Senate passes most sweeping gun bill in decades, setting up House vote
Source: cnbc
The Senate on Thursday night passed the most sweeping gun bill in decades designed to prevent gun violence, a major victory for advocates and a rare defeat for the National Rifle Association.
The vote was 65 to 33, with all 50 Democratic members and 15 Republicans, including Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, voting to send the bill to the House.
Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/23/senate-gun-violence-prevention-bill-clears-key-test-vote-set-for-passage-this-week.html
ultralite001
(894 posts)That is all...
doc03
(35,325 posts)nothing. It takes the gun issue away from Democrats in the mid-term elections.
Like what I heard on MJ this morning it is one and done as far as gun safety goes.
My opinion Democrats were played.
BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)It's not that "Democrats" (in quotes) were "played", it's that Democrats don't have 60 votes in the Senate to advance legislation nor do they have 51 willing to change the cloture rule. And even if they did have 51 members (with the 2 indies), they don't have a unanimous 51 willing to go further when it comes to guns thanks to the Democratic Senators from rural states like Tester and of course Manchin.
Initech
(100,063 posts)They're an ancient relic. A product of the damn Southern Strategy, which, IMO, was the single biggest mistake we made in this country's recent history. We should have *NEVER* coddled these lunatics. It's way past time for them to be taken down a few pegs.
J_William_Ryan
(1,753 posts)The provisions of which will likely be struck down in light of Thursdays Supreme Court ruling.
This legislation will end up as less than nothing.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)It is definitely a step forward.
BumRushDaShow
(128,844 posts)From what I understand, the "red flag" provisions are NOT "mandatory". The bill would "encourage" states (and would fund them) to enact "red flag" laws in their states. The fact that this even needed to be asked of them tells you all you need to know about the chances of that ever happening in some of the most extremist RW loon states.
By Emily Cochrane and Annie Karni
Published June 21, 2022 Updated June 23, 2022
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The 80-page bill, called the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, would enhance background checks, giving authorities up to 10 business days to review the juvenile and mental health records of gun purchasers younger than 21, and direct millions toward helping states implement so-called red-flag laws, which allow authorities to temporarily confiscate guns from people deemed dangerous, as well as other intervention programs.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/21/us/politics/senate-gun-safety-bill.html
And so which states had them before this? Below as of 2019 -
By Timothy Williams
Aug. 6, 2019
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What are red flag laws?
They are state laws that authorize courts to issue a special type of protection order, allowing the police to temporarily confiscate firearms from people who are deemed by a judge to be a danger to themselves or to others. Often, the request for the order will come from relatives or friends concerned about a loved one who owns one or more guns and has expressed suicidal thoughts or discussed shooting people. The authorities may also request an order.
How long the guns are taken away under these extreme risk protection orders depends on the circumstances, and can usually be extended only after another court hearing. The orders also bar the person they cover from purchasing guns.
How many states have one now?
At least 17 states now have approved some version of a red flag law, including Florida, New York, Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana and California. Before the 2018 mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., only five states had such laws. Californias law is among the most elaborate. It was the first to permit family members to petition the courts directly for orders to confiscate weapons from relatives. Earlier laws in Connecticut and other states generally required the public to make reports to prosecutors or the police, who would decide whether to petition the courts.
Californias law was enacted after a gunman killed six people and wounded 14 others in 2014 near the campus of the University of California, Santa Barbara. New Yorks is one of the most recent to be adopted. It allows teachers as well as family members and others to petition the courts for protective orders. (New York already had a law denying gun permits to people reported by mental health professionals to be a danger to themselves or others.) Nevada and Hawaii have also approved red flag laws this year.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/06/us/red-flag-laws.html
doc03
(35,325 posts)by closing the boyfriend loophole? Enhanced back ground checks for people under 18, that may have worked in Uvalde. What about all the others that already have an AR15 and 30 round mahazines at home? It may be a small step but it takes the heat off Republicans this fall. The SCOTUS decision yesterday will probably take the teeth out of it anyway.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)I doubt the Supreme Court will have grounds to overturn the law. We'll see.
doc03
(35,325 posts)It takes the gun issue out of the mid terms.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)HUAJIAO
(2,383 posts)Who writes this garbage?
867-5309.
(1,189 posts)maxsolomon
(33,310 posts)"Only" is more accurate. IIRC, the AWB was the last one.
Still, it's a fucking miracle.
Cha
(297,154 posts)myohmy2
(3,162 posts)...we lose Roe and gain a worthless gun law and we control the House, Senate and Presidency...be happy
...I'm wondering if the shoe was on the other foot would the turtle and the fascists have a problem?
...nah...