayed confronting the gunman because he “waited for a key that was never needed.”

irisblue

(32,974 posts)
4. Bit more...
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 12:41 PM
Jun 2022

(Steven McCraw, the director of the Department of Public Safety,)
..."He said that the on-scene commander was the chief of the school district police department, Pete Arredondo, who was the highest-ranking person at the scene. The chief has said he did not consider himself in charge.
“If you’re going to issue commands, if you’re going to direct action,” Mr. McCraw said, “you’re the on-scene commander.”

He just called out Arredondo.

riversedge

(70,215 posts)
6. NBC: Police 'put the lives of officers before the lives of children' during Uvalde shooting, Texas
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 01:35 PM
Jun 2022





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Police 'put the lives of officers before the lives of children' during Uvalde shooting, Texas official says
State Department of Public Safety Director Steve McCraw on Tuesday called the police response to the Robb Elementary School massacre an "abject failure."


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-put-lives-officers-lives-children-uvalde-shooting-state-police-rcna33906




June 21, 2022, 10:17 AM CDT / Updated June 21, 2022, 11:36 AM CDT
By David K. Li

The law enforcement response to the Uvalde school shooting was an "abject failure" with police lives prioritized over those of children, a top Texas official said Tuesday.

The blunt assessment by Steve McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, was made at a state Senate committee hearing investigating last month's mass killing.

"We do know this, there's compelling evidence that the law enforcement response to the attack at Robb Elementary was an abject failure and antithetical to everything we've learned over the last two decades since the Columbine massacre," he told lawmakers.
Officers had rifles 19 minutes after Uvalde shooting started: report
June 21, 202202:25

"The only thing stopping a hallway of dedicated officers from (entering rooms) 111 and 112 was the on-scene commander who decided to place the lives of officers before the lives of children. The officers have weapons, the children had none." ...........................................



Image: Robb Elementary School Uvalde
People look at a memorial for the mass shooting victims at Robb Elementary School on May 26, 2022. in Uvalde, Texas.Liz Moskowitz for NBC News

heckles65

(549 posts)
7. What I can't get over is how
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jun 2022

this was the NRA/gun owner Dream Scenario. Lots of guns. Lots of body armor. Lots of testosterone. And it's TEXAS, by God. Not a wussy defund-the-police liberal in sight. According to the Hollywood action movies Texas gun laws appear to be based on, within seconds the Good Guy In Charge should have yelled, "It's a go, take him out!" Blaze of gunfire, and the perp dies like a cornered rat.

Instead nothing, for almost an hour.

I mean as awful as it sounds, I'm finding this humorously ironic.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
8. Locks? All that gun power and they couldn't destroy the lock?
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 02:03 PM
Jun 2022

Tapping their feet waiting for a key?

All that macho power and nobody could figure it out?

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
10. They weren't locked out. There was no way to lock the door from inside the classroom.
Tue Jun 21, 2022, 02:29 PM
Jun 2022

So they didn't need to do anything more macho than turn the door knob.

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